Way to get races started quicker on Hawaii

Uhhhh....HUH..What?? Coma se yama. me no espeaka de Pleas repeat in english..Thanks, Mick

I have an idea that should help us all get races started quicker and less*** around in the Chat rooms means less $$$$ Ok this might***off the Hawaii "gods" a little so if you read this Ed and don't approve let me know. Here goes--- I have noticed as has everyone else that sometimes it takes forever to get a race started since a lot of people just hang out in the chat rooms and won't join until it is in "practice". next thing you know there are 25-30 racers there after taking 15 minutes or more to get the race started. We could all help each other out by just joining the race while you wait for your own race to build up. Then quit as soon as you get in there. The race will continue without you and you don't get penalized unless it is in "quallify". I thought at first that it might hurt the number of racers but since a lot more will join in after it's in "practice" then no harm is done. look for a race that is shy 2 or 3 people and join it. then quit easy as that. If we can get a lot of people doing it then we can all save a little money and have quicker "forming" races. any other ideas? Mike_Lewis car # 2, 3, 4, 5, ,10, 24, and many others on Hawaii

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>I have an idea that should help us all get races started quicker and >less*** around in the Chat rooms means less $$$$ >Ok this might***off the Hawaii "gods" a little so if you read this >Ed and don't approve let me know. >Here goes--- I have noticed as has everyone else that sometimes it >takes forever to get a race started since a lot of people just hang >out in the chat rooms and won't join until it is in "practice". next >thing you know there are 25-30 racers there after taking 15 minutes or >more to get the race started. We could all help each other out by >just joining the race while you wait for your own race to build up. >Then quit as soon as you get in there. The race will continue without >you and you don't get penalized unless it is in "quallify". I thought >at first that it might hurt the number of racers but since a lot more >will join in after it's in "practice" then no harm is done. >look for a race that is shy 2 or 3 people and join it. then quit >easy as that. If we can get a lot of people doing it then we can all >save a little money and have quicker "forming" races. >any other ideas? >Mike_Lewis >car # 2, 3, 4, 5, ,10, 24, and many others on Hawaii

This would be extraordinarily bad. Problem #1, we have limited resources to run races. If people start doing this, small groups are going to hog all of the race servers and y'all will have to wait even longer for the resources to free up. Problem #2 is that this defeats the purpose of what we're trying to do. We need to balance the load on the system. We need to fairly distribute limited resources. If the current system is somehow "exploited", we will have to change it to accomodate ways people are getting around it. We're npot doing it to be "mean", we're doing it to be fair to all. Ed Martin Producer, Series Director NASCAR Racing League Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.

No problem Ed I won't do it then. sorry I brought it up in here and hope that it's not late. no more posts about it from me Mike Lewis

I still think you had half of it right.... Rather than just hang around waiting for the "perfect" race, it would be nice if people would just join something. A race with 15 people on the "wrong" track is more fun than 5 races with 3 people in each....or waiting for 15 minutes for them to make up their minds. It's frustrating to wait for "just one more person" in a race, and watch a Tally race get done - 25 new people in the chat room, and NOT EVEN ONE person tries a new track....they all jump into another Tally (taking the rest of the chat room with them). After all, who logs into Hawaii just to race against ONE other car? Just my $0.02, your mileage may vary... etc. Mike

: more to get the race started. We could all help each other out by : just joining the race while you wait for your own race to build up. : Then quit as soon as you get in there. The race will continue without : you and you don't get penalized unless it is in "quallify". I thought : at first that it might hurt the number of racers but since a lot more : will join in after it's in "practice" then no harm is done. In theory you are correct; However, in reality you DO get penalized by simply joining a race. Unless Papy has fixed this bug you can sometimes get shown in the log files as having been in a race when you actually exited during practice. It's a huge points issue when this happens. I've got several races where I did just what you're requesting... and they all showed up on my report as having Q'd last... didn't turn a single lap. The last time I had the issue was on May 30... exited a C***te race with about 30 seconds left in practice (I had to work that night and decided since I couldn't finish, I'd just leave). WOW! Showed up that I Q'd second?! I never even Q'd let along get second. In any event, I got a -65 rating point for that little "don't get penalized unless in qualify" item. Papy though may have fixed this ... and not told anyone. Ed? bill -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Someone who gets lost in thought doesn't go there very often...

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>: more to get the race started. We could all help each other out by >: just joining the race while you wait for your own race to build up. >: Then quit as soon as you get in there. The race will continue without >: you and you don't get penalized unless it is in "quallify". I thought >: at first that it might hurt the number of racers but since a lot more >: will join in after it's in "practice" then no harm is done. >In theory you are correct; However, in reality you DO get penalized by >simply joining a race. Unless Papy has fixed this bug you can sometimes >get shown in the log files as having been in a race when you actually >exited during practice. It's a huge points issue when this happens. I've >got several races where I did just what you're requesting... and they all >showed up on my report as having Q'd last... didn't turn a single lap. >The last time I had the issue was on May 30... exited a C***te race >with about 30 seconds left in practice (I had to work that night and >decided since I couldn't finish, I'd just leave). WOW! Showed up that I >Q'd second?! I never even Q'd let along get second. In any event, I got a >-65 rating point for that little "don't get penalized unless in qualify" >item. >Papy though may have fixed this ... and not told anyone. Ed? >bill >-- >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Someone who gets lost in thought doesn't go there very often...

Bill, I had a conversation with Ken Driscoll a few months back and was informed that he'd write up something that would not allow ratings to be calculated for someone who ran less laps than the race required. For instance if your name shows up at a 5% Atlanta race then you would not gain or lose any points if the standings show you -18 or -17 laps behind. I'm not absoulutely positive that this has been done but maybe ED can clear it up for us. Thanks ED :) Ripp Virtual Velocity Racing "Race for the Sake of the Race"