GP2 Sound and Braking

Two things were cleared after wathing F1 today in Germany. First. Hill said, that he heard Berger's engine sounding bad, just before it expired. Well, they CAN hear the other cars.... Bad for Berger, but Hill realy deserves the championship :-))) Second. When braking from 340 kmh after the straight, the braking point is about 90 meters before the corner. Impressive :-) (According to Eurosport) LB

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> > First. Hill said, that he heard Berger's engine sounding bad, just > > before it expired. > Let's be clear on this, he said he heard _an_ engine sounding bad, > and he was glad when it turned out to be Berger's and not his - > I still think you can't hear other engines in normal circumstances, > but I suppose that the change in Berger's engine note was detectable > because it got louder? > - Craig ("Strobe").

In an interview, Villeneuve was describing his (and possibly all other driver's too) outbraking technique of keeping his eyes on the entry of the corner and waiting for the other car to start downshifting before he started braking. They can definitely hear each other's engine, maybe not as clearly as their own but clearly enough to hear down and upshifts. JFD

> First. Hill said, that he heard Berger's engine sounding bad, just > before it expired. Let's be clear on this, he said he heard _an_ engine sounding bad, and he was glad when it turned out to be Berger's and not his - I still think you can't hear other engines in normal circumstances, but I suppose that the change in Berger's engine note was detectable because it got louder? - Craig ("Strobe").

On Mon, 29 Jul 1996 15:54:32 +0200, Jean-Francois De Rudder >started braking. They can definitely hear each other's engine, maybe not >as clearly as their own but clearly enough to hear down and upshifts. Yeah as Hill said in his post race interview that he could hear Gerhards engine sounding a bit off.

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> > First. Hill said, that he heard Berger's engine sounding bad, just > > before it expired. > Let's be clear on this, he said he heard _an_ engine sounding bad, > and he was glad when it turned out to be Berger's and not his - > I still think you can't hear other engines in normal circumstances, > but I suppose that the change in Berger's engine note was detectable > because it got louder? > - Craig ("Strobe").

I assume that since Hill is right behind Berger's car, the exhaust is pointing straight at him and Hill's is pointing away from him. I guess you would hear it. For simulations... I think we should hear the engines though faintly. Since there is no way to look around you, hearing is the second way of knowing someone is there. I also wish the mirrors were like in ICR2. It not as real but like I said.. in a simulation, its hard to look around or judge where other cars are. It still a great sim but it good be the best for years with a little patch for 3D card support and some bug fixes. I want to see my wheels!

LB> Two things were cleared after wathing F1 today in Germany. Actually three: Pedro Diniz is becoming a good F1 driver. LB> When braking from 340 kmh after the straight, the braking point is LB> about 90 meters before the corner. Impressive :-) (According to LB> Eurosport) According to Brundle, i think :-) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Henrik Hjortnaes AMIGA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>First. Hill said, that he heard Berger's engine sounding bad, just >before it expired. >Well, they CAN hear the other cars.... Hill also said - he didn't know if it was his engine or Bergers until Berger slowed down. I don't think we can define what the drivers actually hear until one of them tells us. I have read about several drivers that are interested in computers, and it would be great for us if they could provide some answers here.

> >First. Hill said, that he heard Berger's engine sounding bad, just > >before it expired. > >Well, they CAN hear the other cars.... > Hill also said - he didn't know if it was his engine or Bergers until > Berger slowed down. Although at first he was not sure, Hill did realise it was Berger's engine that was spluttering, as his sounded fine. That is why he took a different line to Berger down the straight, so that when it blew he didn't get covered in oil. Julian _____________________________________________________________________ University of Oxford