Lap times in GP2, done with joystick

Could you send your laptimes done with a joystick as a followup to this message! I'd like to compare my efforts with yours, and I'd like to know how fast I can go! (I haven't found a HOF with control method mentioned!). Joonas

So far I have managed the following times using a m'soft sidewinder Pacific gp - 1.13.822 Imola gp - 1.23.742 Monaco gp - 1.22.050 Barcelona gp - 1.26.593 Montreal gp - 1.24.019 These were all in practise any circuit and not race conditions. I have had the game 2 weeks now and am still learning. Good luck --

> Could you send your laptimes done with a joystick as a followup to >this message! I'd like to compare my efforts with yours, and I'd like to >know how fast I can go! (I haven't found a HOF with control method >mentioned!). > Joonas Hi, Interlagos: 1.14.980 with Gravis Analog Pro and no steering help; manual shifting. Bye Sven

mid 1:26 at monza with no steering help. I need alot more practice.

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>> Could you send your laptimes done with a joystick as a followup to >> this message! I'd like to compare my efforts with yours, and I'd like to >> know how fast I can go! (I haven't found a HOF with control method >> mentioned!). >> Joonas >So far I have managed the following times using a m'soft sidewinder >Pacific gp - 1.13.822 >Imola gp - 1.23.742 >Monaco gp - 1.22.050 >Barcelona gp - 1.26.593 >Montreal gp - 1.24.019 >These were all in practise any circuit and not race conditions. I have >had the game 2 weeks now and am still learning. Good luck

I've managed: Pacific 1.10.8xx Monaco 1.21.043 Monza 1.23.2xx Imola 1.23.xxx This is with a Gravis Analog Pro, with all driving aids off, no steering help, but opposite lock help enabled. _____________________________________________________________________ _______ _ _ / \ \ / | \ / Twente University | ___ \ / The Netherlands | | \ / \ / \ ________/ertjan \_/ \_/esteneng _____________________________________________________________________

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>> Could you send your laptimes done with a joystick as a followup to >> this message! I'd like to compare my efforts with yours, and I'd like to >> know how fast I can go! (I haven't found a HOF with control method >> mentioned!). >> Joonas >mid 1:26 at monza with no steering help. I need alot more practice.

I scraped a 1:23.562 at Monza last week, but I haven't been bold enough to turn steering help off yet. Hot (lukewarm?) lap file available on request. Pete ----

Personally I run with a wheel, but Achim Trensz over on CompuServe is the hottest joystick runner I've seen. A 1:19.7 at Imola, and a 1:14.4xx at Interlagos (yes, really!) are his latest gems. Pretty impressive, and that's without steering help... Cheers! John _________________________________ __ _____| |_____ __ ________| |__| :| John Wallace | |__| |________ \ :| |::| :| Team WW Racing TSW | |::| | / > :| |::| :|_________________________________| |::| | < / :|__|::|____/ * Sim Racing News * \____|::|__| \ /______:/ \::/ http://sneezy.dcn.ed.ac.uk/simnews/index.htm \::/ \._____\ http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~harmon/simnews

> > Could you send your laptimes done with a joystick as a > mid 1:26 at monza with no steering help. I need alot more practice. I found up that the setup of your car, more than practice alone, is what really matters (of course I might be wrong but this is my impression). I use no help whatsoever and a joystick, and was around 1:30 in Monza. I then started to change the advanced (1) set up and I immediately managed 1:27. Touching the packers (advanced setup 2) I went down to high 1:25 in my 2nd lap out of the pits with the new setup ... now I need to optimize those packers and to understand what all the others advanced options do, the manual is not great help I think ;) Bye, Luca

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> >Pacific 1.10.8xx > >Monaco 1.21.043 > >Monza 1.23.2xx > >Imola 1.23.xxx > Personally I run with a wheel, but Achim Trensz over on CompuServe is > the hottest joystick runner I've seen. A 1:19.7 at Imola, and a 1:14.4xx > at Interlagos (yes, really!) are his latest gems. Pretty impressive, and > that's without steering help...

Plus my 1:16.284 at Monaco ... :-) ... no helps ... -- Henrikki (Hena) Hakkanen Tel. +358-(9)0-345 5538 ------- The best way to accelerate a Mac is 9.81 m/s2 -------- -------------------------------------------------------------- Disclaimer: Opinions expressed here are mine and does not necessarily reflect those of my employer!

These lap times were all set with a CH Flighstick Pro joystick and no help options at all. Interlagos 1m17.260 Aida 1m11.807 Imola 1m23.649 Monaco 1m20.001 Montreal 1m23.547 Hockenheim 1m45.070 Monza 1m24.4?? Estoril 1m21.682 Adelaide 1m15.289 As for Achim Trensz`s 1m14.4 at Interlagos, I think I`ll just crawl into a corner and cry ;-) Mark _________________________________ "..every lap I think `Oh bollocks! This is dreadful..`" Damon Hill __________________________________

>As for Achim Trensz`s 1m14.4 at Interlagos, I think I`ll just crawl >into a corner and cry ;-) Join the club! BTW, he's down to a 1:14.080 now...... Cheers, Richard

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> >So far I have managed the following times using a m'soft sidewinder > >Pacific gp - 1.13.822 > >Imola gp - 1.23.742 > >Monaco gp - 1.22.050 > >Barcelona gp - 1.26.593 > >Montreal gp - 1.24.019 > >These were all in practise any circuit and not race conditions. I > >have had the game 2 weeks now and am still learning. Good luck > I've managed: > Pacific 1.10.8xx > Monaco 1.21.043 > Monza 1.23.2xx > Imola 1.23.xxx > This is with a Gravis Analog Pro, with all driving aids off, > no steering help, but opposite lock help enabled.

