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r.a.s.nascar? My two cents

1 post by 1 person · 22 Jul 1996 - 22 Jul 1996

The majority should win, but my vote is to NOT split RAS along sim lines. Ed, I'm mostly a sim road racer, so I didn't read all of your posts. I LOVE ICR and ICR2 road races, I am grateful for you're efforts to pick up the slack after Rick left. Even though you made it clear ICR was outside your area of responsibility/expertise. I moved from ICR to ICR2 after I had enough CPU horsepower so I didn't have the traction problems. I've never used, or been upset by, the yellow flags. I've always thought WIN 95 would be the last platform I would choose to run a sim. So I read a couple of posts in the "yellow flag bug" threads, and a couple in the more *** "WIN 95 with the ICR2 patch / fraud / class action lawsuit" thread, and ignored the rest. As a Papyrus employee, and someone who offered to answer our posts, you perhaps felt obligated to shovel through all this shit. I watched you growing impatient with the ***, and repetitive, nature of these two threads. I think both points are valid, but I was uncomfortable, embarrassed really, with the intensity of the posts. I'm sorry some jerk forged, clumsily, your name, but that post would have been in your new proposed group, if it had existed at the time. You're right. But you jumped on every bodies shit, and that cooled down real fast. In fact I think there was a surge in posts that expressed gratitude for your support. I also would like you to know that I think those were unprecedented. I've never seen anything quite like them in r.a.s before. I am guilty for not posting "chill the *** out". So I loose your input on ICR. Perhaps F1GP2, and Starting Grid, will be a chance for us road racers to re-define ourselves. <Snip> If someone's going to rip me off, I'd like to know about it. I advised a thief to email Rick Genter for help. Other's jumped on the thief real hard. Are you prosecuting these pigs? As far as Indianapolis Motor Speedway, I'm not reading all of them, but they seem mostly to be "Where can I buy it?" type posts. I don't think it's ICR2 drivers who are pushing for the Daytona hack. I don't have trouble selecting posts that interest me. "people ask the same things over & over again", valid point, for a group that has a FAQ. I think these are facts of life on the net. But having a small group will probably minimize this. *** him. Your postings are a favor, particularly those relating to ICR. You can choose not to do a favor. I think you were on the receiving end of two hurtful acts, the "Ignorant flames", and one real pisser, the bogus posting. I am inclined to vote "NO" for rec.autos.simulators.nascar. However, I do sympathize. Does your continued participation here require the creation of r.a.s.n? Perhaps rec.autos.simulators.nascar will turn out to be a group of dedicated, knowledgeable, and grateful sim drivers. They certainly are on notice. You are committed to your users and your product, if you value your stomach lining, things have to change. I hope you find what your looking for. To all of the rec.autos.simulators.whatever advocates: I understand Ed's problem, what's yours? It seems to be NASCAR posters who want this. I didn't want to go to another group to read about NASCAR and NASCAR 2. Lets keep the road racing sims, ICR2 and F1GP2, in one group. Perhaps we could call it rec.autos.simulators. The split I would like to see is the following: rec.autos.simulators.i.am.an.*** This would be for those who***on people whose spelling, grammar and command of English does not meet their discriminating standards. If the purpose or effect of your post is to discourage further posting by others, r.a.s.i.a.a.a is for you. As an American, I'm proud of the Internet. This is our gift to the world. I know, everyone is supporting it, but it started here. The freedom of speech includes my freedom to hear many voices, in the appropriate thread. r.a.s is for discussing auto sims, not grammar. I want to thank those who post in English, when it isn't their own language. rec.autos.this.is.the.twentieth.angry.demand.for.this.feature.this.week I want to know about problems in sims. But after 19 flames in the thread "*** Papyrus for not including Windows with their ICR2 patch", I understood, and I think Papyrus/Sierra understood. I wasn't expecting to want to run ICR2 under Win 95, and it seems, now that we're seeing how it runs, neither does anybody else. The yellow flag isn't fixed yet, make the point, and *** about it a couple of times a week. Not twenty. You are now excused Larry

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