Subject: Re: Hawaii Need new finish

Subject: Re: Hawaii Need new finish Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 23:15:12 GMT

Quoted text (10 lines)

> There is problem with how the races end. Everyone is so >afraid of being hit or hitting someone at the end of a race they stop >right away leaving their car sitting on the track for the guy behind >to hit. Some guys drive off the track on to the grass lose control and >come back on the track right into the cars that are just finishing. I >hate to try and drive a clean race and hit someone after the race is >over because everyone's in a panic to get out of there cars. The >finish has almost become as bad as the starts. What we need is that >the race is over when you cross the finish line or everyone needs to >park in the pits at the end of a race.

I'd say this is second only to cars that don't start right away. It really is an irritating problem and I hope it will be addressed soon! The other day a guy just parked right after the start finish line. You can imagine the mess it caused. Frankly I don't know what the best solution is. Viper

Quoted text (25 lines)

> Subject: Re: Hawaii Need new finish > Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 23:15:12 GMT > > There is problem with how the races end. Everyone is so > >afraid of being hit or hitting someone at the end of a race they stop > >right away leaving their car sitting on the track for the guy behind > >to hit. Some guys drive off the track on to the grass lose control and > >come back on the track right into the cars that are just finishing. I > >hate to try and drive a clean race and hit someone after the race is > >over because everyone's in a panic to get out of there cars. The > >finish has almost become as bad as the starts. What we need is that > >the race is over when you cross the finish line or everyone needs to > >park in the pits at the end of a race. > I'd say this is second only to cars that don't start right away. > It really is an irritating problem and I hope it will be addressed > soon! The other day a guy just parked right after the start finish > line. You can imagine the mess it caused. Frankly I don't know what > the best solution is. > Viper

The best way to finish is just like in the 'real world'. The drivers should run out their lap after they have finished and park in the pit, infront of their pit-area. In the run-out lap rules like in yellow flag situations should be adapted. It is difficult to inform race-sim. players to do it this way, but this is one of the few way's to finish a race in real and in simulation. Marcel Serpent Model Racing Cars

Well, I have only been on Hawaii for about two months. I have this simple question..What does it really matter (not that I like it) that people hit each other after the race is over (I do not do it)? Now I understand that stopping on the finish line is a different story, but if someone hits you in turn 3 after the race is over, what harm have they done? Is it just because you want it to be as real as possible? This is a serious question, I am not poking fun because I really do not like it either... Lee Mills Auburn University Aviation

Quoted text (21 lines)

>Subject: Re: Hawaii Need new finish >Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 23:15:12 GMT >> There is problem with how the races end. Everyone is so >>afraid of being hit or hitting someone at the end of a race they stop >>right away leaving their car sitting on the track for the guy behind >>to hit. Some guys drive off the track on to the grass lose control and >>come back on the track right into the cars that are just finishing. I >>hate to try and drive a clean race and hit someone after the race is >>over because everyone's in a panic to get out of there cars. The >>finish has almost become as bad as the starts. What we need is that >>the race is over when you cross the finish line or everyone needs to >>park in the pits at the end of a race. >I'd say this is second only to cars that don't start right away. >It really is an irritating problem and I hope it will be addressed >soon! The other day a guy just parked right after the start finish >line. You can imagine the mess it caused. Frankly I don't know what >the best solution is. > Viper

Quoted text (8 lines)

> Well, I have only been on Hawaii for about two months. I have this > simple question..What does it really matter (not that I like it) that > people hit each other after the race is over (I do not do it)? Now I > understand that stopping on the finish line is a different story, but > if someone hits you in turn 3 after the race is over, what harm have > they done? Is it just because you want it to be as real as possible? > This is a serious question, I am not poking fun because I really do > not like it either...

All the fuss is because currently (I could be wrong here) these wrecks still count as incidents just like those in the middle of a race. As you probalbly already know, every incident you are involved in, no matter whose fault it is, counts a little against your skill level. Why can't the server just warp you to the pits after you pass the S/F line at the end of a race to solve this once and for all? -- Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/ Hawaii Network UserName: Buschwick

Quoted text (16 lines)

>> Well, I have only been on Hawaii for about two months. I have this >> simple question..What does it really matter (not that I like it) that >> people hit each other after the race is over (I do not do it)? Now I >> understand that stopping on the finish line is a different story, but >> if someone hits you in turn 3 after the race is over, what harm have >> they done? Is it just because you want it to be as real as possible? >> This is a serious question, I am not poking fun because I really do >> not like it either... >All the fuss is because currently (I could be wrong here) these wrecks >still count as incidents just like those in the middle of a race. As you >probalbly already know, every incident you are involved in, no matter whose >fault it is, counts a little against your skill level. >Why can't the server just warp you to the pits after you pass the S/F line >at the end of a race to solve this once and for all?

I don't think post-race incidents count, at least as far as I've been able to tell from analyzing race logs. As usual, the solution is to join a league. In my league, running into another car deliberately at any time, even after the race is over, is grounds for expulsion from the league. That might sound harsh, but if you are looking for total immersion into the "racing experience", even the small details count. Dave "davids" Sparks Sequoia Motorsports

As far as the standings and skill ratings it makes no difference.

Quoted text (42 lines)

> Well, I have only been on Hawaii for about two months. I have this > simple question..What does it really matter (not that I like it) that > people hit each other after the race is over (I do not do it)? Now I > understand that stopping on the finish line is a different story, but > if someone hits you in turn 3 after the race is over, what harm have > they done? Is it just because you want it to be as real as possible? > This is a serious question, I am not poking fun because I really do > not like it either... > Lee Mills > Auburn University Aviation > >Subject: Re: Hawaii Need new finish > >Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 23:15:12 GMT > >> There is problem with how the races end. Everyone is so > >>afraid of being hit or hitting someone at the end of a race they stop > >>right away leaving their car sitting on the track for the guy behind > >>to hit. Some guys drive off the track on to the grass lose control and > >>come back on the track right into the cars that are just finishing. I > >>hate to try and drive a clean race and hit someone after the race is > >>over because everyone's in a panic to get out of there cars. The > >>finish has almost become as bad as the starts. What we need is that > >>the race is over when you cross the finish line or everyone needs to > >>park in the pits at the end of a race. > >I'd say this is second only to cars that don't start right away. > >It really is an irritating problem and I hope it will be addressed > >soon! The other day a guy just parked right after the start finish > >line. You can imagine the mess it caused. Frankly I don't know what > >the best solution is. > > Viper

-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------Chuck Stuart - Mesquite TX USA VBTrace 96 is a runtime Procedure Trace, XRef, Debug, Profiler and much more. Shareware $49. http://www.apexsc.com/vb/ftp/coop/cstuart ftp.apexsc.com/pub/cgvb/coop/cstuart ------------------------------------------------------------------------