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Has anyone tried e-mailing Thrustmaster with any success. I have sent them numerous messages requesting the converter required to use the T2 with Need for Speed but with no response. On the occasions I have tried phoning them I have been put through to someone's voicemail with the same results. I guess I'll have to buy any future products from a different company if they cant get their act together. Ed

All this and more can be found at http://members.aol.com/ARobe85580/home.html Work on GP2 is furiously continuing. Many who have seen GP2 recently have considered the product flawless, and of releasable quality - they however, are not Geoff Crammond. The later release date is partially due to a joint decision by Microprose UK and Microprose USA to further add to the features already in the sim, and partly by the development team's desire for perfection. This has not been a popular decision by some, mainly those who don't know what is being added, but read on and I'm sure you'll agree it's been well worthwhile to wait 8 weeks for. Remember, this is aiming to be the premier F1 racing simulation for a long time to come, so it's got to last. So what's new? Well, the team have been working on the following areas.... Improved AI : Being one of the most important areas of a simulator, AI can really make or break a game and, as such, is being constantly tested and improved. If you saw and liked GP2 at the recent E3 and ECTS shows well, the AI has been even further improved since then. Rumoured ground-breaking features such as backmarkers moving over for the leaders are implemented which should make for not only better racing, but a better sense of "being there" in real F1 racing. Even the Microprose test drivers find this feature awesome, and they've been racing for months (chorus : "lucky.......!"). Frame rates :?Since the ECTS / E3 versions, work has been ongoing in further improving the frame rates. See later in this section for an update on frame rate advice. Miscellaneous bug fixes : Those who have seen earlier versions will notice that the "drive-by" noises were sometimes a little...strange! This was tracked down to the wrong sample being played at the wrong speed - this and other problems have now been identified, tracked down and shot. TV Director mode :?Now THIS?I?like!! How often have you crashed out of the race and sat and watched? I used to do this all the time in F1GP. The problem was, you could only be in one car at a time, and constantly had to flick back and forward to find good action. Well, "TV?Director Mode" will automatically switch between various cameras, positions and cars to give the player a tv style presentation of the race - depending on the action. Once activated the 'director' will automatically switch between cameras to show you the best action at that time. This feature has now been fully implemented. As an example of how good this looks, on the morning of the Monaco GP, the lead tester set up a machine to run 100% race distance at Monaco using the TV director mode. Within 10 mins he had a crowd of people around standing watching the race and having bets on who would win! In case you're interested, it was Coulthard (yeaaah Scotland!!). Breakdowns :?All reliability &?mechanical failures have now been implemented. With GP2 you can actually see what has happened to another car, suspension failures result in the car sitting at a funny angle, there are electrical problems, and as for engine fires....well, over to MPS friendly test driver : "...imagine following Damon Hill around the track. Just as you're about to give up and settle for 2nd - you notice greyish white smoke coming from the rear of his car. Closing up - you watch Hill struggle around the next series of bends and, as he exits the final corner, the rear of the Williams-Renault suddenly becomes engulfed in red and yellow flames....The once white smoke now changes into a thick black cloud which covers the road ahead....". Glad you waited...?! There is also the possibility of "partial failures" - all breakdowns happen in stages, so it is possible to have a "crippled" car without being out of the race. Sorry for the sketchy details on this, but this is being worked upon even as I write this! Linked racing :?The ability to race with or without CCs has been added, as well as more qualifying options etc. Cheating inhibtors (!)?: Always a problem in simulators. There are always those who will simply "straight-line" a chicane to save several seconds. In GP1 we had Trev Kellaway's utilities which marked a lap as illegal if any grass was touched, and Papyrus have put walls around the chicanes to totally prohibit driving through them. As usual, Geoff has his own elegant "no-compromise" solution, made possible with the 3D engine of GP2. To deter people from leaving the circuit, of course the 3D nature of the kerbs will upset the car's handling, and at speed will launch the car into the air - with indestructible mode turned off, landing after a heavy fall will now result in car damage.?Good.....