Patience,- THE OFFICIAL DAYTONA EXISTS, just ask the KING

Hi I would like to take the opportunity to tell EVERYONE that DAYTONA is coming to NASCAR racing. That is if the deal isn't blown by people making their own patches, or passing around the one Jed tried so hard to keep off the net. This piracy could jepordize(SP?) The release of the Official Daytona track, what ever form it comes in (Nascar2 or a track pack later) Instead of ***in to jed and the pits, or seaching peoples homepages for an ILEGAL patch. Just sit back, enjoy the game as it is, and wait. The Official Track is sure to be better than what some hack(even a good one) could create. Remember, good things come to those who wait!! In case your wondering how I know the track exists, I saw KING Richard playing NASCAR racing last night on RPM2night. Guess what track he was on? DAYTONA!! See ya on the track!! Eric "Janiak"

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>Hi >I would like to take the opportunity to tell EVERYONE that DAYTONA is >coming to NASCAR racing. That is if the deal isn't blown by people making >their own patches, or passing around the one Jed tried so hard to keep off >the net. This piracy could jepordize(SP?) The release of the Official >Daytona track, what ever form it comes in (Nascar2 or a track pack later) >Instead of ***in to jed and the pits, or seaching peoples homepages for >an ILEGAL patch. Just sit back, enjoy the game as it is, and wait. The >Official Track is sure to be better than what some hack(even a good one) >could create. >Remember, good things come to those who wait!! >In case your wondering how I know the track exists, I saw KING Richard >playing NASCAR racing last night on RPM2night. Guess what track he was on? >DAYTONA!! >See ya on the track!! >Eric "Janiak"

Well, I 've stayed away from commenting on all the "Daytona patch" activity as much as possible. However, I would like to say 2 things about Eric's posting here. 1) "This piracy could jepordize(SP?) The release of the Official Daytona track": BINGO! THANK-YOU!!! YOU'RE RIGHT!!!! All the hacks that people are trying to pass off as Daytona will SERIOUSLY jeopardize our ability to get the license to the Daytona tack. PLEASE don't do it. Let me put this another way, if people want to keep passing off hacked versions of Talladega posing as Daytona, that's all you'll ever be able to get with the Daytona name on it. If you want any shot at getting the real thing, STOP THE HACKS! 2) The fact that we did the Daytona track for the Daytona USA theme park IN NO WAY should be taken that we are any further along in getting Daytona for NASCAR 2. Sega has the exclusive license until April '97. We can not get it before that, and it is still unknown if we will get it after that. Re-enfrocing point #1 above, however... if you want to guananty that we WON'T get it, keep passing around the hacked Talladega patches. Ed Martin Producer, Series Director NASCAR Racing League Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.

: Well, I 've stayed away from commenting on all the "Daytona patch" : activity as much as possible. However, I would like to say 2 things : about Eric's posting here. : 1) "This piracy could jepordize(SP?) The release of the Official : Daytona track": BINGO! THANK-YOU!!! YOU'RE RIGHT!!!! All the hacks : that people are trying to pass off as Daytona will SERIOUSLY : jeopardize our ability to get the license to the Daytona tack. PLEASE : don't do it. Let me put this another way, if people want to keep : passing off hacked versions of Talladega posing as Daytona, that's all : you'll ever be able to get with the Daytona name on it. If you want : any shot at getting the real thing, STOP THE HACKS! : 2) The fact that we did the Daytona track for the Daytona USA theme : park IN NO WAY should be taken that we are any further along in : getting Daytona for NASCAR 2. Sega has the exclusive license until : April '97. We can not get it before that, and it is still unknown if : we will get it after that. Re-enfrocing point #1 above, however... if : you want to guananty that we WON'T get it, keep passing around the : hacked Talladega patches. Well, one of the reasons I wouldn't even care to see a "hacked" version of Daytona is that I drive in SVGA mode and have everything turned off except Smoke/Dirt Lines/SkidMarks ON and cars to Auto. I wouldn't even get the pleasure of seeing "Daytona tm" on the walls. As it is I can drive any track I want and in my little mind's eye "hack" it into Daytona. Pretty cheap and easy way to pull off the infamous Daytona patch/hack ;-) Now, I am pretty sure Ed & the rest of Papyrus folks won't want to see the following, but keep in mind a "little day-dreaming" doesn't hurt. This is just something to put into our pipes and smoke -- You know purely a "pipe-dream".... Last year we all dreamed that after hearing that Sega's exclusive rights to Daytona expired 12/31/95 that we would be "driving" Daytona, just like the King did this past week. Well that dream never came true (except for the lucky folks at Daytona USA). With NASCAR2 due out in November'ish '96 and the NRL to follow sometime after that in 1997... I do find it strange that the license wasn't drawn up for another year, but for 16 months. Could it be that there were plans to leave the door open for Daytona to be available for NRL? Disclaimer: Pipe-dreaming is illegal in most of the States, and of course you must be 18 years of age or older to even do it in most areas of the world. Besides, Papyrus's Surgeon General strongly believes pipe-dreaming could do serious harm to the health and longevity of simulated racing. All things in moderation. However, I hold to Weir's "Too much of everything is just enough". -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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>1) "This piracy could jepordize(SP?) The release of the Official >Daytona track": BINGO! THANK-YOU!!! YOU'RE RIGHT!!!! All the hacks >that people are trying to pass off as Daytona will SERIOUSLY >jeopardize our ability to get the license to the Daytona tack. PLEASE >don't do it. Let me put this another way, if people want to keep >passing off hacked versions of Talladega posing as Daytona, that's all >you'll ever be able to get with the Daytona name on it. If you want >any shot at getting the real thing, STOP THE HACKS!

