RBR: one down, one to go

Hi guys, I just updated the BIOS on my ECS K7S5A/LAN, and it looks like that solved the crash-at-startup problem. Now all that's left is getting the brake pedal to work correctly, and heck, I might even rewire it just to give it a go! ;) Thanks to all the folks who made suggestions, I am pretty hopeful now that a patch might address the split axis problem! cheers & bye for now, uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

Wonder if that DirectX-Tool: DirectX tweaking utility that I cannot remember the name of, (read it posted about on here many moons ago) would fix this for you somehow... Uwe Sch�rkamp wrote:

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> Hi guys, > > I just updated the BIOS on my ECS K7S5A/LAN, and it looks like that > solved the crash-at-startup problem. Now all that's left is getting > the brake pedal to work correctly, and heck, I might even rewire it > just to give it a go! ;) > > Thanks to all the folks who made suggestions, I am pretty hopeful now > that a patch might address the split axis problem! > > cheers & bye for now, > > uwe

"Plowboy2" <stingre.removethis_@yahoo!.removeit> wrote in message news:TaH1d.969$iK2.773@lakeread08... > Wonder if that DirectX-Tool: DirectX tweaking utility that I cannotremember > the name of, (read it posted about on here many moons ago) would fixthis > for you somehow... I strongly suspect that the problem can be solved with a great deal of swearing and hitting things, and quite a bit of playing around with utils like DXtweak ;-) rbr seems to be sponsored by Logitech so while it's no great surprise that all our Momo's work first time, they probably didn't bother to do much testing with any other hardware that can't be plugged into a console. Pity. Remember Uwe, it's always the last thing you try that works, so try that first ;-) Malc.

"Uwe Sch�rkamp" wrote: > Hi guys, > > I just updated the BIOS on my ECS K7S5A/LAN, and it looks like that > solved the crash-at-startup problem. Now all that's left is getting > the brake pedal to work correctly, and heck, I might even rewire it > just to give it a go! ;) Good news. I posted in another thread I rewired my TM Formula Pro to get split axis working. I wonder just how many obsessive hours we spend just to make these things work? Cheers Tony

> rbr seems to be sponsored by Logitech so while it's no great surprise > that all our Momo's work first time, they probably didn't bother to do > much testing with any other hardware that can't be plugged into a > console. Pity. For their sake I hope all the in-game Logitech product placements have nothing to do with the controller setup snafu people are experiencing when pairing with non-Logitech wheels. It boggles the mind that a big-dollar racing game like this could have gone through QA without being tested against an Act-Labs or TSW pedal.

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:42:35 +0100, Malc wrote: > > Remember Uwe, it's always the last thing you try that works, so try that > first ;-) Hehe, well said, Malc ;-) So I went straight for the most work-intensive suggestion and fiddled with the wires on my brake pot, and while it nicely reversed the action of the crosshair in the win98se (still running that, no need to upgrade, remember ;-) joystick calibration tool, it did nothing to help RBR recognize the "correct" movement direction of the brake pedal. However I was fed up enough trying to hack RBR into working on my system that I simply chose the shifter knob on my TSW for braking, and wow, this sim is great. It really feels nice, and I my best stage time at Harwood so far is a 4m04 (sounds strangely familiar to the HTTP error, right? ;-) Anyway, thanks for all your help once more, this truly is a wonderful bunch of people to hang out with! Now back to RBR. (c8 Cheers, uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

"Uwe Sch�rkamp" wrote: > Hehe, well said, Malc ;-) So I went straight for the most > work-intensive suggestion and fiddled with the wires on my brake pot, > and while it nicely reversed the action of the crosshair in the > win98se (still running that, no need to upgrade, remember ;-) joystick > calibration tool, it did nothing to help RBR recognize the "correct" > movement direction of the brake pedal. Would setting up a new device (e.g. custom joystick with 2 axis and rudder pedals or simlar) help?

Are you sure you're configuring the right control setting? theres one called "throttle and brake" for single axis, and separate brake and throttle for split, you have to delete one "Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:42:35 +0100, Malc wrote: >> >> Remember Uwe, it's always the last thing you try that works, so try that >> first ;-) > > Hehe, well said, Malc ;-) So I went straight for the most > work-intensive suggestion and fiddled with the wires on my brake pot, > and while it nicely reversed the action of the crosshair in the > win98se (still running that, no need to upgrade, remember ;-) joystick > calibration tool, it did nothing to help RBR recognize the "correct" > movement direction of the brake pedal. > > However I was fed up enough trying to hack RBR into working on my > system that I simply chose the shifter knob on my TSW for braking, and > wow, this sim is great. It really feels nice, and I my best stage time > at Harwood so far is a 4m04 (sounds strangely familiar to the HTTP > error, right? ;-) > > Anyway, thanks for all your help once more, this truly is a wonderful > bunch of people to hang out with! Now back to RBR. (c8 > > Cheers, > > uwe > > > -- > mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) > Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ > Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) > GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:40:46 -0400, fredrickson wrote: > Are you sure you're configuring the right control setting? theres one called > "throttle and brake" for single axis, and separate brake and throttle for > split, you have to delete one yep, the tsw2 is set up for split axis within RBR. I can see the inputs move on separate axis in the red slider box, it's just that the brake goes from full-on to off as I depress the pedal. Also, there seems to be some flickering connected to the throttle which results the brake being stuck at the half-way point as soon as I tip the throttle pedal. I had the same problem with RT, but that one could be resolved by changing some values in a text .ini file. Cheers, uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

Johannes Climacus <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]:

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>> rbr seems to be sponsored by Logitech so while it's no great surprise >> that all our Momo's work first time, they probably didn't bother to >> do much testing with any other hardware that can't be plugged into a >> console. Pity. > > For their sake I hope all the in-game Logitech product placements have > nothing to do with the controller setup snafu people are experiencing > when pairing with non-Logitech wheels. It boggles the mind that a > big-dollar racing game like this could have gone through QA without > being tested against an Act-Labs or TSW pedal. > >

In fairness my cheapo BRD racer gameport wheel and MS Sidewinder pedals (USB) are both working flawlessly with RBR under Windows XP. So it's not a generic "non logitech" problem. cheers John