Stupid ICR2 Question

Sorry if this is obvious. I've just managed a 179mph lap at Milwaukee and thought I'd see how it compares. On the Records web page, all laps are listed as times, not speeds. How do I get to see my lap time in seconds as opposed to mph? Thanks in anticipation. ------------------------------------------------- Neil Charlton -------------------------------------------------

>Sorry if this is obvious. I've just managed a 179mph lap at Milwaukee >and thought I'd see how it compares. On the Records web page, all laps >are listed as times, not speeds. How do I get to see my lap time in >seconds as opposed to mph? Time (secs) = Track_length(miles) * 3600(secs/hour) / Speed(miles/hour) So your 179 mph lap equates to: 1.0 (miles) 3600 / 179 (mph) = 20.111 secs Dave "davids" Sparks Sequoia Motorsports

> Sorry if this is obvious. I've just managed a 179mph lap at Milwaukee > and thought I'd see how it compares. On the Records web page, all laps > are listed as times, not speeds. How do I get to see my lap time in > seconds as opposed to mph? If you download their Milwaukee setup, which is for a speed lap, not a race setup, you'll see the file is called mil1926.stg, or something like that. Which means, if they name their fast laps the same way I do, that this setup achieved a lap at 196.2mph. And that's fast. The first time I tried it I ran a 185, but I think I can improve on that. Roy

>Sorry if this is obvious. I've just managed a 179mph lap at Milwaukee >and thought I'd see how it compares. On the Records web page, all laps >are listed as times, not speeds. How do I get to see my lap time in >seconds as opposed to mph? take a look at the file TRACKS\MLWAUKEE\RECORDS.TXT. The time is there. It is on the lines marked RACET and RACEP. It's in 1/1000 of seconds, so if your time is 19.620, then those lines will show 19620. I've always seen the same time on both lines, can someone explain why is that? Samppa -- See my homepage for Formula One Shadow Series: http://www.hut.fi/~tax/ "Po-ye-po-lo-mi!"

says... If you know the name of the track you can find out the distance of one lap. With that information and your average speed over the lap you can calculate the the time. SPEED = DISTANCE / TIME or put another way TIME = DISTANCE / SPEED

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>>Sorry if this is obvious. I've just managed a 179mph lap at Milwaukee >>and thought I'd see how it compares. On the Records web page, all laps >>are listed as times, not speeds. How do I get to see my lap time in >>seconds as opposed to mph? >take a look at the file TRACKS\MLWAUKEE\RECORDS.TXT. The time is there. >It is on the lines marked RACET and RACEP. It's in 1/1000 of seconds, >so if your time is 19.620, then those lines will show 19620. >I've always seen the same time on both lines, can someone explain why >is that?

Thanks Samppa, I'm slowly getting there with this amazing sim. Regards ------------------------------------------------- Neil Charlton -------------------------------------------------

: Time (secs) = Track_length(miles) * 3600(secs/hour) / Speed(miles/hour) : So your 179 mph lap equates to: : 1.0 (miles) 3600 / 179 (mph) = 20.111 secs This is 100% true, however, ICR2 does NOT caculate your speed by this formula (or if it does it doesn't use exact track measurements). For example, take your time, as posted in the RECORDS.TXT file. Now open up the TRACK.TXT file (for Atlanta it is ATLANTA.TXT, etc) and obtain the track length. Now use the formula and you will see that the speed you come up with is actually less then what is reported by ICR2. For me, I did roughly a 30.1s lap at Michigan. ICR2 reports that speed as 240.8 or so. If you calculate using the raw numbers, it comes out to be 239.something. I hope this is fixed in The Patch.

->says... ->> ->>Sorry if this is obvious. I've just managed a 179mph lap at Milwaukee ->>and thought I'd see how it compares. On the Records web page, all laps ->>are listed as times, not speeds. How do I get to see my lap time in ->>seconds as opposed to mph? ->> -> What Web page were you looking at? The only one I knowof is the IVGA Fastlaps & Hotlaps. Check http://www.scsn.net/users/ivga/ in the ICR2 Hotlaps section. The record for Mil. is 188mph! Pretty quick! Dallas, Texas Home of the Super Bowl XXX Champions

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>Subject: Stupid ICR2 Question >Date: Thu, 06 Jun 1996 14:53:11 GMT >Sorry if this is obvious. I've just managed a 179mph lap at Milwaukee >and thought I'd see how it compares. On the Records web page, all laps >are listed as times, not speeds. How do I get to see my lap time in >seconds as opposed to mph? >Thanks in anticipation. >------------------------------------------------- >Neil Charlton >-------------------------------------------------

I thought the lap time (in seconds) was displayed on the dash as you cross the start/finish line? Check that, and you won't need your calculator!<g> ________ Eldred Pickett I am NOT paranoid. And why are you always watching me?!?

