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1.00 to 1.02 icr2 patch available on Hawaii- still has problems

25 posts by 18 people · 13 Jul 1996 - 23 Jul 1996

Notable threadICR2 1.00 to 1.02 patch appears on Hawaii

A user reported that the long-awaited IndyCar Racing II 1.00 to 1.02 DOS patch had been posted on Papyrus's Hawaii server, and others complained it was not on a website. Readers mirrored it via FTP and web pages until Sierra put it up officially a few days later. Early users found the patch made driver files read-only, fixable with attrib, and reported some install errors.

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Grin 13 Jul 1996#325756
I downloaded this patch this morning. It recommends deleteing and reinstalling icr2 before patching. Ok no big deal. I reinstall the game and then the patch takes about about 1/2 hour to install, Ok no big deal. The intro and intro screen have changed to a pretty cool set. I went to put my Driver info back in and it says "unable to write driver info" even if I don't change anytthing. I stopped at that point and tried to play the game. Hey it actually works but I doubt that the only problem is the driver info stuff. If I found a bug within 5 minutes, I wonder how many others?????????? Mike Lewis
John Vozna 13 Jul 1996#325757
Quoted text (11 lines)> I downloaded this patch this morning. It recommends deleteing and > reinstalling icr2 before patching. Ok no big deal. I reinstall the > game and then the patch takes about about 1/2 hour to install, Ok no > big deal. The intro and intro screen have changed to a pretty cool > set. I went to put my Driver info back in and it says "unable to > write driver info" even if I don't change anytthing. I stopped at > that point and tried to play the game. Hey it actually works but I > doubt that the only problem is the driver info stuff. If I found a > bug within 5 minutes, I wonder how many others?????????? > Mike Lewis
First things first, can you notice a difference in traction??? How about the yellow flag bug??? Let us know as soon as you can! Thanks. -- +++++++++++++++++++++ Need a web site??? Visit mine at: http://www.adgrafix.com/info/jvoznak
Any chance you could get it on Michael's ftp site? Thanks...Chuck : I downloaded this patch this morning. : Mike Lewis >> If anyone get this let me know and I will be able to make it available >> via ftp. Since the weekend is coming up I doubt Sierra will be able to >> update their web site until at least Monday.
Doug Reichl 13 Jul 1996#325759
: > set. I went to put my Driver info back in and it says "unable to : > write driver info" even if I don't change anytthing. I would suggest to check the file attributes. I'll bet that they are read only.
: Any chance you could get it on Michael's ftp site? Thanks...Chuck : : I downloaded this patch this morning. : : Mike Lewis Anyone who has downloaded this file and has ftp capabilities you can ftp the file anonymously to my IPS site. Just send me some e-mail telling you have done so and I will move it over to a publicly accessable address is plastered all over this post :-)). "put" the file at ftp.teleport.com in the in.coming directory. And to state the obvious, don't forget to switch to "binary" before "putting". Everybody thanks you in advance..... -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
TimW 13 Jul 1996#325761
Quoted text (13 lines)>> I downloaded this patch this morning. It recommends deleteing and >> reinstalling icr2 before patching. Ok no big deal. I reinstall the >> game and then the patch takes about about 1/2 hour to install, Ok no >> big deal. The intro and intro screen have changed to a pretty cool >> set. I went to put my Driver info back in and it says "unable to >> write driver info" even if I don't change anytthing. I stopped at >> that point and tried to play the game. Hey it actually works but I >> doubt that the only problem is the driver info stuff. If I found a >> bug within 5 minutes, I wonder how many others?????????? >> Mike Lewis >First things first, can you notice a difference in traction??? How >about the yellow flag bug??? Let us know as soon as you can! Thanks.
