SP2 and N2003

Dear old Microsoft has released a list of programs that may be adversely affected (that is, they may not run at all) by Service Pack 2, here: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=884130&product=windowsxpsp2 NASCAR Racing 2003 is among them. Oh dear. Anybody encountered any probs they'd like to share?

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> Dear old Microsoft has released a list of programs that may be adversely > affected (that is, they may not run at all) by Service Pack 2, here: > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=884130&product=windowsxpsp2 > > NASCAR Racing 2003 is among them. Oh dear. > > Anybody encountered any probs they'd like to share? > >

Basically what you'll need to do is just disable the free firewall that is in windows after you install SP2, shouldn't be that difficult.

ive been using SP2 for about 3 days now and NR 2003 season runs just fine. Neil "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jWnTc.141841$[email hidden]...

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> Dear old Microsoft has released a list of programs that may be adversely > affected (that is, they may not run at all) by Service Pack 2, here: > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=884130&product=windowsxpsp2 > > NASCAR Racing 2003 is among them. Oh dear. > > Anybody encountered any probs they'd like to share? > >

"Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jWnTc.141841$[email hidden]...

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> Dear old Microsoft has released a list of programs that may be adversely > affected (that is, they may not run at all) by Service Pack 2, here: > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=884130&product=windowsxpsp2 > > NASCAR Racing 2003 is among them. Oh dear. > > Anybody encountered any probs they'd like to share? > >

Don't be so foolish. If it's a firewall issue, just disable it. Myself, I don't use the Windows' firewall or any of the other security features turned on by default. I have a router and am not apt to open up things that look suspicious. I have no problems with SP2 and gaming, though I haven't tried N2003 in particular. Alanb

including the mods? (tptcc, pta, etc.)? "Neil Canning" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9npTc.1155$[email hidden]...

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> ive been using SP2 for about 3 days now and NR 2003 season runs just fine. > > Neil > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:jWnTc.141841$[email hidden]... > > Dear old Microsoft has released a list of programs that may be adversely > > affected (that is, they may not run at all) by Service Pack 2, here: > > > >

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=884130&product=windowsxpsp2

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> > > > NASCAR Racing 2003 is among them. Oh dear. > > > > Anybody encountered any probs they'd like to share? > > > > > >

dont have any mods installed Steve. i really dont see why they would not work but with MS you never know. Neil "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:OztTc.27003$[email hidden]...

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> including the mods? (tptcc, pta, etc.)? > > "Neil Canning" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9npTc.1155$[email hidden]... >> ive been using SP2 for about 3 days now and NR 2003 season runs just >> fine. >> >> Neil >> >> "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:jWnTc.141841$[email hidden]... >> > Dear old Microsoft has released a list of programs that may be >> > adversely >> > affected (that is, they may not run at all) by Service Pack 2, here: >> > >> > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=884130&product=windowsxpsp2 >> > >> > NASCAR Racing 2003 is among them. Oh dear. >> > >> > Anybody encountered any probs they'd like to share? >> > >> > >> >> > >

Yeah, as usual, MS isn't saying exactly what's wrong...just darkly hinting that there might be, ahem, some <cough> problems <cough>. Could just be something like turning on indexing or turning off the firewall...or it might set yer hard drive on fire and burn yer house down. (I note that half the pgms. that are choking on SP2 are from The Beast of Redmond itself!) See also that Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit 2 is on SP2's sh*tlist...but I didn't think any of the *serious* simmers on this forum would care.... I'll post if I see anything more definitive. "Neil Canning" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5BuTc.2845$[email hidden]...

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> dont have any mods installed Steve. i really dont see why they would not > work but with MS you never know. > > Neil > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:OztTc.27003$[email hidden]... > > including the mods? (tptcc, pta, etc.)? > > > > "Neil Canning" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:9npTc.1155$[email hidden]... > >> ive been using SP2 for about 3 days now and NR 2003 season runs just > >> fine. > >> > >> Neil > >> > >> "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> news:jWnTc.141841$[email hidden]... > >> > Dear old Microsoft has released a list of programs that may be > >> > adversely > >> > affected (that is, they may not run at all) by Service Pack 2, here: > >> > > >> > > >

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=884130&product=windowsxpsp2

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> >> > > >> > NASCAR Racing 2003 is among them. Oh dear. > >> > > >> > Anybody encountered any probs they'd like to share? > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > >

The only problem that would be caused is that you wouldn't be able to connect to the server because the firewall would block your connection. It isn't going to burn down your house...simply block you from connecting. "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:VnyTc.27035$[email hidden]... > Yeah, as usual, MS isn't saying exactly what's wrong...just darkly hinting > that there might be, ahem, some <cough> problems <cough>. Could just be > something like turning on indexing or turning off the firewall...or itmight

