GP2-Best video card?

I'm in the process of upgrading to a P166 & I need a new video card as well. Any comments on cards that work/don't work well with GP2?

One of the best for not that kind of expensive money, should be a Diamond Stealth 64DRAM. TOEDELEDOKI.

1) Hecules Dynamite 128 (2Mb MDRAM) 2) Matrox Millenium (non-OEM with 2Mb WRAM) 3) Hercules Stingray 64 (21202V with 2Mb EDO-DRAM) In that order, those are the best cards at present (i.e. fastest!) :) Have fun, John _________________________________ __ _____| |_____ __ ________| |__| :| John Wallace | |__| |________ \ :| |::| :| Team WW Racing TSW | |::| | / > :| |::| :|_________________________________| |::| | < / :|__|::|____/ * Sim Racing News * \____|::|__| \ /______:/ \::/ http://sneezy.dcn.ed.ac.uk/simnews/index.htm \::/ \._____\ http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~harmon/simnews

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> >I'm in the process of upgrading to a P166 & I need a new video card as > >well. Any comments on cards that work/don't work well with GP2? > 1) Hecules Dynamite 128 (2Mb MDRAM) > 2) Matrox Millenium (non-OEM with 2Mb WRAM) > 3) Hercules Stingray 64 (21202V with 2Mb EDO-DRAM) > In that order, those are the best cards at present (i.e. fastest!) :)

Any ideas as to the "weighting" a better video card would give. In other words if I was to upgrade from a slow DOS card to a 128 (or other ET6000) what percentage in frame rate would I gain. What I am trying (in my very rambling way!) to work out is how much "help" the video card is to the CPU. Al

> >I'm in the process of upgrading to a P166 & I need a new video card as > >well. Any comments on cards that work/don't work well with GP2? > Matrox Millenium (by far). ...or ET6000-based cards. And If you want a cheap, but fast card then you might consider ARK-2000PV-based cards (e.g Hercules Stingray 64 or Octek Speed 64). Those latter two are not that much slower than Millenium in DOS games (as a matter a fact I got better fps in Chris's 3Dbench (it's a _DOS_ VGA/SVGA-test) with ARK-2000PV card than with Millenium - but when I played with ICR2 I didn't feel any difference). -- Markus Pelkonen

Hi Al, If you look in Sim Racing News (July issue) in the hardware section, there's a graph which shows what kind of boost each video card will give at various CPU speeds - as you will see, a good card can give a BIG performance boost in terms of framer displayed on your monitor per second. This equates to greater feedback from the car, smoother driving from you and faster speeds (theoretically of course!!). Hope it's useful for you.... Cheers! John _________________________________ __ _____| |_____ __ ________| |__| :| John Wallace | |__| |________ \ :| |::| :| Team WW Racing TSW | |::| | / > :| |::| :|_________________________________| |::| | < / :|__|::|____/ * Sim Racing News * \____|::|__| \ /______:/ \::/ http://sneezy.dcn.ed.ac.uk/simnews/index.htm \::/ \._____\ http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~harmon/simnews

Actually the Hercules Dynamite 128 shades the Millenium on both price and performance.... _________________________________ __ _____| |_____ __ ________| |__| :| John Wallace | |__| |________ \ :| |::| :| Team WW Racing TSW | |::| | / > :| |::| :|_________________________________| |::| | < / :|__|::|____/ * Sim Racing News * \____|::|__| \ /______:/ \::/ http://sneezy.dcn.ed.ac.uk/simnews/index.htm \::/ \._____\ http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~harmon/simnews

I agree with one qualification and this may not mean much but here goes. I have the exact same puter as two friends (same guy built them) they have Herc Dynamite 128cards I have a Herc 64/video 1mb. In DUKENUKEM3d using the framrate counter and in 800x600 mode at the same place in the game with the same options I get 2-3 frames better. Wierd but true, but the great thing is the Dynamite is so fast in WINDOZ. PAPA DOC

