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A tale of two (Ok three) phone carriers and hawaii

8 posts by 7 people · 10 Aug 1996 - 14 Aug 1996

For about the last month I have been plagued with a rash of random disconnects while on hawaii. As my frustration built up I realized that the start of these problems was roughly coincident with my switch from MCI to Sprint. MCI worked great when my buddy and I used the Friends and Family thing to get approx. 10 cents/min for modem racing. With the advent of hawaii we started racing there and saw our costs go up to 13 cents/min (with no alternate sharing) for an approx. tripling of our racing phone bills. Sprint seemed like a good way to go (10 cents a min. eve./night-25 cents a min. otherwise). When I realized the problem might be associated with Sprint I ran some tests using the Cntrl-Y command. I alternated using Sprint and AT&T (on my other phone line) over three evenings. The results: Test# Carrier Delay (msec.) Quality totSend 1 Sprint 130 58 265 1 AT&T 150 89 338 2* Sprint 150 84 278 2 AT&T 110 93 220 3** Sprint 160 62 250 3 AT&T 150 92 203 4 Sprint 160 70 203 4 AT&T 150 89 338 * Disconnected during exit from Hawaii ** Used cabling direct from modem to box on house to isolate house house wiring; Crashed 3 times during test using Sprint. I talked to Sprint about this whole thing and they were very pleasant and nice about it but said that they had checked out their lines and could find no fault with their portion of the system. In fact it seems that they indeed know the first rule of the Signal Corps (it's always the other end) since they said I should check with the service I was attempting to connect to and see if they could be causing the problem. The good ending to this story is that I hooked up for my league race on Friday using my AT&T line with nary a problem. And a most enjoyable race it was as I came from 11th to finish 2nd but the most joy was surely in jsut racing with a good group of guys (the IVGA Gold league) without the ***y disconnects!!! Well I guess I'm back to shopping for a good and less expensive link to Hawaii (although It's a shame Sprint didn't work out. My buddy is using them with no problems and they were very nice on the line with almost no hold time-even sent me $10 worth of free gas). Dave Bradley
Larry Abel 11 Aug 1996#333014
Quoted text (46 lines)> For about the last month I have been plagued with a rash of random > disconnects while on hawaii. As my frustration built up I realized that > the start of these problems was roughly coincident with my switch from > MCI to Sprint. MCI worked great when my buddy and I used the Friends > and Family thing to get approx. 10 cents/min for modem racing. With the > advent of hawaii we started racing there and saw our costs go up to 13 > cents/min (with no alternate sharing) for an approx. tripling of our > racing phone bills. Sprint seemed like a good way to go (10 cents a > min. eve./night-25 cents a min. otherwise). When I realized the problem > might be associated with Sprint I ran some tests using the Cntrl-Y > command. I alternated using Sprint and AT&T (on my other phone line) > over three evenings. The results: > Test# Carrier Delay (msec.) Quality totSend > 1 Sprint 130 58 265 > 1 AT&T 150 89 338 > 2* Sprint 150 84 278 > 2 AT&T 110 93 220 > 3** Sprint 160 62 250 > 3 AT&T 150 92 203 > 4 Sprint 160 70 203 > 4 AT&T 150 89 338 > * Disconnected during exit from Hawaii > ** Used cabling direct from modem to box on house to isolate house house > wiring; Crashed 3 times during test using Sprint. > I talked to Sprint about this whole thing and they were very pleasant > and nice about it but said that they had checked out their lines and > could find no fault with their portion of the system. In fact it seems > that they indeed know the first rule of the Signal Corps (it's always > the other end) since they said I should check with the service I was > attempting to connect to and see if they could be causing the problem. > The good ending to this story is that I hooked up for my league race on > Friday using my AT&T line with nary a problem. And a most enjoyable > race it was as I came from 11th to finish 2nd but the most joy was > surely in jsut racing with a good group of guys (the IVGA Gold league) > without the ***y disconnects!!! > Well I guess I'm back to shopping for a good and less expensive link to > Hawaii (although It's a shame Sprint didn't work out. My buddy is using > them with no problems and they were very nice on the line with almost no > hold time-even sent me $10 worth of free gas). > Dave Bradley
