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PC vs PS

11 posts by 10 people · 23 Aug 2004 10:04 UTC - 26 Aug 2004 18:54 UTC

Matti Kurki 23 Aug 2004 10:04 UTC#32999
Hi, I'm about to update my hardware and I was wondering which one would be better, PC or PS2. The games I mainly play are Codamaster's Colin McRae (2, 3 and 4) and Microprose's GP (3 and 4). At the moment I use PC with FF steering wheel and two pedals. I know that there is a huge variety of download patches, tracks, cars, setups etc. for PC games, how is it with PS2 software? At the moment I'm pretty strongly towards a new PC. All opinions and advice are more than wellcome. Thanks, Matti
With the PS2 what you get on the game disk is it. No mods no patches and nothing extra. You are also only limited to the buttons on the controls. No keyboard I have both and hardly every use the PS2. Only use it for Gran Turismo 3. It will get a workout when Gran Turismo 4 comes out though. "Matti Kurki" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (15 lines)> Hi, > > I'm about to update my hardware and I was wondering which one would be > better, PC or PS2. The games I mainly play are Codamaster's Colin > McRae (2, 3 and 4) and Microprose's GP (3 and 4). At the moment I use > PC with FF steering wheel and two pedals. > > I know that there is a huge variety of download patches, tracks, cars, > setups etc. for PC games, how is it with PS2 software? > > At the moment I'm pretty strongly towards a new PC. All opinions and > advice are more than wellcome. > > Thanks, > Matti
Dan 23 Aug 2004 15:01 UTC↳ reply to Matti Kurki#33013
On 8/23/2004 5:04 AM, Matti Kurki wrote:
Quoted text (15 lines)> Hi, > > I'm about to update my hardware and I was wondering which one would be > better, PC or PS2. The games I mainly play are Codamaster's Colin > McRae (2, 3 and 4) and Microprose's GP (3 and 4). At the moment I use > PC with FF steering wheel and two pedals. > > I know that there is a huge variety of download patches, tracks, cars, > setups etc. for PC games, how is it with PS2 software? > > At the moment I'm pretty strongly towards a new PC. All opinions and > advice are more than wellcome. > > Thanks, > Matti
As far as I know, sim mods are only applicable to the PC platform so if you like to use mods then the PC is the way to go. BTW I notice you are from Finland, very good english. Dan (mother's maidenname is Ranta)
In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Matti Kurki) wrote:
Quoted text (12 lines)>Hi, > >I'm about to update my hardware and I was wondering which one would be >better, PC or PS2. The games I mainly play are Codamaster's Colin >McRae (2, 3 and 4) and Microprose's GP (3 and 4). At the moment I use >PC with FF steering wheel and two pedals. > >I know that there is a huge variety of download patches, tracks, cars, >setups etc. for PC games, how is it with PS2 software? > >At the moment I'm pretty strongly towards a new PC. All opinions and >advice are more than wellcome.
My advice is simple: If you want GT3 (and soon, GT4), and/or really like the idea of just turning on a machine, picking up the controller, and playing an accessible game, get a PS2. Otherwise, the PC is superior for: mods, controllers, graphics. As others have stated, no mods to patch PS2 software. But GT3 is *that* good that I suggest getting a PS2 anyway!
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:25:35 GMT, [email hidden] (Dave) wrote: >But GT3 is *that* good that I suggest getting a PS2 anyway! Getting a bit off-topic, I never really liked GT3, allthough I finished most of the races. After a while I noticed I was only playing to earn that new car or this or that carpart to upgrade it. The races themselves were quite boring most of the times.. either the AI was -way- too fast so I had to upgrade my car first (ie race a couple of boring lower-class races) or I left the AI minutes behind me, because my car was so much faster. With all these different cars and parts you allmost never have really close races :-/ But.. GT4 will have the Nordschleife.. who needs AI when you have the Ring :) To the original poster: a pc is the way to go for all the reasons mentioned, I love my PS2 but I would never ever trade it for my pc.. Andre
Gee...I remember when a PS2 was a PC. I wonder how much they paid to IBM for the copyright. Matti Kurki wrote:
Quoted text (15 lines)> Hi, > > I'm about to update my hardware and I was wondering which one would be > better, PC or PS2. The games I mainly play are Codamaster's Colin > McRae (2, 3 and 4) and Microprose's GP (3 and 4). At the moment I use > PC with FF steering wheel and two pedals. > > I know that there is a huge variety of download patches, tracks, cars, > setups etc. for PC games, how is it with PS2 software? > > At the moment I'm pretty strongly towards a new PC. All opinions and > advice are more than wellcome. > > Thanks, > Matti
In article <[email hidden]>, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (13 lines)>On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:25:35 GMT, [email hidden] (Dave) wrote: > >>But GT3 is *that* good that I suggest getting a PS2 anyway! > >Getting a bit off-topic, I never really liked GT3, allthough I >finished most of the races. After a while I noticed I was only playing >to earn that new car or this or that carpart to upgrade it. > >The races themselves were quite boring most of the times.. either the >AI was -way- too fast so I had to upgrade my car first (ie race a >couple of boring lower-class races) or I left the AI minutes behind >me, because my car was so much faster. With all these different cars >and parts you allmost never have really close races :-/
