ICR2 patch before F1GP2 release?

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> Well folks, it looks like a close race, will we see Sierra release > the ICR2 patch before Microprose has F1GP2 out the door? > Stay tuned for the exciting finish after these words from our sponsor. > Seriously, for the last few weeks since about the middle of June, I > log into my account daily and check this newsgroup in anticipation of > word about either release, with no luck. > I just hope ICR2's patch comes out first, as I don't think I will > be paying much attention to ICR2 for a few weeks after F1GP2 releases. > Cheers. > --John

i think thats the only reason left why papy hasn't released it yet. good marketing dictates that they should wait so that interest in icr2 will be high when gp2 comes out. maybe sierra and micro***s are playing mexican standoff.... muddy

Well folks, it looks like a close race, will we see Sierra release the ICR2 patch before Microprose has F1GP2 out the door? Stay tuned for the exciting finish after these words from our sponsor. Seriously, for the last few weeks since about the middle of June, I log into my account daily and check this newsgroup in anticipation of word about either release, with no luck. I just hope ICR2's patch comes out first, as I don't think I will be paying much attention to ICR2 for a few weeks after F1GP2 releases. Cheers. --John -- ------------------- John (Joao) Silva http://weber.u.washington.edu/~jsilva Seattle, Washington USA.

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>> Well folks, it looks like a close race, will we see Sierra release >> the ICR2 patch before Microprose has F1GP2 out the door? >> Stay tuned for the exciting finish after these words from our sponsor. >> Seriously, for the last few weeks since about the middle of June, I >> log into my account daily and check this newsgroup in anticipation of >> word about either release, with no luck. >> I just hope ICR2's patch comes out first, as I don't think I will >> be paying much attention to ICR2 for a few weeks after F1GP2 releases. >> Cheers. >> --John >i think thats the only reason left why papy hasn't released it yet. >good marketing dictates that they should wait so that interest in icr2 >will be high when gp2 comes out. maybe sierra and micro***s are >playing mexican standoff.... >muddy

What a crock! Does anyone who regularly visits this newsgroup really expect a patch from Papyrus to steal Microproses' thunder? The reason it's being delayed is not because of marketing - although I hate marketing people - it's to do with final revisions and quality assurance and, maybe, the inertia that a giant like Sierra has. Papyrus can talk about the patch, and in their eyes it may be finished. But the "bureaucracy" which accompanies such a large firm, like Sieera, prevents the finished product from being posted immediately. Just my 0.02 worth. Mike

<<What a crock! Does anyone who regularly visits this newsgroup really expect a patch from Papyrus to steal Microproses' thunder?>> If GPII is as good as I'm (we're?) expecting, no. <<The reason it's being delayed is not because of marketing, although I hate marketing people, it's to do with final revisions and quality assurance and, maybe, the inertia that a giant like Sierra has.>> Here's the question labored by most contributors to this group: Why is "The Patch" (tm) taking so long when the full Win95/new DOS/Mac versions are in the store? How can quality assurance be an issue when there is a full version available that, I hope, has already had some degree of quality assurance testing. I know the Papierra employees are sick of our ranting, but, as my dad always says, acting in extreme defense is sometimes as good as admitting you're wrong. Do I expect them just to sit back and take it while we trash them? No. If someone called me on a screw-up I made I'd be upset, too. <<Papyrus can talk about the patch, and in their eyes it may be finished, but the "bureaucracy" which accompanies such a large firm like Sierra prevents the finished product from being posted immediately.>> By George, I think he's got it! Remember this: Companies are out to make money first and help the customer sometime well after that. Nobody goes into business "...because I want to help the consumer." Whatever Papierra does with the patch/upgrade/whatever will be in their own best interests, not the public's. Nick ____________________________________________________________________ #6 (will he be #28 in '97?) and #94 in the *real* quest for the Cup! My home away from home... http://www.mindspring.com/~ntotoro/ ____________________________________________________________________

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> >i think thats the only reason left why papy hasn't released it yet. > >good marketing dictates that they should wait so that interest in icr2 > >will be high when gp2 comes out. maybe sierra and micro***s are > >playing mexican standoff.... > >muddy > What a crock! Does anyone who regularly visits this newsgroup really > expect a patch from Papyrus to steal Microproses' thunder? > Papyrus can talk about the patch, and in their eyes it may be > finished. > Just my 0.02 worth. > Mike

you and i both know that gp2 "should" be better than icr2, but do you think that papy and sierra are sitting there saying "i give up. gp2 is going to cream us! lets just pack it in." of course not. they are going to fight tooth and nail to take away any little bit of thunder that they can from micro***s. besides, what do you think is going to happen when all those people get home with that gp2 box, boot it up and find out that their p75/90/100 can only get about 9-10 fps or some other framerate that is unacceptable to them? back over to icr2....... yea, yea, thats the ticket....... excuse me, but this is marketing. you just indirectly proved my point. muddy

said... Well, supposedly the release of GP2 is being held up so that it can come out conjunction with the fanfare of its "home" British GP... ...Since Sierra is HQed in the state of Washington, maybe they're waiting to release the patch so that it's released in conjunction with the fanfare of its nearby Molson Indy Vancouver race...? :-) -- +------------------+--------------------------------------------+ | G. Warren Abao | Official BBL Jacksonville Jaguars Website: | +------------------++------------------------+------------------+ | SPOOOOOOOOOOON!!! | BBL Jacksonville 9-7 | IFL Chicago 9-6 | +-------------------+------------------------+------------------+

: Well, supposedly the release of GP2 is being held up so that it can come out : conjunction with the fanfare of its "home" British GP... : ...Since Sierra is HQed in the state of Washington, maybe they're waiting to : release the patch so that it's released in conjunction with the fanfare of its : nearby Molson Indy Vancouver race...? :-) Especially since they missed releasing during the Portland Grand Prix in nearby Oregon :-( -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=