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Jeff Krosnoff

14 posts by 12 people · 14 Jul 1996 - 18 Jul 1996

Neil Yeatma 14 Jul 1996#325903
As you may have heard by now, Jeff Krosnoff and a corner worker were killed instantly with a few laps to go at the Toronto Indy. This was an extremely saddening event at an otherwise exciting race (which I was lucky/unlucky enough to have attended). In order to honour Jeff, I wish to remove his name and car from my various ICR2 carsets. Does anyone know how I do this, aside from the obvious one of replacing his car with different one? Neil -- Meek and obedient you follow the leader down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel.. Neil Yeatman, Ajax, Ontario, CANADA
ARobe855 15 Jul 1996#326013
It was an horrific crash. The worst I have ever seen. Also in two separate Bike GP's a rider and marshall were killed when they collided and then in another gp 4 spectators were killed when debris entered the crowd!!!! Not a weeked to remember. ************************************************************************** *Check out my web page for all your links and racing sim files!! * *IncX-Files and Gillian Anderson page soon!! * *Do it now : http://members.aol.com/ARobe85580/home.html * **************************************************************************
Banfi Fol 15 Jul 1996#326014
Definitely not a nice weekend. Add that 4 people were killed and several other are badly injured because of an accident that occurred during a rally-cross race, and you'll see it's been even worse than that. One thing is certain. If one day, playing GP2, I'll see a car go airborne I won't laugh nor say "wow". Folco -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Folco Banfi | Check out the "records for sale", "NASCAR" Universite de Fribourg | and "Charts" sections of my home page! Institut d'Informatique | Chemin du Musee 3 | 1700 Fribourg, Switzerland | Tel. +41.37.29.84.79 | http://www-iiuf.unifr.ch/groups/sde/users/banfi/home.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Keith Spero 15 Jul 1996#326015
Quoted text (14 lines)> As you may have heard by now, Jeff Krosnoff and a corner > worker were killed instantly with a few laps to go at the > Toronto Indy. This was an extremely saddening event at > an otherwise exciting race (which I was lucky/unlucky > enough to have attended). > In order to honour Jeff, I wish to remove his name and car > from my various ICR2 carsets. > Does anyone know how I do this, aside from the obvious one > of replacing his car with different one? > Neil > --
The only thing i could thing of is clicking on white or gray and pressing clear and then put in blank for all the driver info.
: In order to honour Jeff, I wish to remove his name and car : from my various ICR2 carsets. I am doing just the opposite. To honor Jeff and his memory, he is staying in my PPG96 carset. Racing against his car will be a reminder of my own mortality and helps keep things in perspective. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Robin Ti 15 Jul 1996#326018
>: In order to honour Jeff, I wish to remove his name and car >: from my various ICR2 carsets. >I am doing just the opposite. To honor Jeff and his memory, he is >staying in my PPG96 carset. Racing against his car will be a reminder >of my own mortality and helps keep things in perspective. I agree. I actually bumped up his numbers in the drivers.txt. I did this to give him the benefit of doubt on what kind of driver he would have become...... Kind of to make up for lost potential. ********************************************************************** * Curiosity - 8 1/2 lb. of hell on paws (RIP) * * and now two new additions, Josie and Gigi! * **********************************************************************
James Dunph 15 Jul 1996#326019
I was there, and it was a sad day for racing. I will also remove his name from my cars in honour of his memory.
Mark Yeun 16 Jul 1996#326179
> It was an horrific crash. The worst I have ever seen. I think the Gilles Villeneuve fatal accident was the WORST?
Matt Mye 16 Jul 1996#326180
Quoted text (10 lines)>>It was an horrific crash. The worst I have ever seen. Also in two >>separate Bike GP's a rider and marshall were killed when they collided and >>then in another gp 4 spectators were killed when debris entered the >>crowd!!!! >>Not a weeked to remember. >Actually, those 4 people were killed in France when they were hit by an out >of control rally car. >Tim >http://members.gnn.com/TOlson6275/main.htm
And unfortunately, a 5th victim died from injuries incurred in that wreck. Makes you look back at the Talladega WC, and Bristol Super Truck incidents and issue thanks to NASCAR for the extra precautions taken to ensure fan and driver safety. Peace be with the souls claimed. Matt Myers --------------------------------------------- Expressing individualism is just plain wrong. Crow T. Robot
> > It was an horrific crash. The worst I have ever seen. > I think the Gilles Villeneuve fatal accident was the WORST? I've just seen some photos of the accident and it's very close to Gilles'last one. Also, I've read that Jeff was a close friend of Roland Ratzenberger, the Austrian who died two years ago at Imola, a day before Ayrton. It's terrible to see these things, but the race must go on, not for the show, but for this is just a part of the game :-( Alberto
Perhaps I haven't been paying enough attention to this thread and the one in r.a.s.indy, but it seems to have been widely overlooked that a corner marshall lost his life in Krosnoff's crash. Not to take anything away from the tragedy of Krosnoff's death, but he accepted the risks every time he climbed in the***pit, knowing full well that he may not climb back out. The corner worker, on the other hand, was most likely just a serious race fan wanting to be part of the action, and probably never considered that one day he may get hit in the back of a head by a wheel transmitting 350,000 pounds of force.
Neil Yeatma 17 Jul 1996#326411
Quoted text (9 lines)> Perhaps I haven't been paying enough attention to this thread and the > one in r.a.s.indy, but it seems to have been widely overlooked that a > corner marshall lost his life in Krosnoff's crash. Not to take anything > away from the tragedy of Krosnoff's death, but he accepted the risks > every time he climbed in the***pit, knowing full well that he may not > climb back out. The corner worker, on the other hand, was most likely > just a serious race fan wanting to be part of the action, and probably > never considered that one day he may get hit in the back of a head by a > wheel transmitting 350,000 pounds of force.
I don't want to show any disrespect for Gary Avrin, but any corner worker, with an ounce of sense, would *have* to realize that there is a chance of injury. A number of these guys have been hurt or killed over the years. It happens. The way Gary died was a one in a million accident, and it's really sad, but as his (I think) grandmother said, "He was doing what he loved". Neil -- Meek and obedient you follow the leader down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel.. Neil Yeatman, Ajax, Ontario, CANADA
Following are excerpts from a news release dated July 17, 1996, by IndyCar PPG Indy Car World Series: All condolences for Jeff Krosnoff's family or team may be mailed to Arciero/Wells Racing 30212 Tomas Rancho Santa Margarita, Calif. 92688 DETROIT -- ...Memorial service arrangements were announced Wednesday for ... volunteer course marshall, (who) died in an accident at Sunday's Molson Indy Toronto.... In tribute to Avrin's love of racing, there will be a celebration of his life Saturday at Race City Speedway Motorsport park, 700, 333 11th Ave. SW, Calgary, Alberta. Following cremation in Toronto on Friday, his ashes will be dispersed over the race track during the service that begins at 6 p.m. MT. In lieu of flowers, donations may be made in his honor to the charity of individual choice. Contribution notes and all other condolences for the Avrin family may be sent to his parents: Marc and Ruth Avrin, 201 Esquimalt Avenue, West Vancouver, B.C., Canada, V7V 1R4.... -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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