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Attention Ed Martin/Nascar Suggestions

11 posts by 7 people · 05 Jul 1996 - 17 Jul 1996

Danny Reav 05 Jul 1996#324703
Dear Ed, First of all, thank you and everyone at Papyrus for an absolutely wonderful sim. You guys have done an outstanding job. I have a few suggestions for N2 that I hope will help. 1. Pit stops during caution should be more uniform. In a real Nascar race, during cautions either everybody pits or nobody pits, depending on what the leader does. 2. I would like to see more 3 wide racing at Talladega. 3. More aggressive AI drivers at Tal. It seems AI drivers still won't pass slow cars very much. 4. It would be nice to see cars pulling out to pass and other cars going with them to try to draft by another car at Tal. 5. Closer racing at Tal. The racing a Talladega is much more bunched up than on the sim. The difference between first and last is usually just a few seconds. 6. Make it easier to exit pit stall without having to back up to miss the car in front of you. 7. AI cars wrecking each other through direct contact instead of just spinning into the wall and then taking other cars out. 8.Make cautions less sensitive. Sometimes a little bump brings a caution. Heck, you can't help but swap a little paint at Martinsville or North Wilkesboro Also, two questions: 1. Will the new Texas Motor Speedway be included? 2. Will the "Breakdowns" option be included? Thanks again for a great game. -
: 6. Make it easier to exit pit stall without having to back up to miss : the car in front of you. This could be accomplished by making the steering lock Maximum while in the pit stall area, then defaulting back to the "garage" set steering lock. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
ra.. 05 Jul 1996#324705
Quoted text (12 lines)>: 6. Make it easier to exit pit stall without having to back up to miss >: the car in front of you. >This could be accomplished by making the steering lock Maximum while in >the pit stall area, then defaulting back to the "garage" set steering >lock. >-- >**************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* > Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Just to point out here how things are with Nascar and Indycar racing right now..... I just built a wheel for racing. I had been using a CH VP. I was having the same problem you are talking about. I had to have Non-Linear steering set and also had to use from 5 to 10 degrees steering lock depending on the track. With my new wheel, that uses gears for the potentiometer I can set Linear steering and have been able to set 30 degree steering lock at *ALL* tracks. I am still testing the new wheel (just got it workable yesterday) but as far as drivability goes it is very nice and much more precise than the CH VP. It is kinda nice to be able to do a "U"-turn in 2 and 1/2 lanes right in the tri-oval at Taladega. Have not run too much on the road courses yet to see how it handles there, but expect it to work pretty well. What I am getting at here is, that Papyrus has made the Sims to function correctly......we are limited by the hardware we are using....Papyrus has done what they had to do to make it work with lots of different wheel/sticks without limiting what it will do with the proper hardware. (hopefully what I have built) :) I have never used any of the other wheels, T1, T2, Thompson, etc. I am wondering....how do they work? What settings are most people using with them? Any Comments? Have Fun! Ralph<Ralphw on Hawaii>Williams /---------------------------------------------------------------------------\ /Ralph Williams My real .sig file is in the shop getting repaired.\ /---------------------------------------------------------------------------\
Neil Yeatma 05 Jul 1996#324706
> I have never used any of the other wheels, T1, T2, Thompson, etc. I am > wondering....how do they work? What settings are most people using with them? > Any Comments? > Have Fun! > Ralph<Ralphw on Hawaii>Williams I was going to post something on this subject anyway, but you came out and asked for it, so.... I recently installed shifting buttons on the spokes of my T2 wheel (thanks to Walt Ottenad for the inspiration!). Doing so forced me to keep two hands on the wheel at all times...I used to generally drive with my left hand and shift with the right. Keeping both hands on the wheel, I found it a lot harder to get the wheel around fast, so I turned up the lock-to-lock. Previously this would make me kind of jumpy on the straights, but with my second hand providing stability, this doesn't seem to be a problem anymore. I'm going to crank it up at all of the non-ovals. And I'm quite happy with my T2...I don't want to try an ECC or TSW to make me feel any different about it... :) Neil -- Meek and obedient you follow the leader down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel.. Neil Yeatman, Ajax, Ontario, CANADA
>I recently installed shifting buttons on the spokes of my T2 wheel (thanks to >Walt Ottenad for the inspiration!). Actually, you can thank ME, too ...I was the guy that e-mailed him and requested that he figure out how to do it and tell everyone. To my surprise he eagerly accepted the challenge...I'm now one happy shifter! Randy