Next question....why the hell is this at Hawaii?? Hawaii has nothing to do with ICR2. Can't Sierra afford a web site any more? The Papyrus page seems to have vanished into thin air. Very unprofessional guys... _______________________________________ Tim Wortman NASS '96 Series Director Visit the NASS '96 home page http://www.webcom.com/twortman/nasscar/ _______________________________________
Okay, thanks to Cie Phillips the patch is available via the internet. It can be found at his homepage. I have also including it in my homepage and via ftp. Check the following URLs: http://www.teleplex.net/cie/ICR100_2.ZIP http://www.teleport.com/~mcarver/autosim.htm ftp://ftp.teleport.com/users/mcarver/AutoSim/icr100_2.zip -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Quoted text (11 lines)> I downloaded this patch this morning. It recommends deleteing and > reinstalling icr2 before patching. Ok no big deal. I reinstall the > game and then the patch takes about about 1/2 hour to install, Ok no > big deal. The intro and intro screen have changed to a pretty cool > set. I went to put my Driver info back in and it says "unable to > write driver info" even if I don't change anytthing. I stopped at > that point and tried to play the game. Hey it actually works but I > doubt that the only problem is the driver info stuff. If I found a > bug within 5 minutes, I wonder how many others?????????? > Mike Lewis
Gringo, Can you tell us exactly how to find and download the patch? I looked through Sierra's sierra and papyrus directories on their ftp site, and found hawaii.exe, but no icr2 patch. Do you actually have to run hawaii.exe to connect to the server in Watertown, MA? Can you ftp or do you have to use a terminal program and call long distance? Thanks in advance, -- "Feel Lucky, Scubaboy?" - Discovery Channel, Shark Week, 1995
s.. 13 Jul 1996#325764
I downloaded this patch this morning. It recommends deleteing and reinstalling icr2 before patching. Ok no big deal. I reinstall the game and then the patch takes about about 1/2 hour to install, Ok no big deal. The intro and intro screen have changed to a pretty cool set. I went to put my Driver info back in and it says "unable to write driver info" even if I don't change anytthing. I stopped at that point and tried to play the game. Hey it actually works but I doubt that the only problem is the driver info stuff. If I found a bug within 5 minutes, I wonder how many others?????????? Mike Lewis
Scurvyd 14 Jul 1996#325894
>I downloaded this patch this morning. It recommends deleteing and >reinstalling icr2 before patching. Ok no big deal. I reinstall the >game and then the patch takes about about 1/2 hour to install, Ok no >big deal. The intro and intro screen have changed to a pretty cool >set. I went to put my Driver info back in and it says "unable to >write driver info" for some reason it makes the drivers2.txt in the cars95 directory a read only file, just attrib -r it and it will be ok. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MP Scurvydog #00 Simpson-Cowlings Motorsports http://www.netcom.com/~svydog/scms/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Quoted text (10 lines)>I downloaded this patch this morning. It recommends deleteing and >reinstalling icr2 before patching. Ok no big deal. I reinstall the >game and then the patch takes about about 1/2 hour to install, Ok no >big deal. The intro and intro screen have changed to a pretty cool >set. I went to put my Driver info back in and it says "unable to >write driver info" even if I don't change anytthing. I stopped at >that point and tried to play the game. Hey it actually works but I >doubt that the only problem is the driver info stuff. If I found a >bug within 5 minutes, I wonder how many others?????????? >Mike Lewis
The files in the \cars\cars95 directory are flagged as read-only. Use attrib to remove the read-only attribute. This isnt a bug but a precautionary measure (i assume). -------------- Michael Kirton