<g> The '94 "plank" :?While the "plank wear" has always been part of the game, there wasn't actually a plank to be seen! Now the bottom of the cars have been texture mapped to include a plank. Tyre wear :?As we enjoyed from Trev K's fantastic F1GP utilities, a cockpit message "Tyres Worn" has been added, to inform the player of badly worn tyres. <Picture: Exhaust flare> New Graphics :?Exhaust 'flares' have been added, with two little flames appearing from the rear of cars as they change gear. Physics changes :?Height restrictions and modified gravity effects have been implemented to keep the "flight model" realistic if you should be crazy enough to go wheel to wheel with Jean Alesi. Chocks away....! Weather?:?The weather options we saw in F1GP will not be a feature of GP2. This was planned to be included, but would take too long to be implemented, delaying the arrival of GP2 by an unnaceptable amount of time. Some other things people have been asking about which are not implemented in GP2 are parade laps, safety car, "marbles" and tyre marks left on the road from wheel locking. The CPU power and development time for these has been used elsewhere (which is not a bad thing depending upon your point of view). A final word on the "Data Logger" which should be of interest to the hotlappers among us. As already reported, GP2 allows an entire lap to be saved out which is useful for submitting "hotlaps". This "hotlap file" not only contains an entire replay of the lap which people can view, it also contains all of the ".PRF" data on speed, gearshifts, rpm, throttle opening, braking, wheelspin, suspension movement - you name it! It does not however, contain setup info, keeping those super-secret hotlap setups safe from prying eyes! This data can then be loaded into the Performance Analyser, and compared directly with data from your own fastest lap to see where time is gained or last (very similar to Steve Pritchard's excellent "GPAnalyser" program). As with Steve's GPa, the data can also be overlaid onto a map of the circuit for easier reference - see the Picture Gallery for more info on the Performance Analyser. <Picture: Eau Rouge!!!> The Update A lot has been mentioned about plans for an update disk following the initial release, MPS have been quoted as committing December as a release date. Well, there are no firm plans for an update disk, other than the team want to do one. The release date is certainly not fixed, nor even the subject of the update. It could be 1996 season update, could be networking, Wireplay support, a combination of the above or something completely different. The only plan at the moment is that Geoff will take a very well earned rest after GP2 is completed, and after that opinions will be collated and the direction of the update will be decided from there. Questions Below are some of the questions we have received about GP2 - we will endeavour to answer any questions you have, and are indebted to Microprose and particularly the long-suffering Phil McDonnell for all of their help. ?Will F1 style "split times" be incorporated in Grand Prix 2? ?Grand Prix 2 does indeed have split times. At 3 points on the circuit, your split time will be displayed along with a gap indicator. Eg. +2.000 or -0.003 ?Will there be additional flags in GP2, oil, overtaking, black flag etc?? ?No, GP2 will have the same green and yellow flags as F1GP - Flag Marshalls look a lot nicer though! ?When F1 cars go "off-road", the tires will lose grip or possibly be ruined. Will this be in GP2? ?To a certain extent, this does happen. After spinning in gravel or going off-road, your tyres will experience a loss of grip for a short time. However, this will not be severe enough to ruin the tyre. ?Will Grand Prix 2 work in Windows 95 ? ?Strictly speaking, yes - but it is a DOS based program. To run under Windows 95 will require 16Mb RAM as opposed to the 8Mb minimum required for DOS. With 16Mb, Win95 operation is possible although not recommended as optimum frame rates and game performance will be achieved in true DOS. ?In 1994, traction control was banned. Will GP2 feature traction control as we saw in F1GP? ?GP2 does have a feature known as "throttle help" which is one of the driver aids which can be enabled to ease beginners into the game. This helps the player control the rear wheel spin and although it does help your performance, it's not classified as traction control as such. While it would be easy to disable that, F1 cars are difficult to drive and to have the option is important for people learning. Game Speed One of, or possibly the only criticism levelled at Grand Prix 2 has been the concern over the frame rate, and the level of equipment needed to run it. These things are still being tweaked and enhanced, with new versions of the game being issued frequently, but the threshold at the moment seems to be around the P-75 / P-90 level. P-75 and below will run the VGA version "smoothly" (16-17fps) with high detail. A?P-90 and above can begin to look at SVGA running with reduced texturing. This situation is not dissimilar to ... read more »