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> set yer hard drive on fire and burn yer house down. (I note that half the > pgms. that are choking on SP2 are from The Beast of Redmond itself!) > > See also that Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit 2 is on SP2's sh*tlist...but I > didn't think any of the *serious* simmers on this forum would care.... > > I'll post if I see anything more definitive. > > "Neil Canning" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:5BuTc.2845$[email hidden]... > > dont have any mods installed Steve. i really dont see why they would not > > work but with MS you never know. > > > > Neil > > > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:OztTc.27003$[email hidden]... > > > including the mods? (tptcc, pta, etc.)? > > > > > > "Neil Canning" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:9npTc.1155$[email hidden]... > > >> ive been using SP2 for about 3 days now and NR 2003 season runs just > > >> fine. > > >> > > >> Neil > > >> > > >> "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > >> news:jWnTc.141841$[email hidden]... > > >> > Dear old Microsoft has released a list of programs that may be > > >> > adversely > > >> > affected (that is, they may not run at all) by Service Pack 2,

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> > >> > > > >> > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=884130&product=windowsxpsp2 > > >> > > > >> > NASCAR Racing 2003 is among them. Oh dear. > > >> > > > >> > Anybody encountered any probs they'd like to share? > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >

"Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:OztTc.27003$[email hidden]... > including the mods? (tptcc, pta, etc.)? The mods would make no difference whatsoever. Since N2003 works, the mods will not be affected by SP2

I wasn't being literal. "Stuart Becktell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:W1ATc.145589$[email hidden]... > The only problem that would be caused is that you wouldn't be able to > connect to the server because the firewall would block your connection. It > isn't going to burn down your house...simply block you from connecting. > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:VnyTc.27035$[email hidden]... > > Yeah, as usual, MS isn't saying exactly what's wrong...just darklyhinting > > that there might be, ahem, some <cough> problems <cough>. Could just be > > something like turning on indexing or turning off the firewall...or it > might > > set yer hard drive on fire and burn yer house down. (I note that halfthe

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> > pgms. that are choking on SP2 are from The Beast of Redmond itself!) > > > > See also that Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit 2 is on SP2's sh*tlist...but I > > didn't think any of the *serious* simmers on this forum would care.... > > > > I'll post if I see anything more definitive. > > > > "Neil Canning" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:5BuTc.2845$[email hidden]... > > > dont have any mods installed Steve. i really dont see why they would

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> > > work but with MS you never know. > > > > > > Neil > > > > > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:OztTc.27003$[email hidden]... > > > > including the mods? (tptcc, pta, etc.)? > > > > > > > > "Neil Canning" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:9npTc.1155$[email hidden]... > > > >> ive been using SP2 for about 3 days now and NR 2003 season runs

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> > > >> fine. > > > >> > > > >> Neil > > > >> > > > >> "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > >> news:jWnTc.141841$[email hidden]... > > > >> > Dear old Microsoft has released a list of programs that may be > > > >> > adversely > > > >> > affected (that is, they may not run at all) by Service Pack 2, > here: > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > >

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=884130&product=windowsxpsp2

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> > > >> > > > > >> > NASCAR Racing 2003 is among them. Oh dear. > > > >> > > > > >> > Anybody encountered any probs they'd like to share? > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Nothing can go wrong because...it's Windows! "Biz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:QeATc.450041$[email hidden]...

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> > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:OztTc.27003$[email hidden]... > > including the mods? (tptcc, pta, etc.)? > > The mods would make no difference whatsoever. Since N2003 works, the mods > will not be affected by SP2 > >

"Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:rBMTc.28027$[email hidden]: > Nothing can go wrong because...it's Windows! > > Well, I booted up this morning and tried Nr2k3. No problems. No worries. Win98se strikes again! :) dave henrie change is good when change is needed.

Well der :-P "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:QAMTc.28026$[email hidden]... > I wasn't being literal. > > "Stuart Becktell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:W1ATc.145589$[email hidden]... > > The only problem that would be caused is that you wouldn't be able to > > connect to the server because the firewall would block your connection.It > > isn't going to burn down your house...simply block you from connecting. > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:VnyTc.27035$[email hidden]... > > > Yeah, as usual, MS isn't saying exactly what's wrong...just darkly > hinting > > > that there might be, ahem, some <cough> problems <cough>. Could justbe

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> > > something like turning on indexing or turning off the firewall...or it > > might > > > set yer hard drive on fire and burn yer house down. (I note that half > the > > > pgms. that are choking on SP2 are from The Beast of Redmond itself!) > > > > > > See also that Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit 2 is on SP2's sh*tlist...but

