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Upgrading ICR1 to ICR2 - Is it Worth it?

5 posts by 5 people · 23 Jul 1996 - 25 Jul 1996

Markmarl 23 Jul 1996#328092
With all the e***ment and traffic regarding GP2, please bear a thought for us poor souls with 486 processors, 4Mb RAM and ISA SVGA cards, we can but dream of beautiful smooth scrolling SVGA graphics, the feeling of speed and a real time lap that takes less than 5 minutes,....now if only I could afford that Pentium Pro. :-) In the meantime I thought I'd upgrade my ICR1 and go out and buy ICR2 ( if I can get near the Microprose shelf this week). Can you experienced ICR2' ers let me know what the main differences are between the two versions? Is it just 'bells and whistles' or are the driving model and graphics improved? My biggest gripe with ICR1 is the white lines along the edge of the track breaking up, this makes it difficult to pick a good line into the next corner. Thanks Mark.
: With all the e***ment and traffic regarding GP2, please bear a thought : for us poor souls with 486 processors, 4Mb RAM and ISA SVGA cards, we can : but dream of beautiful smooth scrolling SVGA graphics, the feeling of : speed and a real time lap that takes less than 5 minutes,....now if only I : could afford that Pentium Pro. :-) : In the meantime I thought I'd upgrade my ICR1 and go out and buy ICR2 ( if : I can get near the Microprose shelf this week). : Can you experienced ICR2' ers let me know what the main differences are : between the two versions? Is it just 'bells and whistles' or are the : driving model and graphics improved? My biggest gripe with ICR1 is the : white lines along the edge of the track breaking up, this makes it : difficult to pick a good line into the next corner. According to the minimum requirements you are 4meg short in memory. The box says 8meg. I'm not positive, (and can some one help me out here, please?), but I think the 8meg is because to run a couple of the tracks you will need 8meg. Don't hold me to it. It just sound familiar, but that could have been NASCAR. I'm afraid that you may not be that happy with upgrading. Not because ICR2 isn't better than ICR1, but you may not get the performance you are looking for on your machine. But, there are some GOOD things in ICR2. For your situation the #1 thing is the graphics performance (frames per second) was much improved. Provided you have a card that can support vesa 2.0 via univbe (a version is included with the game). Personally I would not say that the graphic detail in VGA is a great improvement over ICR1, but then I don't run it in VGA. With the 1.02 patch the AI is improved and handling feels much more like the real thing. For me, it was worth the upgrade. Now that the traction bug has been fixed with the 1.02 patch, it should be worth it to others also. However, I'm running it on a P90 and in SVGA. Albiet with hardly any detail, but that's my preference. I drive with paint/lines, dirt/smoke, and car textures (now why would he care about car textures??? :->). This gives me an average of 15-22 fps (depending on traffic or track). Hopefully someone can give you some feedback on what kind of graphic performance you should expect on your setup. I've heard great raves about the VGA in ICR2. I just can't deal with it. I need that detail you seem to be looking for and SVGA provides it. One of the keys to racing in the real road is concentrating on where you want the car to be. It is far easier for me to do this in SVGA. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>Can you experienced ICR2' ers let me know what the main differences are >between the two versions? Is it just 'bells and whistles' or are the >driving model and graphics improved? My biggest gripe with ICR1 is the >white lines along the edge of the track breaking up, this makes it >difficult to pick a good line into the next corner. At first glance, its a matter of grafting NASCAResque SVGA onto ICR1. However, there are a lot more subtleties to it than that. The cars are more difficult to drive and throttle control becomes more important (if you've tried NASCAR you know what I mean, since ICR2 is based on the NASCAR physics model, give or take 3/4 ton ;). AI is improved. SVGA and up to 30 fps is available, although you need a Pentium to really enjoy it (I have a fast DX2/66 and get 10-11 fps racing in SVGA with just the last 4/9 details on [ICR2's graphics are *much* more customizable than ICR1], but around 20+ fps in VGA). Some people have reported that the VGA mode is not as clear/pretty as ICR1, since its optimized for SVGA (although you can go up to 30fps vs ICR1's 15fps max). If you do buy it, definitely install the newly-available 1.0.2 patch for better handling. The bottom line is: its enhanced over ICR1, but do you have the machine to take advantage of it? If you're planning to upgrade in the not-too-distant future (6 months?), I'd say go ahead, buy it, get used to it in VGA, drool over SVGA, and you can really enjoy it once you upgrade. I've had the game for 8 months and I think its a worthwhile investment (and I do plan to upgrade in a few months ;). The new DOS/Win95/Mac version is going for around $40 (cheaper than DOS 1.0.0!), so you do have the extra versions in the box/on the CD if you ever have the use for them. Also, one last thought -- this game has *completely* replaced ICR1 for my racing enjoyment, even if I can't make full use of it. So it must be pretty decent... ;) Pick one or more: Model Rockets (competition-NERCB) / PCs (even Atari!) / Papyrus ICR-ICR2-NCR / Who needs a life when you have multiple non-lives?
GAUNTL 24 Jul 1996#328442
U should really get more RAM it isn't that much and u would see a major differance if u tried indy2. Well the graphics really are a step above indy1 and the car handling is better for sure. It has tons of minor improvements that add up to a must buy i think GAUNTLET GP2=multiple ***s
EldredP 25 Jul 1996#328781
Quoted text (9 lines)>Subject: Upgrading ICR1 to ICR2 - Is it Worth it? >Date: 23 Jul 1996 14:19:57 -0400 >Can you experienced ICR2' ers let me know what the main differences are >between the two versions? Is it just 'bells and whistles' or are the >driving model and graphics improved? My biggest gripe with ICR1 is the >white lines along the edge of the track breaking up, this makes it >difficult to pick a good line into the next corner. >Thanks >Mark.
IMHO, seeing the corners is HARDER on ICR2. The edged of the track sorta blend in with the surrounding land. Cleveland and Elkhart in particular are a PAIN... Eldred ________ Eldred Pickett I am NOT paranoid. And why are you always watching me?!?

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