I have had GREAT service from Thrustmaster. I wrote them needing two pots and two springs for my T2. They sent them within three days, free of charge. Keep trying... Michael Day

: All this and more can be found at [SNIP SNIP SNIP] It's all well and good to spread the news. However, this was bad ethics and illegal. The entire posting was a copy of the story from Sim Racing News which was copyrighted by John Wallace, Sim Racing News 1996. Maybe the poster didn't know this, but if his information didn't come from Sim Racing News but from the source he points to (which I snipped) someone's is likely to lose their AOL account. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

: All this and more can be found at : http://members.aol.com/ARobe85580/home.html It's all well and good to spread the news. However, this was bad ethics and illegal. The entire posting was a copy of the story from Sim Racing News which was copyrighted by John Wallace, Sim Racing News 1996. By posting the above site info, it would appear that this information came from this site. When it's real source is Sim Racing News: http://sneezy.dcn.ed.ac.uk/simnews/index.htm http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~harmon/simnews (U.S. Mirror) Please be more careful with copyrighted material in the future. BTW: I am in no way connected with Sim Racing News. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

But what is the problem if it is not being "published", WWW or Usenet are surely the same sort of medium. I asked a while back in a thread started by John Wallace if the text version of his reviews could be posted or made available via FTP for those of us who have no WWW access and got no reply. I for one am grateful to have seen the posting from Michael Carver and would also like to compliment John Wallace on a most informative review (sans pictures but never mind!!). Al

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>Has anyone tried e-mailing Thrustmaster with any success. I have sent >them numerous messages requesting the converter required to use the T2 >with Need for Speed but with no response. On the occasions I have tried >phoning them I have been put through to someone's voicemail with the >same results. >I guess I'll have to buy any future products from a different company if >they cant get their act together. >Ed

I emailed them several times and got no response. I called them and they shipped my parts immediatley. Go figure. BTW, the # is (503)639-3200 -------------- Michael Kirton

: I will try to get the ftp information and post here later. I just tried : to access their web page with lynx, but can't get to the ftp info. It does look like the "publishers" of Sim Racing News are not being kind to people without WWW access. If your ISP has a unix shell and has lynx installed you should be able to download the last 2 issues via the following URLs: US site: http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~harmon/simnews/96jun.zip http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~harmon/simnews/96may.zip UK site: http://sneezy.dcn.ed.ac.uk/simnews/96jun.zip http://sneezy.dcn.ed.ac.uk/simnews/96may.zip If any of you SRN people are listening, could please make your issues available via regular anonymous ftp? You have a great magazine, lets spread it around. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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> : But what is the problem if it is not being "published", WWW or > : Usenet are surely the same sort of medium. I asked a while back in a > Cut > There were 2 problems with the original post. > 1) Credit was not given to the author and source. > 2) Since the material was copyrighted, and there was no mention of > permission to "reprint" the material a violation of the International > Copyright law was made. The poster of the article was guilty of > omitting the copyright information along with the author's name and the > original source. From the original source is the following quote, "All > rights reserved. Reproduction without permission is prohibited." > Cut

Sorry - you are quite right that all copyright information that was with the original should be reproduced - the hard work of anyone should not be taken advantage of. Would still like to see it FTPable or via some Usenet group. Al

...or those who _have_ access to WWW. Forcing people to use a frames capable browser pisses me off quite a lot. -TPP

writes Hi Tero, Forcing me to write two different versions pisses me off quite a lot too! Either each person can download an improved browser ONCE, or I have to sit and rewrite EVERY page EVERY month to accomodate those whose browsers can't handles tables, frames, forms and other features. Sorry Tero, but I think you'll agree that it is asking too much for us to write Sim Racing News TWICE every month - it is enough work doing it once! Just wanted to explain the reasons why - Thanks for your understanding, Cheers! John _________________________________ __ _____| |_____ __ ________| |__| :| John Wallace | |__| |________ \ :| |::| :| Team WW Racing TSW | |::| | / > :| |::| :|_________________________________| |::| | < / :|__|::|____/ * Sim Racing News * \____|::|__| \ /______:/ \::/ http://sneezy.dcn.ed.ac.uk/simnews/index.htm \::/ \._____\ http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~harmon/simnews

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> writes > Hi Tero, > >...or those who _have_ access to WWW. > >Forcing people to use a frames capable browser pisses me off quite > >a lot. > Forcing me to write two different versions pisses me off quite a lot > too! Either each person can download an improved browser ONCE, or I > have to sit and rewrite EVERY page EVERY month to accomodate those whose > browsers can't handles tables, frames, forms and other features. > Sorry Tero, but I think you'll agree that it is asking too much for us > to write Sim Racing News TWICE every month - it is enough work doing it > once! > Just wanted to explain the reasons why - Thanks for your understanding, > Cheers! > John

*SNIP* ---- Monsterous Sig Deleted ---- *SNIP* Heh heh...sorry John, I had to.. :) At any rate, keep doing what you're doing...the SRN is a fantastic piece of work, and one of the better uses of Frames I've seen. Well organized, great content, and downloadable, too. I don't know what it's like not having a frames-capable browser, but if this sort of feedback is an indication, I don't want to know. Tell 'em to get Netscape! Neil -- Meek and obedient you follow the leader down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel.. Neil Yeatman, Ajax, Ontario, CANADA

>>I will admit that John and the others responsible for Sim Racing News >>haven't done the best job of letting WWW-impaired readers know how to >>access the e-zine. Perhaps this is true, but I do like that they have a zipped package that can be downloaded, so you can use Netscape (or whichever you like) offline to view all there pics and articles. I do it that way- saves a lot of online time. And anybody able to get to these newsgroups should be able to download the zipped version of their 'zine. If you need the ftp address, post and I'll try to dig it up. I can't stand frames... any site that uses them tends to lose me within one minute. they make me feel claustraphopic- they just don't let go! They look pretty, but they are problematic, in my opinion.