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> > > didn't think any of the *serious* simmers on this forum would care.... > > > > > > I'll post if I see anything more definitive. > > > > > > "Neil Canning" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:5BuTc.2845$[email hidden]... > > > > dont have any mods installed Steve. i really dont see why they would > not > > > > work but with MS you never know. > > > > > > > > Neil > > > > > > > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:OztTc.27003$[email hidden]... > > > > > including the mods? (tptcc, pta, etc.)? > > > > > > > > > > "Neil Canning" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:9npTc.1155$[email hidden]... > > > > >> ive been using SP2 for about 3 days now and NR 2003 season runs > just > > > > >> fine. > > > > >> > > > > >> Neil > > > > >> > > > > >> "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > >> news:jWnTc.141841$[email hidden]... > > > > >> > Dear old Microsoft has released a list of programs that may be > > > > >> > adversely > > > > >> > affected (that is, they may not run at all) by Service Pack 2, > > here: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=884130&product=windowsxpsp2 > > > > >> > > > > > >> > NASCAR Racing 2003 is among them. Oh dear. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Anybody encountered any probs they'd like to share? > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Yeah, sure. Achim T. insists Win 98 is as good or better than XP (and has evidence to back it up), but my own experience w. XP is that it's more stable (not faster). I figure, as a modernist, I owe it to my street cred to know how to make my way around XP. I've dutifully d/l'd SP1 and all the little updates, but I hesitate w. SP2 'cuz it's so late to the party and surely promises more than it can deliver. I'm just trying to stay ahead of trubble. But don't misunnerstan me; I still think billg is the anti-Christ.... "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:rBMTc.28027$[email hidden]: > > > Nothing can go wrong because...it's Windows! > > > > > Well, I booted up this morning and tried Nr2k3. No problems. > No worries. Win98se strikes again! :) > > > dave henrie > change is good when change is needed. > >

"Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:KFTTc.28241 $[email hidden]: > But don't misunnerstan me; I still think billg is the anti-Christ.... Well his second cousin maybe...the REAL AG lives in Indianapolis. dave(yeah I'm a baaaad boy)henrie

Steve Smith wrote: > Yeah, sure. Achim T. insists Win 98 is as good or better than XP (and has > evidence to back it up), but my own experience w. XP is that it's more > stable (not faster). I figure, as a modernist, I owe it to my street cred > to know how to make my way around XP. I've dutifully d/l'd SP1 and all the Say, Steve, what's the simplest way you use to 'clone' your XP drive? I've just made a 1:1 backup of my GPL disk using the 'xcopy c: d: /h /i /c /k /e /r /y' command, but am not sure that still works in XP. Does it? (I intend to go NT2k or XP for GPL later on, even though it runs well here on 98, but that's technically so retarded even on a Repentium, I'd rather leave it behind asap. NT4 worked well, but that didn't support my USB wheel..) (Cloning usually is by far the easiest way to backup imho, since it avoids the numerous reinstall/update-procedures afterwards. You know, SP1, SP2, then App X 1.1, then 1.2, 1.3 etc etc etc..) Regards, Rudy -------------------- GPLRank: -22

I'm still back in the Stone Age, Rudy. I just use Drive Copy to back up the entire c: drive to a spare 80-Gb HD (my main drives are 120s by now) 'cuz I'm afraid I'll miss a "critical" update or new DX component or something. MS says to create a System Restore point before installing SP2, but SR hasn't been exactly foolproof for me. "Ruud Dingemans" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:cfpc41$9l0$[email hidden]... > Steve Smith wrote: > > > Yeah, sure. Achim T. insists Win 98 is as good or better than XP (andhas > > evidence to back it up), but my own experience w. XP is that it's more > > stable (not faster). I figure, as a modernist, I owe it to my streetcred > > to know how to make my way around XP. I've dutifully d/l'd SP1 and allthe

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> > Say, Steve, what's the simplest way you use to 'clone' your XP drive? > I've just made a 1:1 backup of my GPL disk using the 'xcopy c: d: /h /i > /c /k /e /r /y' command, but am not sure that still works in XP. Does it? > > (I intend to go NT2k or XP for GPL later on, even though it runs well > here on 98, but that's technically so retarded even on a Repentium, I'd > rather leave it behind asap. NT4 worked well, but that didn't support my > USB wheel..) > > (Cloning usually is by far the easiest way to backup imho, since it > avoids the numerous reinstall/update-procedures afterwards. You know, > SP1, SP2, then App X 1.1, then 1.2, 1.3 etc etc etc..) > > Regards, Rudy > -------------------- > GPLRank: -22