Watching Belgian qualifying this afternoon, Villeneuve on pole, and Murray
Walker reveals that Jacques has learnt the circuit on a computer game! GP2
or GP1? wonder what setup he uses, and what his fastest time is. Bet Geoff
Crammond is pleased!
On Sat, 24 Aug 1996 11:52:32 GMT, "Alan Head"
>Watching Belgian qualifying this afternoon, Villeneuve on pole, and Murray
>Walker reveals that Jacques has learnt the circuit on a computer game! GP2
>or GP1? wonder what setup he uses, and what his fastest time is. Bet Geoff
>Crammond is pleased!
Not to***in the Cheerios, but Williams has their own sim, and it
looks a helluva lot better than, say, my desk. They get to use old
cars, which must give them a bit of an advantage as far as offering a
realistic feel.
Now imagine Patrick Head building his own PC-compatible steering
wheel....mmmm.....velocity.....
>Watching Belgian qualifying this afternoon, Villeneuve on pole, and Murray
>Walker reveals that Jacques has learnt the circuit on a computer game! GP2
>or GP1? wonder what setup he uses, and what his fastest time is. Bet Geoff
>Crammond is pleased!
I caught this too ... it was music to my ears, as last week I posted a note
(subject: "Villeneuve: A quicker learner?") in which I specualated that
Mr Villeneuve was using a sim t(at last?) which would explain his q
quick mastery of the Hungaroring. (One reply said that it was only his getting hiss
own way with car setup, but that wasn't my point!)
So ... vindication for speculation? I am right so pitifully seldom.....
Best wishes,
David.
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David J. Reimer, Regent's Park COllege, Oxford OX1 2LB
: >Watching Belgian qualifying this afternoon, Villeneuve on pole, and Murray
: >Walker reveals that Jacques has learnt the circuit on a computer game! GP2
: >or GP1? wonder what setup he uses, and what his fastest time is. Bet Geoff
: >Crammond is pleased!
: >
: I caught this too ... it was music to my ears, as last week I posted a note
: (subject: "Villeneuve: A quicker learner?") in which I specualated that
: Mr Villeneuve was using a sim t(at last?) which would explain his q
: quick mastery of the Hungaroring. (One reply said that it was only his getting hiss
: own way with car setup, but that wasn't my point!)
: So ... vindication for speculation? I am right so pitifully seldom.....
I thought the same when he was in Indycar. One of the problems in
Papyrus Indycar sim (original) is the stupidity of the drivers coming
from behind and ramming your car at the running starts. The best way to
avoid it and to get off to consistent good starts (from the pole of
course) is to hold the field up with a very, very slow pace, then
accelerating just before the green. Jacques used the same tactic
whenever he was on the pole in Indycars.
Lloyd
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> : >Watching Belgian qualifying this afternoon, Villeneuve on pole, and Murray > : >Walker reveals that Jacques has learnt the circuit on a computer game! GP2 > : >or GP1? wonder what setup he uses, and what his fastest time is. Bet Geoff > : >Crammond is pleased! > : > > : I caught this too ... it was music to my ears, as last week I posted a note > : (subject: "Villeneuve: A quicker learner?") in which I specualated that > : Mr Villeneuve was using a sim t(at last?) which would explain his q > : quick mastery of the Hungaroring. (One reply said that it was only his getting hiss > : own way with car setup, but that wasn't my point!) > : So ... vindication for speculation? I am right so pitifully seldom.....On Sat, 24 Aug 1996, Alan Head =E9crivait:
Jacques said to a journalist it was the new Grand Prix game, so it must=20
be GP2! He used it in Hungary too.
Eric
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>On Sat, 24 Aug 1996, Alan Head =E9crivait: >> Watching Belgian qualifying this afternoon, Villeneuve on pole, and Murra= >y >> Walker reveals that Jacques has learnt the circuit on a computer game! GP= >2 >> or GP1?=20 >Jacques said to a journalist it was the new Grand Prix game, so it must=20 >be GP2! He used it in Hungary too.>Watching Belgian qualifying this afternoon, Villeneuve on pole, and Murray
>Walker reveals that Jacques has learnt the circuit on a computer game! GP2
>or GP1? wonder what setup he uses, and what his fastest time is. Bet Geoff
>Crammond is pleased!
I've just finished watching the race. The Belgium track is one of the
few GP2 tracks that I know well enough to hope for a decent result. I
was amazed at how similar the real track was to the simulated track -
I knew every corner, every gear change etc etc. My girlfriend got
really irritated with my on going commentary ("Ah, well. When I take
that corner I'm in third gear by then, which would have allowed me to
take Damon Hill blah blah blah"). It doesn't suprise me in the least
that Villeneuve is (possibly) using GP2 to learn the tracks.
I suppose that from a nationalistic point of view I should be rooting
for Hill for this season, but Villeneuve is soooo impressive, don't
you think?