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>>I will admit that John and the others responsible for Sim Racing News >>haven't done the best job of letting WWW-impaired readers know how to >>access the e-zine. >...or those who _have_ access to WWW. >Forcing people to use a frames capable browser pisses me off quite >a lot.

While this personally doesn't worry me (IE3 beta) I can see it being pretty annoying for others. What does annoy me is that frames just don't seem to be a very good user interface enhancement for WWW browsing. Or at least, none of the implementations I've seen so far have managed to persuade me that the addition of frames is any advantage over a non-framed site. -- Thomas Beagle

: Forcing me to write two different versions pisses me off quite a lot : too! Either each person can download an improved browser ONCE, or I : have to sit and rewrite EVERY page EVERY month to accomodate those whose : browsers can't handles tables, frames, forms and other features. : Sorry Tero, but I think you'll agree that it is asking too much for us : to write Sim Racing News TWICE every month - it is enough work doing it : once! : Just wanted to explain the reasons why - Thanks for your understanding, Okay, that is very understandable, but can you at least make it possible to obtain the package via "real" ftp as opposed to the pseudo-ftp you are providing? -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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>writes >Hi Tero, >>...or those who _have_ access to WWW. >>Forcing people to use a frames capable browser pisses me off quite >>a lot. >Forcing me to write two different versions pisses me off quite a lot >too! Either each person can download an improved browser ONCE, or I >have to sit and rewrite EVERY page EVERY month to accomodate those whose >browsers can't handles tables, frames, forms and other features. >Sorry Tero, but I think you'll agree that it is asking too much for us >to write Sim Racing News TWICE every month - it is enough work doing it >once! >Just wanted to explain the reasons why - Thanks for your understanding, >Cheers! >John

Speaking about accessing Sim Racing News....I'm having a lot of trouble indeed! John, did anyone ever report about problems using Netscape Navigator 2.0 ? As soon as I leave the "frontpage", my browser crashes (forcing me to REBOOT my PC!!!!) Did you know about this problem and if so, does the new Netscape 3.0 solve this? Greetings and keep up the great work (I heard from others that it's great :) ) Jo "Gravity doesn't exist; the Earth sucks!"

"At least" makes it sound dead easy, but actually we need to look at setting up an FTP server, costs and so on. We don't exactly get paid for this, and I don't mind giving up my time, but I draw the line at my money. I noted from your e-mail that FTP was something some people wanted, and I'm looking into it - can't say fairer than that ;) Cheers Michael! John _________________________________ __ _____| |_____ __ ________| |__| :| John Wallace | |__| |________ \ :| |::| :| Team WW Racing TSW | |::| | / > :| |::| :|_________________________________| |::| | < / :|__|::|____/ * Sim Racing News * \____|::|__| \ /______:/ \::/ http://sneezy.dcn.ed.ac.uk/simnews/index.htm \::/ \._____\ http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~harmon/simnews

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>>writes >>Hi Tero, >>>...or those who _have_ access to WWW. >>>Forcing people to use a frames capable browser pisses me off quite >>>a lot. >>Forcing me to write two different versions pisses me off quite a lot >>too! Either each person can download an improved browser ONCE, or I >>have to sit and rewrite EVERY page EVERY month to accomodate those whose >>browsers can't handles tables, frames, forms and other features. >>Sorry Tero, but I think you'll agree that it is asking too much for us >>to write Sim Racing News TWICE every month - it is enough work doing it >>once! >>Just wanted to explain the reasons why - Thanks for your understanding, >>Cheers! >>John

I dont want to play the smart guy but the only thing you need to do is add a line like 'return to main menu' below your articles and I think you can use all your .html documents for both versions.....just a little idea. Anyway i'm not complaining since i use a frame-capable browser. :)