said... >>> I downloaded this patch this morning. >Next question....why the hell is this at Hawaii?? Hawaii has nothing >to do with ICR2. Can't Sierra afford a web site any more? Tim, if you've read r.a.s. much recently, you'd know that the Sierra website is a pile of ***whose webmaster sleeps at the keyboard all day. Well, us DOS v1.0.0 guys have been waiting for Sierra to release the DOS v1.0.1 patch for almost a month now (it's been available since the DOS v1.0.1/Win95/Mac version came out in stores). Sierra never did (the rumor is that Sierra wanted to get as many DOS v1.0.0 owners to break down and pay full price for the new version at the stores). Maybe Papyrus finally got miffed at Sierra's lack of customer service and decided to post v1.0.2 on their own BBS (hey, it's over at Papyrus HQ, so it's tough for Sierra to police them from Bellevue, WA) to make us loyal Papyrus customers wax nostalgic on the days when Papyrus was their own company who prided themselves on helping the customer out ASAP (unlike Sierra in recent months). *sigh*...the good ol' days... :-) -- +------------------+--------------------------------------------+ | G. Warren Abao | Official BBL Jacksonville Jaguars Website: | +------------------++------------------------+------------------+ | SPOOOOOOOOOOON!!! | BBL Jacksonville 9-7 | IFL Chicago 10-6 | +-------------------+------------------------+------------------+
The drivers2.txt file becomes read only. You need to turn the read only option off. -- http://user.mc.net/n9ldx McHenry Com Service Provider http://www.mc.net #2 is #1! > I downloaded this patch this morning. It recommends deleteing and > reinstalling icr2 before patching. Ok no big deal. I reinstall the > game and then the patch takes about about 1/2 hour to install, Ok no > big deal. The intro and intro screen have changed to a pretty cool > set. I went to put my Driver info back in and it says "unable to > write driver info" even if I don't change anytthing. I stopped at > that point and tried to play the game. Hey it actually works but I > doubt that the only problem is the driver info stuff. If I found a > bug within 5 minutes, I wonder how many others?????????? > Mike Lewis
Jo 16 Jul 1996#326168
<...> >>Next question....why the hell is this at Hawaii?? Hawaii has nothing >>to do with ICR2. Can't Sierra afford a web site any more? <...> I think you are on to something here. The fact is, they renigged on Rick Genter's promise (supported by the comments of one other old-days Papyrus guy, if I heard correctly), that the new CD would be available to us for a mailing fee. Now Sierra supposedly wants $15 dollars AND the old CD. I don't want to give up my old CD: >>>I don't trust the new one!!!!<<<! It may be worse than the old one, as is apparently worse that the patched DOS version 1.0.2. And $15 dollars isn't a mailing fee- it is the going price for most of Sierra's products in the Sierra Bargain bins at Walden Software and CompUSA, you know, the older stuff sold without the manuals or packaging. $5 and the front cover of the manual should be plenty for sierra to keep the promise. What do they care. I imagine they'll care a whole lot more about looking better with NASCAR2, since NASCAR is probably the reason they bought the Papyrus to begin with. ICR2 is a drop in the bucket, for those relatively few of us that love that sort of racing too. This is a rational reason for why it may have been released on Hawaii. My first impulse was/is to think that is was just another way to wring a few cents out of us, insult-to-injury, but I suppose it is possible that it is a rebellious kick from tethered but formerly great company. I don't blame Papyrus, they'd proved themselves for many years, and even ICR2, for all of it's head and heart- aches, shows lots and lots of loving, intense effort at something they believed in. From what I understand, even Sierra doesn't own Sierra- my local software store guy says they got bought by a local CT company, one in which the CEO didn't even know how to run a game on a computer, had to be shown after-the-takeover what the product actually is.
Shawn Murr 16 Jul 1996#326169
The "Driver Info" is easily fixed by changing the file attributes from Read Only. I had the same "problem." I don't think that qualifies as a bug, if I can fix it. :) Shawn in Cleveland
Jo 16 Jul 1996#326170
>I downloaded this patch this morning. It recommends deleteing and >reinstalling icr2 before patching. Ok no big deal. I reinstall the >game and then the patch takes about about 1/2 hour to install, Ok no >big deal. The intro and intro screen have changed to a pretty cool >set. I went to put my Driver info back in and it says "unable to >write driver info" even if I don't change anytthing. That is, fortunately, a bug you can completely repair yourself. Just do a "attrib -r cars95.dat" at the DOS prompt in the directory with your cars (icr2\cars\cars95\). I think that is the command. Point is, your cars95.dat file was made "read only" by the patch, so you need to make it writeable. Minor flaw- other than that, I think the patch is a winner. Took forever to apply the patch on my system too- in retrospect, it might have been better to use smartdrv before doing the patch- I don't know for sure, but it sure seems the patch was written with lousy disk-buffering. Hey, it is done, we have the patch.