ra.. 05 Jul 1996#324708
<snip> What setting are you using for steering lock now? Linear or Non-linear? Thanks for the info. Ralph<Ralphw on Hawaii>Williams /---------------------------------------------------------------------------\ /Ralph Williams My real .sig file is in the shop getting repaired.\ /---------------------------------------------------------------------------\
Neil Yeatma 06 Jul 1996#324823
Quoted text (18 lines)> <snip> > >I was going to post something on this subject anyway, but you came out and > >asked for it, so.... > >I recently installed shifting buttons on the spokes of my T2 wheel (thanks to > >Walt Ottenad for the inspiration!). Doing so forced me to keep two hands on > >the wheel at all times...I used to generally drive with my left hand and shift > >with the right. Keeping both hands on the wheel, I found it a lot harder to > >get the wheel around fast, so I turned up the lock-to-lock. Previously this > >would make me kind of jumpy on the straights, but with my second hand providing > >stability, this doesn't seem to be a problem anymore. I'm going to crank it > >up at all of the non-ovals. > What setting are you using for steering lock now? Linear or Non-linear? > Thanks for the info. > Ralph<Ralphw on Hawaii>Williams
I've put it up to 25 at Cleveland, still messing around at 24 at Toronto, but I've just started testing today...it'll probably be going up some more just to get me around turn 3.. :) And Linear seems to still work fine... Neil -- Meek and obedient you follow the leader down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel.. Neil Yeatman, Ajax, Ontario, CANADA
Ed Martin 07 Jul 1996#324922
Quoted text (27 lines)>Dear Ed, >First of all, thank you and everyone at Papyrus for an absolutely >wonderful sim. You guys have done an outstanding job. I have a few >suggestions for N2 that I hope will help. >1. Pit stops during caution should be more uniform. In a real Nascar >race, during cautions either everybody pits or nobody pits, depending >on what the leader does. >2. I would like to see more 3 wide racing at Talladega. >3. More aggressive AI drivers at Tal. It seems AI drivers still won't >pass slow cars very much. >4. It would be nice to see cars pulling out to pass and other cars >going with them to try to draft by another car at Tal. >5. Closer racing at Tal. The racing a Talladega is much more bunched up >than on the sim. The difference between first and last is usually just >a few seconds. >6. Make it easier to exit pit stall without having to back up to miss >the car in front of you. >7. AI cars wrecking each other through direct contact instead of just >spinning into the wall and then taking other cars out. >8.Make cautions less sensitive. Sometimes a little bump brings a >caution. Heck, you can't help but swap a little paint at Martinsville or >North Wilkesboro >Also, two questions: >1. Will the new Texas Motor Speedway be included? >2. Will the "Breakdowns" option be included? >Thanks again for a great game. >-
1) No, there will be only 16 tracks in the box -- 9 from NCR 1.x plus the & from the Track Pack. Many have been updated, though. 2) If you mean the tow truck, yes, it will be there. Ed Martin Producer, Series Director NASCAR Racing League Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.
: 1) No, there will be only 16 tracks in the box -- 9 from NCR 1.x plus : the & from the Track Pack. Many have been updated, though. : 2) If you mean the tow truck, yes, it will be there. Ed, I know this has probably already be responded to, but since there has been so much chatter regarding this 'n than for NCR2 I can't remember the answer. And since you have already answered some questions you have answered before, I though I could throw another on in the pot. Notice: It okay to answer that "we are looking into it, but we can't promise anything..." This way we will have to right to get upset if it doesn't happen, but... Are you attempting to find a way to include double-line restarts in NCR2? (You will notice I said "attempting". I hope this is a big enough hole to drive a tow-truck^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hfire-truck through.) ;-) -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Eric Adam 07 Jul 1996#324924
I think when he says breakdowns he means engine failure and stuuff .what about it?Also will we be able to adjust the track bar during the race? Regards, Eric
: Ed, I know this has probably already be responded to, but since there : has been so much chatter regarding this 'n than for NCR2 I can't : remember the answer. And since you have already answered some questions : you have answered before, I though I could throw another on in the pot. Okay, I now realize that his question was already sorta answered. Apparently Adam Levesque of Papyrus said that double-restarts are a POSSIBILITY. There appears to have been a MAJOR hedge even on that. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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