Continuing off-topic ... Yeah, the races can get tiring. Especially those seriously long and monotonous 20+ lappers on the hi-speed oval. YAWN! And yes, I did sometimes just play to complete it (which I did, woohoo!). Yes, the AI sux. But ... Beating an Oreca Viper with a C5R in a 90 lap Laguna Seca race by, oh, about 0.5 seconds, is a bit of a thrill. Beat the AI with as lowly a car as you can. You can have close races if you set out to. Or take to beating the game as quickly as you can (less than 1 hr to get to a 500+ hp $2M Panoz). Or my favorite: hotlapping. Beat the loaded fast times in the Time Trials. Too easy? Then take on the world at gt3times.com. Make the top 10 and you are a hot shoe indeed. Then go for the Gold in all the license tests. Maybe a month, or two, or 12 later and you are there (if you haven't thrust your controller fully through your TV). And by that time, you've paid about $.001/hr of "entertainment". And GT4 is right around the corner.
In <[email hidden]> [email hidden] (Matti Kurki) writes: > I'm about to update my hardware and I was wondering which one would be > better, PC or PS2. I'm just about to throw the PC out: I'm entirely fed up with the repeated struggle with Windows for years already (it must be me, I grew up with UNIX and just can't handle Windows :-)) and was keeping a PC in the house for race sims only. With the PS2 just dropping EUR 50,- in price, GT4 (with Nurburgring "Nordschleife" - who needs anything else) approaching, I'm switching to PS2. I'm not a mods-type either, so I won't miss the huge amount of downloads available for the PC platform. I don't need many games: I will probably try Formula One '04 for the time being, but expect to spend 90% of my time on the Nordschleife in simulator mode. Cheers, Edwin -- Edwin Kremer <[email hidden]> http://www.xinu.nl/edwin/ pgp: BB70 549B C32B DFF9 03C5 7327 61FE AADC 17BF 2201 (KeyID: 0x17BF2201) ( plain text =non-HTML= PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated ) "Remember, UNIX spelled backwards is XINU." -- Mt.
"Matti Kurki" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (12 lines)> Hi, > > I'm about to update my hardware and I was wondering which one would be > better, PC or PS2. The games I mainly play are Codamaster's Colin > McRae (2, 3 and 4) and Microprose's GP (3 and 4). At the moment I use > PC with FF steering wheel and two pedals. > > I know that there is a huge variety of download patches, tracks, cars, > setups etc. for PC games, how is it with PS2 software? > > At the moment I'm pretty strongly towards a new PC. All opinions and > advice are more than wellcome.
All I'll say is racing leagues. I've made friends and meet fellow members regularly at Rockingham (UK). Actually got a Swiss member coming over to stay for a weekend... Also it's gotten me involved in "real" motorsport, which is cool. The community spirit is great :) Mark http://www.v8thunder.com/
What Mark said! I agree %100 <MM> "Mark Davison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:412b4dcc$0$88397$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (29 lines)> > "Matti Kurki" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hi, > > > > I'm about to update my hardware and I was wondering which one would be > > better, PC or PS2. The games I mainly play are Codamaster's Colin > > McRae (2, 3 and 4) and Microprose's GP (3 and 4). At the moment I use > > PC with FF steering wheel and two pedals. > > > > I know that there is a huge variety of download patches, tracks, cars, > > setups etc. for PC games, how is it with PS2 software? > > > > At the moment I'm pretty strongly towards a new PC. All opinions and > > advice are more than wellcome. > > All I'll say is racing leagues. > > I've made friends and meet fellow members regularly at Rockingham (UK). > Actually got a Swiss member coming over to stay for a weekend... > > Also it's gotten me involved in "real" motorsport, which is cool. > > The community spirit is great :) > > Mark > http://www.v8thunder.com/ > >
Jay J 26 Aug 2004 18:54 UTC↳ reply to <MM>#32887
> Hi, > > I'm about to update my hardware and I was wondering which one wouldbe > better, PC or PS2. The games I mainly play are Codamaster's Colin > McRae (2, 3 and 4) and Microprose's GP (3 and 4). At the moment Iuse > PC with FF steering wheel and two pedals. > > I know that there is a huge variety of download patches, tracks,cars, > setups etc. for PC games, how is it with PS2 software? > > At the moment I'm pretty strongly towards a new PC. All opinionsand > advice are more than wellcome. Keep this in mind when considering a PS2 or an XBOX for that matter (I own both, plus a PC). A console will cost less than half of what a top end video card costs! The graphics may not be able to compare to a PC, but you'll be running at a solid 60 fps throughout the game (well almost). Also in the graphics department, for folks like me, who have an older PC, I find that I have to turn off half of the graphical features of most new games anyway, otherwise the framerate is unplayable. Also, as mentioned above, you won't have all the mod's and tweaks that are available on a PC, but on the other hand, you'll have access to titles that are not available on the PC, such as the Gran Turismo and Project Gotham series. One other thing to consider.... Both F1 and Nascar have signed licence agrements with the console makers (F1 with Sony and their PS2, and Nascar with EA and MS with the XBox) so most, if not ALL new F1 and Nascar games will be either console exclusive, or will be optimized for the console first, then ported over (often poorly) to run on a PC later on.

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