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>1) Hecules Dynamite 128 (2Mb MDRAM) >2) Matrox Millenium (non-OEM with 2Mb WRAM) >3) Hercules Stingray 64 (21202V with 2Mb EDO-DRAM) >In that order, those are the best cards at present (i.e. fastest!) :) >Have fun, >John > _________________________________ > __ _____| |_____ __ >________| |__| :| John Wallace | |__| |________ > \ :| |::| :| Team WW Racing TSW | |::| | / > > :| |::| :|_________________________________| |::| | < > / :|__|::|____/ * Sim Racing News * \____|::|__| \ >/______:/ \::/ http://sneezy.dcn.ed.ac.uk/simnews/index.htm \::/ \._____\ > http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~harmon/simnews

hehe Not quite. But it does smoke in windows. PAPA DOC

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>>I'm in the process of upgrading to a P166 & I need a new video card as >>well. Any comments on cards that work/don't work well with GP2? >Matrox Millenium (by far). > 0000.0111.0000.0101 + mwowmwowm + 0001.1001.1001.1000 > right.reverend.ed (r.revv.ed) <> http://www.cris.com/~flashboy

To be honest, I've never checked. I personally don't give a damn if my Win95 screen displays a little quicker, that's not very important to me. I am looking for performance where I need it, and adequacy where I don't. I don't like giving info I haven't checked myself, but all info I have shows that the 128 is a very good Win performer as well, perhaps not quite as good as the Millenium, but no slouch. I haven't checked this for myself. and as I don't have a Millenium anymore, I'm unlikely to be able to :( Sorry, John _________________________________ __ _____| |_____ __ ________| |__| :| John Wallace | |__| |________ \ :| |::| :| Team WW Racing TSW | |::| | / > :| |::| :|_________________________________| |::| | < / :|__|::|____/ * Sim Racing News * \____|::|__| \ /______:/ \::/ http://sneezy.dcn.ed.ac.uk/simnews/index.htm \::/ \._____\ http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~harmon/simnews

On Mon, 22 Jul 1996 07:40:32 +0100, John Wallace >Actually the Hercules Dynamite 128 shades the Millenium on both price >and performance.... Even in win95? I knew the Dynamite would rock in dos games, but how about windows performance, since thats what the Millenium is known for? Does the Dynamite have better performance even at, say, 1024x768x16 bit? Rob Sanheim

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> _________________________________ > __ _____| |_____ __ >________| |__| :| John Wallace | |__| |________ > \ :| |::| :| Team WW Racing TSW | |::| | / > > :| |::| :|_________________________________| |::| | < > / :|__|::|____/ * Sim Racing News * \____|::|__| \ >/______:/ \::/ http://sneezy.dcn.ed.ac.uk/simnews/index.htm \._____\ > http://www.legendscentral.com/~harmon/simnews

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>>Any ideas as to the "weighting" a better video card would give. In >>other words if I was to upgrade from a slow DOS card to a 128 (or >>other ET6000) what percentage in frame rate would I gain. What I am >>trying (in my very rambling way!) to work out is how much "help" the >>video card is to the CPU. >Hi Al, >If you look in Sim Racing News (July issue) in the hardware section, >there's a graph which shows what kind of boost each video card will give >at various CPU speeds - as you will see, a good card can give a BIG >performance boost in terms of framer displayed on your monitor per >second. This equates to greater feedback from the car, smoother driving >from you and faster speeds (theoretically of course!!). >Hope it's useful for you.... >Cheers! >John > _________________________________ > __ _____| |_____ __ >________| |__| :| John Wallace | |__| |________ > \ :| |::| :| Team WW Racing TSW | |::| | / > > :| |::| :|_________________________________| |::| | < > / :|__|::|____/ * Sim Racing News * \____|::|__| \ >/______:/ \::/ http://sneezy.dcn.ed.ac.uk/simnews/index.htm \::/ \._____\ > http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~harmon/simnews

Also price wise the Diamond Stealth 3D 2000, S3 Trio 64 Virage chipset w\2meg EDO. I think it maybe the same as the Hercules. According to the testing I did and the numbers at Stanford U, the Stealth outperformed the Matrox card I E-Mail ordered for $125 from Bestway. But it did not come with the gratuitous, yet cheesy Screamer. Hope this helps, Mike