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1 post by 1 person · 25 Jun 1996 - 25 Jun 1996

Hi Sim Drivers: Here are a few points I would like to make on some topics I've been seeing. STEERING WHEELS: I used to race WC (World Circuit), with steering help, with my CH flightstick and my TM FCS. When I got ICR 1, I thought the graphics were beautiful, but I couldn't keep the car on the road. The day I purchased my T1, I did a bunch of laps at my favorite tracks, Spa and Imola. I then tried ICR 1, it was a WHOLE NEW GAME. The steering is much nicer, correcting in slides and other subtle movements are easier. That day, WC became shelfware. An on/off switch for gas and breaks is unusable. I've read in this group that Papyrus has over-compensated the keyboard user with some "cheats" that allows better gas and break response than is offered to the person with a steering wheel and gas/brake pedals. Joystick users may be able to use this unfair advantage to make the records, but it feels more realistic, and for me it's more fun, using the wheels and pedals. WAITING FOR F1GP2: I ache for F1GP2 too. As bad as anyone here. But ICR2 is worth a look while we're waiting. There are lots of nice road circuits. I think the "feel" of ICR2 is far superior to WC. The ICR car follows the front tires at slow speeds, where the WC car feels like it is pivoting about the center. The ICR car carries mass, and energy, into a corner which allows for realistic drifting. I have never felt that in WC. I do prefer the F1 tracks to the Indycar tracks, but ICR2 has so much going for it, and great tracks, instead of F1's legendary tracks. I'm not a big fan of oval racing, but I would encourage anybody who feels a moron can drive them to give them a shot. ICR2, however, doesn't have Eau Rouge. ICR YELLOW FLAG BUG I'd like a sim to deliver all the experiences a real driver gets. But there are some things I've never seen in a sim. The sound, vibration, road feed back, G-force, peripheral vision, having beautiful women throw themselves at me, searching for sponsorship, public appearances and interviews. Well add one more to the list, yellow flags, THEY DON'T WORK RIGHT. Big deal, yellow flags are breaks in the action. I find it hard to believe that just turning these off cause this much grief. CUTTING COOKIES I feel I'm missing much more of the racing experience by not having wheel spin properly modeled. When we are at right angles to the track, or backward on the track, after a spin, we should be able to put our foot in it and, with practice, spin the car to point down the track without the car moving much. Spins, and recovering from spins, ARE thrilling, yellow flags are times when the action slows. I'm a big fan of Rick, but I was disappointed when he suggested the solution to this is turning on "Spin Recovery". I don't think that simulates what Michael Andretti does. In the absence of this feature, why are people ***ing about yellow flags? ICR TRACTION Rick, or others, have reported that there is a traction bug on some oval tracks. When I was racing ICR2 on my 486/66 with hight rez, and EVRYTHING turned off, I found the car almost undrivable on all of the tracks, it was on ice. When I got my P6, the traction was much improved. Less than ICR1, but about what I expect with restrictions on wing size. So I think some of the traction problems might be the result of an overtaxed PC. A MODEST PROPOSAL That was the title I placed on a post, cross posted to flight-sim, everyone ignored several months ago. I think there are enough programmers, and interested people with other talents, that we could cobble together a sim of our own. Network play at no hourly cost, Driving models, Yellow flags, 3D accelerators, death rays for that moron that keeps running into you, tracks that look JUST like Daytona, or La Mans, racing on your favorite platform (DOS4GW, WIN95, Linux, supercomputers, Solaris on my dual P6 system), truck and tractor pulls, I remember an arcade racing game that had THREE displays, you name it. As a programmer, this would be a FANTASTIC educational experience. Look at Linux. Papyrus and MicroProse might be smarter than us, but we have them outnumbered. Thanks Larry =========================================================================== Larry "Dragon" Lindstrom. Consultant - Unix - X Window - Comms Three worst things about President Clinton: 3) He's spineless 2) He's dishonest 1) He's the most principled and honorable candidate running for President. (Bob Dole and friends cost us 10,000 times as much in S&L ripoffs)

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