Hmmmm,... Ummmmm.... Looking at the results, why aren't you just using AT&T? Everyone I know that's tried Sprint or MCI has switched back to AT&T eventually. I even save a few bucks every month on my local long distance by dialing 10ATT first. If pricing is a problem, maybe there's some way a 'plan' could be worked out... I'll have to check into this... Since I'm not a Hawaii user, maybe you could e-mail me with some details on this. I can't promise anything, but after hearing all the complaints, there must be a better way! I've never been disconnected, except while on one of those "cheezy fly-by-night" pay phones, or AOL! BTW- Why do they call it 'Hawaii'?... Shoe is to foot, ...as Hawaii is to NASCAR? I'm sure I must've missed something here! :) Larry ('I'm not only an AT&T employee, but also a client!') Abels -- ____- /\ ____- /**\ HOME: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/2412 __L_- /****\ __J_- /** -- **\ ____- /**/----\**\ Check my HOME Page for ORIGINAL ____- /**/ \**\ Modified Stock Car Stuff! - --- 812 ---
: BTW- Why do they call it 'Hawaii'?... Shoe is to foot, ...as Hawaii is to : NASCAR? I'm sure I must've missed something here! :) I think the developers where promised a condo in Hawaii, if they were ever able to make this baby work. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
If you call AT&T, tell them you have Sprint, and are looking for a better deal, they'll talk. I had AT&T for two years, changed to Sprint (.10/min) for one day, called AT&T and got .08/min for three months and it then went to .10/min. The days of haggling are not over. Use it to your advantage. Don't tell AT&T I told you this. ;) Mike
Kai Fuller 12 Aug 1996#333208
Larry Abels, Your from AT&T right?? If I call from WASHINGTON STATE to hawaii (masechusetts??) what kinda pricing will I get?? What would be the cheapsee way? --Kai Fuller Senior Writer of INR
Chuck Stuar 12 Aug 1996#333209
Quoted text (7 lines)> Larry Abels, > Your from AT&T right?? If I call from WASHINGTON STATE to hawaii > (masechusetts??) what kinda pricing will I get?? What would be the > cheapsee way? > --Kai Fuller > Senior Writer of INR
Senior Writer? I'd hate to see the spelling and grammar from a junior writer. -- Chuck Stuart - Mesquite TX USA
>Well I guess I'm back to shopping for a good and less expensive link to >Hawaii (although It's a shame Sprint didn't work out. My buddy is using >them with no problems and they were very nice on the line with almost no >hold time-even sent me $10 worth of free gas). >Dave Bradley Dave - thanks for posting your figures, I hadn't seen anyone's side by side comparisons of the quality of connections for their different service providers. My guess is your results don't reflect much on what other people could expect to see with a specific LD service, except to note that the carrier they use might make a difference in their ability to achieve a solid connection to Hawaii. Charlie Heath Papyrus Design Group
Quoted text (16 lines)> >Well I guess I'm back to shopping for a good and less expensive link to > >Hawaii (although It's a shame Sprint didn't work out. My buddy is using > >them with no problems and they were very nice on the line with almost no > >hold time-even sent me $10 worth of free gas). > >Dave Bradley > Dave - thanks for posting your figures, I hadn't seen anyone's side by side > comparisons of the quality of connections for their different service > providers. My guess is your results don't reflect much on what other > people could expect to see with a specific LD service, except to note that > the carrier they use might make a difference in their ability to achieve a > solid connection to Hawaii. > Charlie Heath > Papyrus Design Group
Charlie, I think that's exactly right. The performance that any service can provide will be dependent upon so many factors that there is no way to decide beforehand which will be the best for YOU. When I switch I'll rerun the tests and post the results again. Dave Bradley

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