GP2 Graphics Cards

I'm wondering if VRAM will make that much of a difference. Anyone out there know? Derrick C

> Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand What the heel are you doing here with all these petrol heads, Papa? Get back to c.s.i.p.g.flight-sim on the double! Hope your having as much fun with GP2 as I am. Makes a nice change from EF2000, but I still seem to lawndart into the railings a lot :) Julian _____________________________________________________________________ University of Oxford

I have an S3 Trio 64 with 1mb DRAM (and a P100) Can anyone tell me if there is any frame rate benefit in GP2 if I upgrade to 2mb DRAM? Thanks

hehe I was a motorhead long before I was traitor<G>. Actually bought my first puter for driving AUTO SIMS. Silly me thought GP2 was actually going to come out 2 years ago.<VBG> PAPA DOC

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>> Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand >What the heel are you doing here with all these petrol heads, Papa? >Get back to c.s.i.p.g.flight-sim on the double! >Hope your having as much fun with GP2 as I am. Makes a nice change from >EF2000, but I still seem to lawndart into the railings a lot :) >Julian >_____________________________________________________________________ > University of Oxford

>> Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand >What the heel are you doing here with all these petrol heads, Papa? >Get back to c.s.i.p.g.flight-sim on the double! >Hope your having as much fun with GP2 as I am. Makes a nice change from >EF2000, but I still seem to lawndart into the railings a lot :) He he :-) You spoke out, what I thought long time before. Have a nice flight with EF2000 and Apatche. Thomas Get up, dive down, no problem.

I Haven't picked up GP2 yet (finals coming up), but I've noticed that there seems to be a performance issue with ATI Mach64 cards (unfortunately, like mine). I don't want to shell out any major sum on a new card just yet, not until things become more clear on the 3d card front, so no Matrox or Hercules for me. However, will a cheap S3 Trio64 2mb DRAM give me better performance in GP2? All of this is on a p150 overclocked to 166 (and counting), 256k pipeline and 16mb EDO, running in WIN95 DOS mode.

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>>I have an S3 Trio 64 with 1mb DRAM (and a P100) >>Can anyone tell me if there is any frame rate benefit in GP2 if I upgrade >>to 2mb DRAM? >Nope. No benefit at all. At least this is true of my Hercules >64/video. I wrote to Hercules asking if it would help framerate in DOS >to increase the RAM they said not currently.

Actually... (now this is what I heard, I don't know for sure) with S3 chipset based cards, they are much faster with 2mb than 1mb. This is because they are 64bit cards and can only run at 32bit with 1meg.. a bit like the Pentium and SIMMs if you like (though Pentiums don't run at all with 1 SIMM). If you add another 1mb to an S3 card to make it up to 2mb then I heard you can about double the speed of the card.

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> >>I have an S3 Trio 64 with 1mb DRAM (and a P100) > >>Can anyone tell me if there is any frame rate benefit in GP2 if I upgrade > >>to 2mb DRAM? > >Nope. No benefit at all. At least this is true of my Hercules > >64/video. I wrote to Hercules asking if it would help framerate in DOS > >to increase the RAM they said not currently. > Actually... (now this is what I heard, I don't know for sure) with S3 > chipset based cards, they are much faster with 2mb than 1mb. This is > because they are 64bit cards and can only run at 32bit with 1meg.. a > bit like the Pentium and SIMMs if you like (though Pentiums don't run > at all with 1 SIMM). If you add another 1mb to an S3 card to make it > up to 2mb then I heard you can about double the speed of the card.

Is this true in Windows and DOS, or just in windows (as I suspect)

Get a Hercules Stingray 64/Video 1mb its real cheap and real fast on my 166 the sim flies. Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand

None whatsoever. The gp2 log:on score is the same with 1Mb as it is with 2Mb. The frame rates are the same, the extra memory makes no difference. My video speed was 329 with both 1 & 2Mb (S3 Trio 64), for a 35 quid card, this aint bad at all. All as extra memory i'll give you, is more colours under Windows. Norm

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> I Haven't picked up GP2 yet (finals coming up), but I've noticed that > there seems to be a performance issue with ATI Mach64 cards > (unfortunately, like mine). I don't want to shell out any major sum on a > new card just yet, not until things become more clear on the 3d card > front, so no Matrox or Hercules for me. However, will a cheap S3 Trio64 > 2mb DRAM give me better performance in GP2? All of this is on a p150 > overclocked to 166 (and counting), 256k pipeline and 16mb EDO, running > in WIN95 DOS mode.

My PCI Mach64 with 2MB DRAM gets a low score (70) from GP2 when reported in the log, this on a P120. However I can run SVGA with track, kerb, trackside object textures (low detail) & smoke. When setting the detail GP2 reports an expected 19.1fps, if I select 17fps the game runs pretty smooth, with occupancy between 75-100% most of the time. I suspect that the MACH64 is giving wierd results on the log, this could be due to the way the clock is set on the MACH64. The other possibility is that video performance is not much of an issue in terms of the numbers reported in the log. In other words, don't throw your card away on the basis of this figure, try it out first and see how it actually drives. -- Suck The Goat