I downloaded the patch yesterday with much jiy. When I got home last night, I set it running, and hit problems. 1st of all, it wouldn't install the new qualifiying setups, because it couldn't find the oold ones to delete (qualace, qualfast, qualeasy), and it then stopped with an error message. So I thoiught I would try playing anyway. At first all seemed fine I could drive around NAzereth without the backend flying round, the little re light worked, and the rev counter didn't mess up. I reaslised however that univbe hadn't been installed, so I went back to setup, installe dunivbe, and went back to the game. I noticed straight away that the rev light was on constantly. Then the rev coubter started glitching, and then the rev light started flickering. At that point I swore very loudly, and deleted ICR2 from my hard drive, I suspect it could be monts before it goes back. I'm not convinced this is the patch we have all been after, as there was no file which listed the changes, and Rick said the patch was going to be 1.0.1, and this says 1.0.2. I think we need more info from Papy. Chris FIsher you lot test it first, I'm not wasting another 30 quid on a buggy program.
Mike Manthe 17 Jul 1996#326391
The patch looked familiar to me when I ran it.... sure enough. It is the same utility that DESCENT v1.4 used when it passed out an upgrade in the same manner. Yes, Smartdrv will greatly increase the speed at which it does it's work. BTW, you can't blame Sierra or Papyrus too much for this one. It doesn't look like they wrote the utility. They just used it and decided not to "re-invent the wheel" Aren't you glad? It would have taken 3 more months to get to us...... I haven't tried HUGE smartdrv caches, but didn't notice much improvement between 2MB and 6MB cache when I tested the Descent version. Just don't run it with NO cache.... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz From the Software Company's view, there is a big plus to using it: You only need to send out the code that requires changing instead of whole files. + It lets you guarantee the program is already installed before applying the patch. + No one can get the patch and manipulate it into a running program. + The patch can fit on one floppy instead of "fixed" files taking up 3 to 4... Mike
John Marti 17 Jul 1996#326392
Quoted text (11 lines)> >> I downloaded this patch this morning. It recommends deleteing and > >> reinstalling icr2 before patching. Ok no big deal. I reinstall the > >> game and then the patch takes about about 1/2 hour to install, Ok no > >> big deal. The intro and intro screen have changed to a pretty cool > >> set. I went to put my Driver info back in and it says "unable to > >> write driver info" even if I don't change anytthing. I stopped at > >> that point and tried to play the game. Hey it actually works but I > >> doubt that the only problem is the driver info stuff. If I found a > >> bug within 5 minutes, I wonder how many others?????????? > >> Mike Lewis
I found this bug to!...any idea what causes it??...and yeah,there are others to. After reinstalling the game and running the patch,I went back into a saved race I was having at Michigan. Upon selecting the saved race,the screen came up and I breathed a sigh of relief....we moved off the line ( Iwas up front),and began following the Pace car for the yellow warm up lap,and "poof!"...the pace car just disappears. I continued on,endded up passing it and got that message to "stay behind the pace car" stuff,and then the whole system crashed!...Great!! It may be just that I was running a previously saved race on the newer patched version,so I'll have another go tonight and start a fresh race. See what happens then,I guess. rgs,John