Ed, I hope people will understand now why I withdrew my patch and never release it. I spoke to ISC and from what little they could say, I could see something was coming off and that what I was doing was upsetting the politics a bit. I just hope its not too late for the others 'hack' writers from realising. Jed The Pits http://www.ukps.com/thepits http://www.arc.net/users/jkohl/thepits/

ED WROTE: If i mean if you guys do get the liscencing rights how will you release it will it be released in a future Nascar game or as a track pack add on? Thanks, Keith Speroni http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/2172

Hey Ed and Co., I was just wondering why Sega's game is called "Daytona USA" and in the ENTIRE game the track is not in it once!!! not even any logos of the speedway are on the track!!! Thanks, Keith Speroni http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/2172

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> >Hi > >I would like to take the opportunity to tell EVERYONE that DAYTONA is > >coming to NASCAR racing. That is if the deal isn't blown by people making > >their own patches, or passing around the one Jed tried so hard to keep off > >the net. This piracy could jepordize(SP?) The release of the Official > >Daytona track, what ever form it comes in (Nascar2 or a track pack later) > >Instead of ***in to jed and the pits, or seaching peoples homepages for > >an ILEGAL patch. Just sit back, enjoy the game as it is, and wait. The > >Official Track is sure to be better than what some hack(even a good one) > >could create. > >Remember, good things come to those who wait!! > >In case your wondering how I know the track exists, I saw KING Richard > >playing NASCAR racing last night on RPM2night. Guess what track he was on? > >DAYTONA!! > >See ya on the track!! > >Eric "Janiak" > Well, I 've stayed away from commenting on all the "Daytona patch" > activity as much as possible. However, I would like to say 2 things > about Eric's posting here. > 1) "This piracy could jepordize(SP?) The release of the Official > Daytona track": BINGO! THANK-YOU!!! YOU'RE RIGHT!!!! All the hacks > that people are trying to pass off as Daytona will SERIOUSLY > jeopardize our ability to get the license to the Daytona tack. PLEASE > don't do it. Let me put this another way, if people want to keep > passing off hacked versions of Talladega posing as Daytona, that's all > you'll ever be able to get with the Daytona name on it. If you want > any shot at getting the real thing, STOP THE HACKS! > 2) The fact that we did the Daytona track for the Daytona USA theme > park IN NO WAY should be taken that we are any further along in > getting Daytona for NASCAR 2. Sega has the exclusive license until > April '97. We can not get it before that, and it is still unknown if > we will get it after that. Re-enfrocing point #1 above, however... if > you want to guananty that we WON'T get it, keep passing around the > hacked Talladega patches. > Ed Martin > Producer, Series Director > NASCAR Racing League > Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.

Ed, this is THE BEST post I have yet to see here in r.a.s.n. I am not one who actively pursues the cheap RIP of Daytona , but I gotta admit I have never thought of it in this way before. I only wish we could have seen a post like this LONG ago. This is it , this is THE BOTTOM LINE folks. On another note about SEGA. How does this licencing thing work? Can both PAPYRUS and SEGA both have the license, when it comes up for renewal or are we gonna see a battle royal for the sole ownership, or do you even know? What I am most concerned about is whether or not it will simply be bought by a mega-buck deal by SEGA and leave you and Sierra out in the cold. I realize your position at Papyrus and I appreciate your time here , and I do understand if Legalities are not your cup o' tea , but I had to ask. Good day :) James

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>> Well, I 've stayed away from commenting on all the "Daytona patch" >> activity as much as possible. However, I would like to say 2 things >> about Eric's posting here. >> 1) "This piracy could jepordize(SP?) The release of the Official >> Daytona track": BINGO! THANK-YOU!!! YOU'RE RIGHT!!!! All the hacks >> that people are trying to pass off as Daytona will SERIOUSLY >> jeopardize our ability to get the license to the Daytona tack. PLEASE >> don't do it. Let me put this another way, if people want to keep >> passing off hacked versions of Talladega posing as Daytona, that's all >> you'll ever be able to get with the Daytona name on it. If you want >> any shot at getting the real thing, STOP THE HACKS! >> 2) The fact that we did the Daytona track for the Daytona USA theme >> park IN NO WAY should be taken that we are any further along in >> getting Daytona for NASCAR 2. Sega has the exclusive license until >> April '97. We can not get it before that, and it is still unknown if >> we will get it after that. Re-enfrocing point #1 above, however... if >> you want to guananty that we WON'T get it, keep passing around the >> hacked Talladega patches. >> Ed Martin >> Producer, Series Director >> NASCAR Racing League >> Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc. >Ed, this is THE BEST post I have yet to see here in r.a.s.n. I am not one who actively >pursues the cheap RIP of Daytona , but I gotta admit I have never thought of it in this >way before. I only wish we could have seen a post like this LONG ago. This is it , this >is THE BOTTOM LINE folks. >On another note about SEGA. >How does this licencing thing work? >Can both PAPYRUS and SEGA both have the license, when it comes up for renewal or are we >gonna see a battle royal for the sole ownership, or do you even know? >What I am most concerned about is whether or not it will simply be bought by a mega-buck >deal by SEGA and leave you and Sierra out in the cold. >I realize your position at Papyrus and I appreciate your time here , and I do understand >if Legalities are not your cup o' tea , but I had to ask. >Good day :) >James

It is certainly possible that both Sega & Papyrus/Sierra could get non-exclusive rights to the track & name. That's what we're hoping for. Ed Martin Producer, Series Director NASCAR Racing League Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.