: I noted from your e-mail that FTP was something some people wanted, and : I'm looking into it - can't say fairer than that ;) Nope, can't be any fairer than that. Thanks. Now if we can only take up a collection... Or maybe someone out there has some spare space they can donate to an excellent cause and provide SRN some free ftp space. Any offers? -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Wow, I've never heard about that before. I use Netscape 2 (testing) and Netscape Atlas Gold (design) and both of them are fine. When you leave the frontpage the first thing which loads is the page initialising the frames, so I guess it must be the frames which are crashing your browser - perhaps it needs reinstalled? Try accessing these URLs and see if it crashes, if not, it must be the frames command. http://sneezy.dcn.ed.ac.uk/simnews/96jun/framtest.htm http://sneezy.dcn.ed.ac.uk/simnews/96jun/welframe.htm BTW, if the frames doesn't work you can navigate the mag without frames using the "framtest" page - it just won't look very nice! I hope that helps. Cheers! John PS - Follow ups complaining about using frames will be ignored ;) _________________________________ __ _____| |_____ __ ________| |__| :| John Wallace | |__| |________ \ :| |::| :| Team WW Racing TSW | |::| | / > :| |::| :|_________________________________| |::| | < / :|__|::|____/ * Sim Racing News * \____|::|__| \ /______:/ \::/ http://sneezy.dcn.ed.ac.uk/simnews/index.htm \::/ \._____\ http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~harmon/simnews

It's not a problem of space, we have several hundred Mb free. We just need to track down some FTP server software and install it on our server (NT based). I'll not have time to look at it until this weekend probably, but I'll see what I can do. Cheers! John _________________________________ __ _____| |_____ __ ________| |__| :| John Wallace | |__| |________ \ :| |::| :| Team WW Racing TSW | |::| | / > :| |::| :|_________________________________| |::| | < / :|__|::|____/ * Sim Racing News * \____|::|__| \ /______:/ \::/ http://sneezy.dcn.ed.ac.uk/simnews/index.htm \::/ \._____\ http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~harmon/simnews

Yes, but a browser which is sad enough that it can't handle frames, well it tends to ***on tables, forms, anything "new". That means we need to go and reformat everything otherwise it looks crap. If people wan "non-frames", they can download the FTP versions and look at them offline by loading each HTM file individually. It's a bit of a hassle, and it would be much easier just to download Netscape 2 or get it off a coverdisk, but it's infinitely preferable to me giving (even) more of my free time. I don't grudge it, and I enjoy doing Sim Racing News, but I don't want to make it more work that it already is. Cheers! John _________________________________ __ _____| |_____ __ ________| |__| :| John Wallace | |__| |________ \ :| |::| :| Team WW Racing TSW | |::| | / > :| |::| :|_________________________________| |::| | < / :|__|::|____/ * Sim Racing News * \____|::|__| \ /______:/ \::/ http://sneezy.dcn.ed.ac.uk/simnews/index.htm \._____\ [link lost in import: /~harmon/simnews]

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>>Forcing people to use a frames capable browser pisses me off quite >>a lot. >Forcing me to write two different versions pisses me off quite a lot >too! Either each person can download an improved browser ONCE, or I >have to sit and rewrite EVERY page EVERY month to accomodate those whose >browsers can't handles tables, frames, forms and other features.

Hey, I've got an even better idea. Don't use frames at all and only write one version for everyone! Frames are bad (and yes, I do have a frame capable browser). ObSimulator: I still remember when I first saw Pole Position in the arcades and was completely blown away by it. -- Thomas Beagle

No it doesn't. I appreciate the service, but when you make viewing the _information_ difficult for the user in expense of a _little_ effort on your part you're on the wrong track. And it is not easy to download Netscape v2.0 over slow connections and not easy at all, if you happen to have a platform that Netscape doesn't suppport at all. -TPP

Would you like that on a silver platter, sir?? What the hell... It would just exhaust you to the point of unconsciousness to download v2.0, wouldn't it? What a joke. People give up their free time to try to do things for other people, and this is what jerks like you say. Just stop you're whining and download netscape. Josh Beaulieu

writes] Oh yes it does... etc I don't mean to be rude, but a _little_ is a huge understatement. Sim Racing News takes a _LOT_ of time, and I have a life as well you know :) I'd like to help, but if people want to look with non-frames browsers they can access the magazine using .../simnews/MONTH/framtest.htm instead of .../simnews/MONTH/index.htm Honestly Tero, if I could afford the time to make a non-frames version I would do that. We want SRN to be all things to all people, but time just doesn't allow that. We're doing what we can... Cheers! John _________________________________ __ _____| |_____ __ ________| |__| :| John Wallace | |__| |________ \ :| |::| :| Team WW Racing TSW | |::| | / > :| |::| :|_________________________________| |::| | < / :|__|::|____/ * Sim Racing News * \____|::|__| \ /______:/ \::/ http://sneezy.dcn.ed.ac.uk/simnews/index.htm \::/ \._____\ http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~harmon/simnews

. Sounds like a personal problem. If you don't like it, why don't you go get your sim news elsewhere. John graciously produces the best source of sim news anywhere on the net. It really bothers me that some ***s feel a need to whine about the proper use of a good technology. Keep up the GREAT work John!!

