#9 Motion Graphic 771.... Info wanted

I recently ordered a new P166s from Dell (The one with the new S-DRAM and Triton II chipset) The computer is being shipped with a #9 771 Motion Graphics Accelerator w/2mb VRAM. If you have used this card in DOS for simulation games, please respond and tell me how well it works. I'm currently using a P90 with a Diamond EDGE 3-D 4MB VRAM and I have noticed that the EDGE card is great in Win 95, however it is very slow (poor framerates) in DOS games. If the #9 card does well in DOS games, I might just nix the EDGE all together. Sean Alexander http://users.aol.com/cjwright/sean/vette.htm

After giving up on getting any satisfaction from Dell, I just bit the bullet and bought a Matrox Millennium. The touted 771 is very slow in DOS. The MM is slightly better in Windows and dramatically better in DOS. See if you can get Dell to put in the cheapest card available. You're going to want to get a decent DOS card anyway. Or buy Gateway with an MM. Anyone want to buy a 771, cheap? bob

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> After giving up on getting any satisfaction from Dell, I just bit the > bullet and bought a Matrox Millennium. The touted 771 is very slow in > DOS. The MM is slightly better in Windows and dramatically better in DOS. > See if you can get Dell to put in the cheapest card available. You're > going to want to get a decent DOS card anyway. Or buy Gateway with an MM. > Anyone want to buy a 771, cheap? > bob

My 771 VLB card is no better than a Cirrus Logic VLB card. I think there are a few people with 771s for sale. NCR2 this fall will optimize it's code for Pentium technology and 3D cards. I would think the Diamond 3D would have been fine. David Martin

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> I recently ordered a new P166s from Dell (The one with the new S-DRAM and > Triton II chipset) The computer is being shipped with a #9 771 Motion > Graphics Accelerator w/2mb VRAM. If you have used this card in DOS for > simulation games, please respond and tell me how well it works. I'm > currently using a P90 with a Diamond EDGE 3-D 4MB VRAM and I have noticed > that the EDGE card is great in Win 95, however it is very slow (poor > framerates) in DOS games. If the #9 card does well in DOS games, I might > just nix the EDGE all together. > Sean Alexander > http://users.aol.com/cjwright/sean/vette.htm

From all the info I've gathered: DRAM is better for DOS, VRAM is better for windows. I also bought the #9 771 just before getting on-line for first time. If I only knew... Personally, I'm waiting for the "next" generation of 3-D cards to come out. I think there will be a dramatic improvement in them. It looked like there was a "push" for v-card companys to get "a" 3-D card to market recently, hence the lack of a big improvement over 2-D...

There was a 3-D card review on the c-net website recently. I dont know if is still there, but if so, it would be worth a look. As best I remember, it was exactly as stated in an earlier reply, the #9 didn't do real well in DOS. I think the MM was the overall favorite. I think the address is http://www.c-net.com -- Michael Kirton

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>I recently ordered a new P166s from Dell (The one with the new S-DRAM and >Triton II chipset) The computer is being shipped with a #9 771 Motion >Graphics Accelerator w/2mb VRAM. If you have used this card in DOS for >simulation games, please respond and tell me how well it works. I'm >currently using a P90 with a Diamond EDGE 3-D 4MB VRAM and I have noticed >that the EDGE card is great in Win 95, however it is very slow (poor >framerates) in DOS games. If the #9 card does well in DOS games, I might >just nix the EDGE all together. >Sean Alexander >http://users.aol.com/cjwright/sean/vette.htm

C-NET recently had a 3-D Video card test on their website. It was exactly as one of the previous replies indicated, the #9 does not work that well in DOS. I dont know if the test is still up, but if so, its worth a look. http://www.c-net.com -- Michael Kirton

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> I recently ordered a new P166s from Dell (The one with the new S-DRAM and > Triton II chipset) The computer is being shipped with a #9 771 Motion > Graphics Accelerator w/2mb VRAM. If you have used this card in DOS for > simulation games, please respond and tell me how well it works. I'm > currently using a P90 with a Diamond EDGE 3-D 4MB VRAM and I have noticed > that the EDGE card is great in Win 95, however it is very slow (poor > framerates) in DOS games. If the #9 card does well in DOS games, I might > just nix the EDGE all together. > Sean Alexander > http://users.aol.com/cjwright/sean/vette.htmAbout this time last year, I purchased a Dell P120. It also came with

the #9 Motion Graphic 771. After two weeks of frustration with Dell, they agreed to exchange the card for a Diamond Stealth which I have had no problems with. At the time, the 771 was so new, nobody at Dell could diagnose my problems. They also reminded me, their machines are for business, not entertainment, and the 771 worked fine for business applications, which is all they certify it for. I would dump the card (ship it back to Dell) and upgrade to the 3d.

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> I recently ordered a new P166s from Dell (The one with the new S-DRAM and > Triton II chipset) The computer is being shipped with a #9 771 Motion > Graphics Accelerator w/2mb VRAM. If you have used this card in DOS for > simulation games, please respond and tell me how well it works. I'm > currently using a P90 with a Diamond EDGE 3-D 4MB VRAM and I have noticed > that the EDGE card is great in Win 95, however it is very slow (poor > framerates) in DOS games. If the #9 card does well in DOS games, I might > just nix the EDGE all together. > Sean Alexander > http://users.aol.com/cjwright/sean/vette.htm

I have the same Dell p166 computer with 32MB of RAM. I can run ICR2 with all graphics on and NASCAR with asphalt texture off and everything else on. CDBENCH shows 95 fps in VGA and 32.5 fps in SVGA. Chuck Stuart - Mesquite TX USA