Well these times may be great and all that but it doesn't really say much because the car you drive makes a big difference. A Williams is definitely faster than a Minardi - you don't have to be a rocket scientist to see that in real life, but it's also true in GP2. In a Minardi, I've managed to get the following times during qualifying... Monza 1.24.8 Belgium 1.56.7 With a joystick pad, automatic gear change and auto throttle... that's it. Regards, DP.

Hi Drusilla, Sorry to disappoint you, but it's not true in GP2 - a human driver always gets a car that performs like a Williams, regardless of whether it is called a Williams, Ferrari or Minardi. Cheers, Richard

I personnaly think that the car you drive have always Williams performance but other cars are more prone to mechanical problems. I was using a Williams a first and almost never got mechanical failure. I switched to a Simtek now I get loads of mechanical failure (transmission, brake problems, oil leak,...). If the performance are better with a Williams I should get much better than my actual times in practice: Monza : 1:21:221 Montreal: 1:20.215 Monaco : 1:16.982 I tried back with the Williams, with comparable time... I use wheel+pedal and no aids or driving help. Claude

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> > >So far I have managed the following times using a m'soft sidewinder > > >Pacific gp - 1.13.822 > > >Imola gp - 1.23.742 > > >Monaco gp - 1.22.050 > > >Barcelona gp - 1.26.593 > > >Montreal gp - 1.24.019 > > >These were all in practise any circuit and not race conditions. I > > >have had the game 2 weeks now and am still learning. Good luck > > I've managed: > > Pacific 1.10.8xx > > Monaco 1.21.043 > > Monza 1.23.2xx > > Imola 1.23.xxx > > This is with a Gravis Analog Pro, with all driving aids off, > > no steering help, but opposite lock help enabled. > Well these times may be great and all that but it doesn't > really say much because the car you drive makes a big difference. > A Williams is definitely faster than a Minardi - you don't have to > be a rocket scientist to see that in real life, but it's also true > in GP2.

Errr ... wrong! All the cars perform the same under human control in GP2, just like they did in GP1 which, IMO, sucks. Pacific has the same straight line speed as does Williams ... -- Henrikki (Hena) Hakkanen Tel. +358-(9)0-345 5538 ------- The best way to accelerate a Mac is 9.81 m/s2 -------- -------------------------------------------------------------- Disclaimer: Opinions expressed here are mine and does not necessarily reflect those of my employer!

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> Hi Drusilla, > >Well these times may be great and all that but it doesn't > >really say much because the car you drive makes a big difference. > >A Williams is definitely faster than a Minardi - you don't have to > >be a rocket scientist to see that in real life, but it's also true > >in GP2. > Sorry to disappoint you, but it's not true in GP2 - a human driver > always gets a car that performs like a Williams, regardless of whether > it is called a Williams, Ferrari or Minardi.

BOO!! This is _very_ unfortunate. It is good from a 'selfish' point of view (after all you are competitive in any team's car) but it doesn't reflect actual circumstances, even with the 1994 opposition spread put into effect. It would be better if you raced against cars of similar speed (e.g. Minardis versus Simteks) rather than the same drivers (Hill, Coulthard, Schu) all the time. It defeats the whole purpose of being able to choose different cars from different teams... do I see Microprose taking a shortcut here? Oh well. Maybe they'll come up with a patch to fix this. I really think they should... Regards, DP.

ccmailbr.mitel.com> writes It's just your luck. I've driven a Pacific in hundreds of practice and hotlap sessions, and probably 10-20 full races and I've NEVER had a failure of any kind :( They're all switched on, but my car would make Frank Williams jealous! _________________________________ __ _____| |_____ __ ________| |__| :| John Wallace | |__| |________ \ :| |::| :| Team WW Racing TSW | |::| | / > :| |::| :|_________________________________| |::| | < / :|__|::|____/ * Sim Racing News * \____|::|__| \ /______:/ \::/ http://sneezy.dcn.ed.ac.uk/simnews/index.htm \::/ \._____\ http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~harmon/simnews

I have been practising on Barcelona a lot and have gotten down to the 1:23's with all aids off, what kind of times are other people getting, I haven't had the game too long so Barcelona is the only track I have a good setup for.

> I have been practising on Barcelona a lot and have gotten down to > the 1:23's with all aids off, what kind of times are other > people getting, I haven't had the game too long so Barcelona is > the only track I have a good setup for. Become a member and show your stuff. http:///www.ivga.com