: . : > : > : >And it is not easy to download Netscape v2.0 over slow connections : >and not easy at all, if you happen to have a platform that Netscape : >doesn't suppport at all. : > : > -TPP : Sounds like a personal problem. : If you don't like it, why don't you go get your sim news elsewhere. : John graciously produces the best source of sim news anywhere on the net. It : really bothers me that some ***s feel a need to whine about the proper use : of a good technology. : Keep up the GREAT work John!! Couldn't agree more. John does a fantastic job with SRN (can't wait for the July edition). It is important to remember that John and the rest of the SRN team do not HAVE to produce the excellent online mag that they put together every month. It is a shame that some people do have trouble viewing it, but please do not complain about it as if the SRN team have some huge obligation to please each and every possible type of internet user. John already puts vast amounts of time and effort into the mag each month and it is not fair to expect that he work even harder to satisfy the few people who do not have a frames capable browser, or are not prepared to try to get one. BTW I happily downloaded Netscape 2.0 to view SRN each month. Keep up the great work, Mark.

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> I don't mean to be rude, but a _little_ is a huge understatement. Sim > Racing News takes a _LOT_ of time, and I have a life as well you know :) > I'd like to help, but if people want to look with non-frames browsers > they can access the magazine using .../simnews/MONTH/framtest.htm > instead of .../simnews/MONTH/index.htm > Honestly Tero, if I could afford the time to make a non-frames version I > would do that. We want SRN to be all things to all people, but time just > doesn't allow that. We're doing what we can... > Cheers! > John

John, I looked at your SRN site last night for the first time. I've just started playing ICR2 and the track guides really helped me in Cleveland. Unfortunately all I have to play with is an F15 Eagle joystick. But after about an hour of practicing my time is down to 1:11:xx. I know this isn't very good. But its better than before. I can actually stay on the track now. I know my times will continue to go down. One day when I can afford it I'll buy one of those wheel/pedal combos like you rich guys...:) But I must say that I'm very impressed and pleased with the job you and your crew have done. Thanx for a great site. As-Salaam-Alaikum, Michael Muhammad

Don't worry - when I started at Cleveland I was doing times like yours, and even before my league race last week I hadn't gone better than 1:06.xxx. Now after an intensive one week practice, I can run 59.xxx often in hotlap setup - you will improve for sure! BTW - I would advise you NOT to try a wheel/pedal. If you try one, you will buy it :) They are SO much better for driving, not necessarily faster, but more realistic and relaxing to drive. Great fun! Glad you liked the mag, Cheers! John _________________________________ __ _____| |_____ __ ________| |__| :| John Wallace | |__| |________ \ :| |::| :| Team WW Racing TSW | |::| | / > :| |::| :|_________________________________| |::| | < / :|__|::|____/ * Sim Racing News * \____|::|__| \ /______:/ \::/ http://sneezy.dcn.ed.ac.uk/simnews/index.htm \._____\ [link lost in import: /~harmon/simnews]

Get a live ! John and Marc are doing SRN in their free time. Its not their job !!! Georg

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> >Speaking about accessing Sim Racing News....I'm having a lot of trouble indeed! > >John, did anyone ever report about problems using Netscape Navigator 2.0 ? As > >soon as I leave the "frontpage", my browser crashes (forcing me to REBOOT my > >PC!!!!) > Wow, I've never heard about that before. I use Netscape 2 (testing) and > Netscape Atlas Gold (design) and both of them are fine. When you leave > the frontpage the first thing which loads is the page initialising the > frames, so I guess it must be the frames which are crashing your browser > - perhaps it needs reinstalled? > Cheers! > John > PS - Follow ups complaining about using frames will be ignored ;)

Nice attitude as long as you're the only game in town. When ZD and others enter this market your attitude may become more 'user friendly'. Chuck Stuart - Mesquite TX USA

>> >Speaking about accessing Sim Racing News....I'm having a lot of trouble indeed! >> >John, did anyone ever report about problems using Netscape Navigator 2.0 ? As >> >soon as I leave the "frontpage", my browser crashes (forcing me to REBOOT my

