Here is a few lines from my ongoing conversation with Sierra....
DO>>DO>C'mon, *PLEASE* release the IndyCar II patch... We know that
DO>>DO>you've been working on it for awhile now and we know that it is
DO>>DO>complete... I was kind of leery when Sierra took over Papyrus,
DO>>DO>but then I started thinking "Aww, they aren't too bad." Please
DO>>DO>don't make me dislike you... When you took them over it was
DO>>DO>supposed to be a good thing, don't make it a bad thing please.
DO>>DO>Please put the patch on the website or e-mail it to me!
DO>>
DO>>DO>Thanks...
DO>>
DO>>Sorry but the patch for Indycar 2 has not been released.
DO>>
DO>>Thanks for your patience.
DO>>Jason/SierraTech
DO>>
DO>Obviously... Any idea when it *WILL* be released?!?! I've been checking the
DO>web page (Papyrus, not Sierra) about every 4 or 5 hours... I'm jumpin out of
DO>my pants waiting for this patch...
DO>Thanks...
ST>Sorry, I don't have a time line for the patch. It should be soon, but
ST>I can't
ST>be more specific in case of an unexpected setback.
ST>Bob /Sierra Tech
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Well, at least now they admit that the patch DOES in fact exist... Question
is, how soon is SOON???
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>Here is a few lines from my ongoing conversation with Sierra.... >DO>>DO>C'mon, *PLEASE* release the IndyCar II patch... We know that >DO>>DO>you've been working on it for awhile now and we know that it is >DO>>DO>complete... I was kind of leery when Sierra took over Papyrus, >DO>>DO>but then I started thinking "Aww, they aren't too bad." Please >DO>>DO>don't make me dislike you... When you took them over it was >DO>>DO>supposed to be a good thing, don't make it a bad thing please. >DO>>DO>Please put the patch on the website or e-mail it to me! >DO>> >DO>>DO>Thanks... >DO>> >DO>>Sorry but the patch for Indycar 2 has not been released. >DO>> >DO>>Thanks for your patience. >DO>>Jason/SierraTech >DO>> >DO>Obviously... Any idea when it *WILL* be released?!?! I've been checking the >DO>web page (Papyrus, not Sierra) about every 4 or 5 hours... I'm jumpin out of >DO>my pants waiting for this patch... >DO>Thanks... >ST>Sorry, I don't have a time line for the patch. It should be soon, but >ST>I can't >ST>be more specific in case of an unexpected setback. >ST>Bob /Sierra Tech >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Well, at least now they admit that the patch DOES in fact exist... Question >is, how soon is SOON??? > /|\ > / |#\ David Otterness > / |##\ Roid Racing > / |###\ #4 Best Buy Monte Carlo > / |####\ #4 Best Buy Penske Mercedes > ----------- Want to talk racing? > \####| / Feel free to e-mail me at: > \##| / Or find me on UnderNet IRC, > \#| / Handle: Roid > \|/Quoted text (53 lines)
>>Here is a few lines from my ongoing conversation with Sierra.... >>DO>>DO>C'mon, *PLEASE* release the IndyCar II patch... We know that >>DO>>DO>you've been working on it for awhile now and we know that it is >>DO>>DO>complete... I was kind of leery when Sierra took over Papyrus, >>DO>>DO>but then I started thinking "Aww, they aren't too bad." Please >>DO>>DO>don't make me dislike you... When you took them over it was >>DO>>DO>supposed to be a good thing, don't make it a bad thing please. >>DO>>DO>Please put the patch on the website or e-mail it to me! >>DO>> >>DO>>DO>Thanks... >>DO>> >>DO>>Sorry but the patch for Indycar 2 has not been released. >>DO>> >>DO>>Thanks for your patience. >>DO>>Jason/SierraTech >>DO>> >>DO>Obviously... Any idea when it *WILL* be released?!?! I've been checking the >>DO>web page (Papyrus, not Sierra) about every 4 or 5 hours... I'm jumpin out of >>DO>my pants waiting for this patch... >>DO>Thanks... >>ST>Sorry, I don't have a time line for the patch. It should be soon, but >>ST>I can't >>ST>be more specific in case of an unexpected setback. >>ST>Bob /Sierra Tech >>--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>Well, at least now they admit that the patch DOES in fact exist... Question >>is, how soon is SOON??? >> /|\ >> / |#\ David Otterness >> / |##\ Roid Racing >> / |###\ #4 Best Buy Monte Carlo >> / |####\ #4 Best Buy Penske Mercedes >> ----------- Want to talk racing? >> \####| / Feel free to e-mail me at: >> \##| / Or find me on UnderNet IRC, >> \#| / Handle: Roid >> \|/ >Well, if you checked this newsgroup in between calls to Sierra, you'd >know that the patch exists. It is going through testing. We hope to >have it online next week. >Ed Martin >Producer, Series Director >NASCAR Racing League >Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.Quoted text (7 lines)
>Well, if you checked this newsgroup in between calls to Sierra, you'd >know that the patch exists. It is going through testing. We hope to >have it online next week. >Ed Martin >Producer, Series Director >NASCAR Racing League >Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.>I know... I'vw known about the patch through you and Rick for a LONG time
>now..
>But up until last week or so, Sierra kept on saying, "Patch, what patch??
>There's no patch for IndyCar Racing II. I don't know what you're talking
>about."
The reason the Sierra techs didn't know about the patch is that the Indy II
team _at Papyrus_ failed to communicate with Sierra, and underestimated the
work to release a patch. The Sierra tech people have done their jobs, but
they were not kept informed.
Sorry, but the guys at Sierra deserve a few apologies.
Papy and Sierra have set up an intranet recently, and people are getting to
know who's who, so I believe there will be better coordination between Papy
and Sierra's tech support in the future.
As for poor product estimates and premature or errant announcements, I
suspect that will continue to plague mankind well into the next century.
Charlie Heath
Papyrus Design Group
> The reason the Sierra techs didn't know about the patch is that the Indy II
> team _at Papyrus_ failed to communicate with Sierra, and underestimated the
> work to release a patch. The Sierra tech people have done their jobs, but
> they were not kept informed.
Atta boy, Charlie. Finally, somebody able to admit that there was a problem,
and take some responsibility for it. Congratulations for being human, and an
employee of a large corporation (been there, done that!).
Neil
--
Meek and obedient you follow the leader
down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel..
Neil Yeatman, Ajax, Ontario, CANADA