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>>Subject: Stupid ICR2 Question >>Date: Thu, 06 Jun 1996 14:53:11 GMT >>Sorry if this is obvious. I've just managed a 179mph lap at Milwaukee >>and thought I'd see how it compares. On the Records web page, all laps >>are listed as times, not speeds. How do I get to see my lap time in >>seconds as opposed to mph?

[snip] >I thought the lap time (in seconds) was displayed on the dash as you cross the >start/finish line? Check that, and you won't need your calculator!<g> Eldred, Thanks for the reply. You have me confused with someone who can drive an indy car _and_ look at the dash ;-( I find that really difficult. Also, it doesn't give me anything to refer back to. I guess it's no major problem but it sure is irritating. I would also like to be able to look at a record of all the telemetry for a lap - a bit like the F1 guys do. Maybe this'll come in a later version? I've only been going a few weeks but I must admit that this sim racing is incredible - I would never havebelieved things could be so realistic on a PC. I'm still finding it hard to feel the differences when changing the setup - e.g. changing shocks doesn't seem to make any discernible difference. This is probably due to my inconsistency and my cruddy yoke. I always hit the wall, just in different place each time :-( Thanks again. ------------------------------------------------- Neil Charlton -------------------------------------------------

>Thanks for the reply. You have me confused with someone who can drive >an indy car _and_ look at the dash ;-( I find that really difficult. I know what you mean, but just wait until you've done several hundred (thousand?) laps on a circuit. It's amazing how automatic sections of it can become. You still get bits wrong of course, but my shifting etc is near automatic on Vancouver for instance. You'll soon tell a fast lap by your track position vs what gear you've accelerated into too. This familiarity, when very slight mistakes are losing me my time, allows you a certain amount of time to look around at the dash. I still up-cluck too often though... d8-( Have you tried head-to-head yet? Against somebody of equal skill on a particular track it is even MORE incredible!! I have a wheel and I have noticed my extra tight grip on it several times now. When I first discovered Nazareth I was bouncing around my room after I left the practise session I'd been taking part in (and getting progressively faster in). That was exhilirating to say the least. Stuart -- Stuart Booth Somewhere in Godalming, England, UK

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> >Subject: Stupid ICR2 Question > >Date: Thu, 06 Jun 1996 14:53:11 GMT > >Sorry if this is obvious. I've just managed a 179mph lap at Milwaukee > >and thought I'd see how it compares. On the Records web page, all laps > >are listed as times, not speeds. How do I get to see my lap time in > >seconds as opposed to mph?

Get hold of Mr. Corrigan's EDITRPY utility, available, among other places, at didnt.doit.wisc.edu. It'll show you your lap times to .001 secs from a saved replay ... -- Henrikki (Hena) Hakkanen Tel. +358-(9)0-345 5538 -------------------------------------------------------------- Disclaimer: Opinions expressed here are mine and does not necessarily reflect those of my employer!

[snip] Hena, thanks for the reply. I did just that and it appears to do the business. Hopefully such data will be built into a future version. Regards ------------------------------------------------- Neil Charlton -------------------------------------------------

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>>I thought the lap time (in seconds) was displayed on the dash as you cross the >>start/finish line? Check that, and you won't need your calculator!<g> >Eldred, >Thanks for the reply. You have me confused with someone who can drive >an indy car _and_ look at the dash ;-( I find that really difficult. >Also, it doesn't give me anything to refer back to. I guess it's no >major problem but it sure is irritating. I would also like to be able >to look at a record of all the telemetry for a lap - a bit like the F1 >guys do. Maybe this'll come in a later version? >I've only been going a few weeks but I must admit that this sim racing >is incredible - I would never havebelieved things could be so >realistic on a PC. I'm still finding it hard to feel the differences >when changing the setup - e.g. changing shocks doesn't seem to make >any discernible difference. This is probably due to my inconsistency >and my cruddy yoke. I always hit the wall, just in different place >each time :-( >Thanks again.

Actually, I'd RATHER see the lap speed during a race, but it only shows the time... In practice, you can see both. ________ Eldred Pickett I am NOT paranoid. And why are you always watching me?!?

> What Web page were you looking at? The only one I knowof is the IVGA > Fastlaps & Hotlaps. Check http://www.scsn.net/users/ivga/ in the ICR2 > Hotlaps section. The record for Mil. is 188mph! Pretty quick! Perhaps you should check out http://didnt.doit.wisc.edu/Peter/records/records.htm -- Henrikki (Hena) Hakkanen Tel. +358-(9)0-345 5538 -------------------------------------------------------------- Disclaimer: Opinions expressed here are mine and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer

[snip] I agree. It shouldn't be too hard to add that flexibility I would have thought. Regards ------------------------------------------------- Neil Charlton -------------------------------------------------