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>> >PC!!!!) >> Wow, I've never heard about that before. I use Netscape 2 (testing) and >> Netscape Atlas Gold (design) and both of them are fine. When you leave >> the frontpage the first thing which loads is the page initialising the >> frames, so I guess it must be the frames which are crashing your browser >> - perhaps it needs reinstalled? >> Cheers! >> John >> PS - Follow ups complaining about using frames will be ignored ;) >Nice attitude as long as you're the only game in town. When ZD and others

enter this >market your attitude may become more 'user friendly'. >Chuck Stuart - Mesquite TX USA Hey Chuck! Maybe you haven't noticed, but Sim Racing News is *free*! From what I've seen, John Wallace works his ass off on this thing, and it shows! I really look forward to it each month. Maybe you should pull your head far enough outta your ASS to see all the work that John puts into his page. And what does he ask from us in return? NOTHING. Not one thing. AND, Sim Racing News is better than anything a *professional* journalist could ever do, because it seems like John is one of us, a sim racing junkie. So basically, what I'm saying to you is.....SHUT UP! SRN is not a "business", it a free-lance web page made for people like you and me that enjoy sim racing. *** all you want, I applaud John for all his efforts on a great magazine! THANKS JOHN!!! PS. How come the Germans are so special all of a sudden and have copies of GP2 ONE WEEK before it's even shipped? I guess Microprose must feel sorry for Shumacher :) I don't even wanna think of what finding GP2 is gonna be like here in the US.......

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> >> >Speaking about accessing Sim Racing News....I'm having a lot of trouble > indeed! > >> >John, did anyone ever report about problems using Netscape Navigator 2.0 ? > As > >> >soon as I leave the "frontpage", my browser crashes (forcing me to REBOOT > my > >> >PC!!!!) > >> Wow, I've never heard about that before. I use Netscape 2 (testing) and > >> Netscape Atlas Gold (design) and both of them are fine. When you leave > >> the frontpage the first thing which loads is the page initialising the > >> frames, so I guess it must be the frames which are crashing your browser > >> - perhaps it needs reinstalled? > >> Cheers! > >> John > >> PS - Follow ups complaining about using frames will be ignored ;) > >Nice attitude as long as you're the only game in town. When ZD and others > enter this > >market your attitude may become more 'user friendly'. > >Chuck Stuart - Mesquite TX USA > Hey Chuck! Maybe you haven't noticed, but Sim Racing News is *free*! From what > I've seen, John Wallace works his ass off on this thing, and it shows! I really > look forward to it each month. Maybe you should pull your head far enough outta > your ASS to see all the work that John puts into his page. And what does he ask > from us in return? NOTHING. Not one thing. AND, Sim Racing News is better than > anything a *professional* journalist could ever do, because it seems like John > is one of us, a sim racing junkie. So basically, what I'm saying to you > is.....SHUT UP! SRN is not a "business", it a free-lance web page made for > people like you and me that enjoy sim racing. *** all you want, I applaud > John for all his efforts on a great magazine! THANKS JOHN!!! > PS. How come the Germans are so special all of a sudden and have copies of GP2 > ONE WEEK before it's even shipped? I guess Microprose must feel sorry for > Shumacher :) I don't even wanna think of what finding GP2 is gonna be like here > in the US.......I also applaud the work of John Wallace, I am from Australia and think it

is the best publication I've ever read!

Hmmm, so all the advice I posted didn't mean anything, and the _JOKE_ I posted at the end gives me an attitude problem?! Nice attitude buddy! (that was also a joke by the way!). Cheers! ;) John _________________________________ __ _____| |_____ __ ________| |__| :| John Wallace | |__| |________ \ :| |::| :| Team WW Racing TSW | |::| | / > :| |::| :|_________________________________| |::| | < / :|__|::|____/ * Sim Racing News * \____|::|__| \ /______:/ \::/ http://sneezy.dcn.ed.ac.uk/simnews/index.htm \::/ \._____\ http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~harmon/simnews

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> >> >Speaking about accessing Sim Racing News....I'm having a lot of trouble > indeed! > >> >John, did anyone ever report about problems using Netscape Navigator 2.0 ? > As > >> >soon as I leave the "frontpage", my browser crashes (forcing me to REBOOT > my > >> >PC!!!!) > >> Wow, I've never heard about that before. I use Netscape 2 (testing) and > >> Netscape Atlas Gold (design) and both of them are fine. When you leave > >> the frontpage the first thing which loads is the page initialising the > >> frames, so I guess it must be the frames which are crashing your browser > >> - perhaps it needs reinstalled? > >> Cheers! > >> John > >> PS - Follow ups complaining about using frames will be ignored ;) > >Nice attitude as long as you're the only game in town. When ZD and others > enter this > >market your attitude may become more 'user friendly'. > PS. How come the Germans are so special all of a sudden and have copies of GP2 > ONE WEEK before it's even shipped? I guess Microprose must feel sorry for > Shumacher :) I don't even wanna think of what finding GP2 is gonna be like here > in the US.......

