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> I am new to this posting articles stuff, prefer just e-mailing, but here
> goes.
> I think the new scoring for incidents on Hawaii is way out of line and
> completely miss the intent of scoring against incidents to begin with.
> The way I understand, an incident caused by someone other than you ought
> to be a penalty of some sort, but there is no way to change the result
> of the incident to protect the person not at fault.
> Example: You qualify fifth at Talladega in a 5% race (nevermind you
> shouldn't be there to begin with). The skill level for the race is 8-15
> and you are skill 10. There are 18 people in the race. So you are all
> ready for a relatively short race, can reasonably expect a top 5 or 10
> finish, and make a few point for the race. The race begins, and as you
> round turn 1 into turn 2, the person that qualified 7 decides to pass
> you attempting 3 wide in the turn on the first lap. This eager beaver
> hits you sending you in front of all the cars on the outside line, of
> which you manage to only hit two. After careening off the second car,
> you get sent into the wall where you engine is damaged. And finally, as
> you come back down toward the infield, you hit 2 more innocent drivers.
> So, in the first 20 seconds of the race, you have at least 5 incidents,
> have inadvertantly crashed 4 other cars, are unable to finish the race,
> and have witnessed some interesting expletives being transmitted over
> chat.
> If you have ever raced Talladega on-line, you know that this is an
> almost normal occurance, at least the incident part. Anyway, After being
> towed to the pits, fuming the whole way, you finish watching the race
> from the pits, only to discover that the person who caused this melee,
> ends up winning the race! You get hit, wether accident or otherwise, and
> lose -20 points for the ensuing incidents "caused" by you. Not to
> mention the -45 points you lost for not finishing the race. Meanwhile
> The cause of the ordeal collects +60 points for winning the race, less
> his 1 incident. What is wrong with this picture? I don't mean to say it
> was intentional on the other drivers part, only that it doesn't matter.
> And that is the point! There should be no incident points scored at all,
> because the vast majority of drivers out there are not intentionally
> causing accidents. For the few that do, we can save replays and send to
> H_H so they can monitor these guys. Yes, there have been times where I
> caused incidents, as just about everyone on Hawaii can honestly say, but
> why do those involved lose points because fault of mine? And I can
> honestly say I have never intentionally caused one, although you may get
> an argument from the other guy :<
> Finally, why have a system that takes away points for hitting a wall? If
> you do this regularly, your car will be damaged, and you will finish the
> race accordingly. Better, develop a scoring penalty for those races with
> damage off, something like half the points or something like that, or
> develop a "difficulty" rating for each race based upon the track, damage
> on, length, ect.
> Until Hawaii can come up with a system that reviews each and every
> incident, and levies the points accordingly, as in the example above, I
> just don't think it's a fair way to score. I would agree that incidents
> offer some deterence to reckless abandon, but that is for only the minor
> few. I sincerely believe that most enjoy a nice, clean race over one
> I am new to this posting articles stuff, prefer just e-mailing, but here
> goes.
> I think the new scoring for incidents on Hawaii is way out of line and
> completely miss the intent of scoring against incidents to begin with.
> The way I understand, an incident caused by someone other than you ought
> to be a penalty of some sort, but there is no way to change the result
> of the incident to protect the person not at fault.
> Example: You qualify fifth at Talladega in a 5% race (nevermind you
> shouldn't be there to begin with). The skill level for the race is 8-15
> and you are skill 10. There are 18 people in the race. So you are all
> ready for a relatively short race, can reasonably expect a top 5 or 10
> finish, and make a few point for the race. The race begins, and as you
> round turn 1 into turn 2, the person that qualified 7 decides to pass
> you attempting 3 wide in the turn on the first lap. This eager beaver
> hits you sending you in front of all the cars on the outside line, of
> which you manage to only hit two. After careening off the second car,
> you get sent into the wall where you engine is damaged. And finally, as
> you come back down toward the infield, you hit 2 more innocent drivers.
> So, in the first 20 seconds of the race, you have at least 5 incidents,
> have inadvertantly crashed 4 other cars, are unable to finish the race,
> and have witnessed some interesting expletives being transmitted over
> chat.
> If you have ever raced Talladega on-line, you know that this is an
> almost normal occurance, at least the incident part. Anyway, After being
> towed to the pits, fuming the whole way, you finish watching the race
> from the pits, only to discover that the person who caused this melee,
> ends up winning the race! You get hit, wether accident or otherwise, and
> lose -20 points for the ensuing incidents "caused" by you. Not to
> mention the -45 points you lost for not finishing the race. Meanwhile
> The cause of the ordeal collects +60 points for winning the race, less
> his 1 incident. What is wrong with this picture? I don't mean to say it
> was intentional on the other drivers part, only that it doesn't matter.
> And that is the point! There should be no incident points scored at all,
> because the vast majority of drivers out there are not intentionally
> causing accidents. For the few that do, we can save replays and send to
> H_H so they can monitor these guys. Yes, there have been times where I
> caused incidents, as just about everyone on Hawaii can honestly say, but
> why do those involved lose points because fault of mine? And I can
> honestly say I have never intentionally caused one, although you may get
> an argument from the other guy :<
> Finally, why have a system that takes away points for hitting a wall? If
> you do this regularly, your car will be damaged, and you will finish the
> race accordingly. Better, develop a scoring penalty for those races with
> damage off, something like half the points or something like that, or
> develop a "difficulty" rating for each race based upon the track, damage
> on, length, ect.
> Until Hawaii can come up with a system that reviews each and every
> incident, and levies the points accordingly, as in the example above, I
> just don't think it's a fair way to score. I would agree that incidents
> offer some deterence to reckless abandon, but that is for only the minor
> few. I sincerely believe that most enjoy a nice, clean race over one
> where an incident gave them a win.