Andrew
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> >On Sat, 24 Aug 1996, Alan Head =E9crivait: > >> Watching Belgian qualifying this afternoon, Villeneuve on pole, and Murra= > >y > >> Walker reveals that Jacques has learnt the circuit on a computer game! GP= > >2 > >> or GP1?=20 > >Jacques said to a journalist it was the new Grand Prix game, so it must=20 > >be GP2! He used it in Hungary too. > I can confirm you that it *WAS* GP2: I've read it this morning in an > italian newspaper. > (Now I want to see if someone still has the courage to say "GP2 is not > good, not realistic, etc...") > MarcoQuoted text (18 lines)
> >On Sat, 24 Aug 1996, Alan Head =E9crivait: > >> Watching Belgian qualifying this afternoon, Villeneuve on pole, and Murra= > >y > >> Walker reveals that Jacques has learnt the circuit on a computer game! GP= > >2 > >> or GP1?=20 > >Jacques said to a journalist it was the new Grand Prix game, so it must=20 > >be GP2! He used it in Hungary too. > I can confirm you that it *WAS* GP2: I've read it this morning in an > italian newspaper. > (Now I want to see if someone still has the courage to say "GP2 is not > good, not realistic, etc...") > MarcoQuoted text (22 lines)
> > >On Sat, 24 Aug 1996, Alan Head =E9crivait: > > >> Watching Belgian qualifying this afternoon, Villeneuve on pole, and Murra= > > >y > > >> Walker reveals that Jacques has learnt the circuit on a computer game! GP= > > >2 > > >> or GP1?=20 > > >Jacques said to a journalist it was the new Grand Prix game, so it must=20 > > >be GP2! He used it in Hungary too. > > I can confirm you that it *WAS* GP2: I've read it this morning in an > > italian newspaper. > > (Now I want to see if someone still has the courage to say "GP2 is not > > good, not realistic, etc...") > > Marco > And if he could only qualify 18th in GP2, what does that say about GP2's > AI? Geoff C. must be overjoyed. I'd bet he's doing the Macarena to > celebrate this free publicity!I believe Villeneuve said something like <<I know this might sound childish...
but I learned the track from playing a new video game>> (or something like that).
I highly doubt the "stupid" remark. You properly misread the article
and attributed inaccurate quotations to Villeneuve (or the article's author
did). In any event, it's well known that Villeneuve is a self-confessed
computer buff. During a Rothman's publicity tour in Montreal earlier this
year, the media showed Jacques surfing the internet.
jl
: : >Watching Belgian qualifying this afternoon, Villeneuve on pole, and Murray
: : >Walker reveals that Jacques has learnt the circuit on a computer game! GP2
: : >or GP1? wonder what setup he uses, and what his fastest time is. Bet Geoff
: : >Crammond is pleased!
Villeneuve said he could only manage 18th on the Grid in the Simulator
: : I caught this too ... it was music to my ears, as last week I posted a note
: : (subject: "Villeneuve: A quicker learner?") in which I specualated that
: : Mr Villeneuve was using a sim t(at last?) which would explain his q
: : quick mastery of the Hungaroring. (One reply said that it was only his getting hiss
: : own way with car setup, but that wasn't my point!)
: : So ... vindication for speculation? I am right so pitifully seldom.....
: I thought the same when he was in Indycar. One of the problems in
: Papyrus Indycar sim (original) is the stupidity of the drivers coming
: from behind and ramming your car at the running starts. The best way to
: avoid it and to get off to consistent good starts (from the pole of
: course) is to hold the field up with a very, very slow pace, then
: accelerating just before the green. Jacques used the same tactic
: whenever he was on the pole in Indycars.
: Lloyd
from the london times:
... when he arrived at the post-qualifying press conference, the
personification of grunge with his shoelaces dragging on the ground
and wearing a T-shirt covered by a denim shirt open to the waist, he
admitted sheepishly that his ability to outqualify Hill for the first
time since the opening race of the season in Melbourne owed much to
playing on a computer video game, the GP2, that recreates the contours
and curves of every grand prix circuit.
"It is going to sound childish and stupid," he said, "but I checked
out the new video game and the tracks are fairly close to the real
thing. It gives you a good idea of where you should be going. You know
that after the start-finish line you are going to get to a hairpin and
then you are going to be at Eau Rouge. I didn't get pole on the video
game, though. I was 18th."
Tom Kristiansen also took the same route to help him learn the track for
his European F3000 race (supporting the GP). He said that it helped
learn the flow of the track rather than specifics.
Personally I can understand this as my problem on tracks (simulated and
not simulated) is not knowing what is coming next, rather than having
problems on the corner I'm on at the time. If you set the car wrong up
on the exit it can lead to big problems entering the next corner.
Max
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It's a waste of time if you know what I mean...
I'm the Clown Puppet! Toot, toot, ha, ha!
Absolutely, totally agree. Can you imagine the benefit that a
program like this would have on circuits like the Old Nurburgring?
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