I guess, the F1 fever is quite the biggest know in Germany. That's understandable, because Schumi is double world champion. Of course, this could settle quite dramatically, if the Fumaries, eehh, Ferraris keep smoking like that... 8^) l8er ronny

Hey John, Don't listen to what these jerkoffs have to say. 99.9% of the sim racing fraternity who tune in to this group are *fully aware* of the time and effort you spend getting each edition of SRN ready. If these other guys can't be bothered to download a decent version of netscape then tough! It only took me 1 hour and 8 minutes last week on my 14400 Sportster. You even provide an FTP version for non-web surfers - what a service!! I think SRN is the best thing I've come across on the Web. Its informative, unbiased and a downright good read. You have been providing a fantastic service, especially to those of us waiting for the arrival of GP2. You have been keeping us informed of developments from the testing team directly, which is more than anyone else has bothered to do. And you do all this for no financial rewards! On behalf of the appreciative and supportive majority, I say a heartfelt THANK YOU for yours and Marcs efforts to produce what is the best sim magazine around. May all your laps be hot ones! Pete ----

> > If you don't like it, why don't you go get your sim news elsewhere. > John graciously produces the best source of sim news anywhere on the net. It > really bothers me that some ***s feel a need to whine about the proper use > of a good technology. > Keep up the GREAT work John!! Here here!!! Since John and his associates are providing an excellent means for us to one-stop shop,all kinds of relevant and interesting material,AND since this is all done,just coz he's a nice bloke(no cost to us),it seems to me that we accept graciously,whatever is provided... If it does'nt suit us all...TOUGH NUTS FOR US! I'm sure John and the gang,would appreciate any helpful ideas that may help to enhance the magazine,or make his life easier... But cut out the complaining!! rgs

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>> I don't mean to be rude, but a _little_ is a huge understatement. Sim >> Racing News takes a _LOT_ of time, and I have a life as well you know :) >> Honestly Tero, if I could afford the time to make a non-frames version I >> would do that. We want SRN to be all things to all people, but time just >> doesn't allow that. We're doing what we can... >Hey John, >Don't listen to what these jerkoffs have to say. 99.9% of the sim racing fraternity >who tune in to this group are *fully aware* of the time and effort you spend getting >each edition of SRN ready. If these other guys can't be bothered to download a >decent version of netscape then tough! It only took me 1 hour and 8 minutes last week >on my 14400 Sportster. You even provide an FTP version for non-web surfers - what a >service!! >I think SRN is the best thing I've come across on the Web. Its informative, unbiased >and a downright good read. You have been providing a fantastic service, especially to >those of us waiting for the arrival of GP2. You have been keeping us informed of >developments from the testing team directly, which is more than anyone else has >bothered to do. And you do all this for no financial rewards! >On behalf of the appreciative and supportive majority, I say a heartfelt THANK YOU for >yours and Marcs efforts to produce what is the best sim magazine around. >May all your laps be hot ones! >Pete >----

Damn straight! It's people like John that make the Web such and enjoyable place to surf. TFW Wakeboarder!!!

PP> If these other guys can't be bothered to PP> download a decent version of netscape then tough! It only took me 1 PP> hour and 8 minutes la st week on my 14400 Sportster. I appreciate John's lack of time, etc for only producing as framed version and thoroughly enjoy SRN now since I got hold of a copy of Netscape (a hell of a lot quicker than you because I didn't ftp it - BBS's are still important!) - but I would prefer not to use NS since it requires Windoze.....and in many ways a native OS/2 product is nicer. Oh yes - and as for the zipped version, tried getting this on a number of occasions and the feed was SO slow I gave up in disgust.....4% after 15 minutes typically!!! But actually your post struck me by the blinkered view it (seemed) to present.....your Netscape assumption is similar to that of people who think the ONLY environment is Windoze and the only wordprocessor Micro$oft Word.....widen your view a little! B-) Cheers! --- * RM 1.3 U0414 * Press any key - nO! nOT ThE cAPSlOcK