: Okay, thanks to Cie Phillips the patch is available via the internet. : It can be found at his homepage. I have also including it in my : homepage and via ftp. Check the following URLs: : http://www.teleplex.net/cie/ICR100_2.ZIP : http://www.teleport.com/~mcarver/autosim.htm : ftp://ftp.teleport.com/users/mcarver/AutoSim/icr100_2.zip I guess I was hit harder than I thought by the HandOfGod at Cleveland. I coulda swore I updated my website to include the real patch (icr100_2.zip). Apparently I did not get the correct file updated on my server. If you experienced any trouble, I apologize. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Since Sierra On-Line finally put the patch out on the internet my webpage now points directly to the "official" 1.00 -> 1.02 patch. Since I was running out of disk space at my ISP, I have removed the file that was reached by the direct ftp URL. The last time I checked Sierra's web page could not successfully access their own file. Here are the direct ftp URL's for the official patch: ftp://ftp.sierra.com/pub/sierra/patches/sports-sim/icr100_2.exe ftp://ftp.sierra.com/pub/sierra/patches/sports-sim/icr101_2.exe The 1st URL is for the 1.00->1.02 patch and the 2nd is for those who want to patch the latest DOS/Win95 release. Again, I am sorry for any trouble I may have caused by my earlier "brain-fade". -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Jo 21 Jul 1996#327393
Quoted text (10 lines)>: Okay, thanks to Cie Phillips the patch is available via the internet. >: It can be found at his homepage. I have also including it in my >: homepage and via ftp. Check the following URLs: >: http://www.teleplex.net/cie/ICR100_2.ZIP >: http://www.teleport.com/~mcarver/autosim.htm >: ftp://ftp.teleport.com/users/mcarver/AutoSim/icr100_2.zip >I guess I was hit harder than I thought by the HandOfGod at Cleveland. >I coulda swore I updated my website to include the real patch >(icr100_2.zip). Apparently I did not get the correct file updated on my >server. If you experienced any trouble, I apologize.
I'm confused... I downloaded it from your site a week or so ago, and it seemed fine, and I think it did update me to 1.0.2. Are you saying that actually it isn't the right patch? That could be exciting. Thanks for all your efforts, and please let us know what you mean exactly about this probably false-impression I have that there could be a possible "wrong patch" out there.
: I'm confused... I downloaded it from your site a week or so ago, and : it seemed fine, and I think it did update me to 1.0.2. Are you saying : that actually it isn't the right patch? That could be exciting. : Thanks for all your efforts, and please let us know what you mean : exactly about this probably false-impression I have that there could : be a possible "wrong patch" out there. Until the real patch surfaced on Hawaii, there was a "quick" fix floating about. This included actual files for about 4 version 1.01 files (INDYCAR.EXE, OBJECTS.DAT, ROLS.DAT, ???). When Cie made the patch available at this site, I could have swore I updated my site to include the "real" patch icr100_2.zip, however a couple of days later I checked and it still pointed to the "quick" fix. The icr100_2.zip or icr100_2.exe actually requires a full installation from the CD-ROM and patches many files, including many track files and the cars95 files. If you went through this last process, then you have the real patch. BTW: Do you have a valid e-mail address? All replies to the above always bounce as undeliverable? -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Can someone help clear up something for me? Last week (7/13/96) Cie Phillips posted the URL to his web page for the 1.02 patch to ICR2 (that he copied from Hawaii). The file name is icr100_2.zip. I downloaded it and hadn't gotten around to installing it at home, then I saw that the patch was on Sierra's site. When I downloaded that version I noticed that the file name was icr100_2.exe. What's the difference between these two files. Is the .exe version just a self-extracting file? What gives? What did I miss? -- Michael Eskandarian | I'm in the monkey business, | and business is booming.
: Can someone help clear up something for me? Last week (7/13/96) Cie Phillips posted : the URL to his web page for the 1.02 patch to ICR2 (that he copied from Hawaii). The file name is icr100_2.zip. : I downloaded it and hadn't gotten around to installing it at home, then I saw that the : patch was on Sierra's site. When I downloaded that version I noticed that the file : name was icr100_2.exe. : What's the difference between these two files. Is the .exe version just a : self-extracting file? To the best of my knowledge (based on reports from others), the only difference is that the Sierra .exe version is self-extracting and includes a README.BAT which will display the readme file that comes in both versions. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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