IndyCar 2 - new things

I was wondering, since they added the new rule with yellow flags at ovals. Will Papyrus add that patch with their latest patch? IN case you dont know, all the people on the lead lap line up on the inside now, and the people who are down a lap stay on the outside. This adds for some exciting racing as we saw in Milwakee! Al Unser Jr Got burned though.. :) Another add on patch, is the surprising success of the Honda engine, and the Firestone tires.. I'd like the excellence of those tires be upgraded in IC2..

Just an opinion, but I think the yellow flag changes have come a little too late and close to the release date of the patch for us to see them included. I think it must be difficult to mirror the CART season so closely, and some sim fans don't seem to realize the amount of programming it takes to include some of the wish list items that float around in this newsgroup. I would love to see things as realistic as the season itself, but I don't see how Papyrus (Sierra) could do it in the time frame we'd expect them to... TKS

: I was wondering, since they added the new rule with yellow flags at : ovals. Will Papyrus add that patch with their latest patch? [snip] : Another add on patch, is the surprising success of the Honda engine, : and the Firestone tires.. I'd like the excellence of those tires be : upgraded in IC2.. I highly doubt we will see these changes in ICR2 as it is based on 1995 season, not the current season. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

> IN case you dont know, all the people on the lead lap line up on the > inside now, and the people who are down a lap stay on the outside. > This adds for some exciting racing as we saw in Milwakee! Al Unser Jr > Got burned though.. :) This would be a great patch, but it's probably WAY too late to see it in any form in ICR2. Maybe ICR3? Or the patch for ICR2Win.... Judging by the success of Goodyear tires at Milwaukee (finishing 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th) that advantage might not be all that great for the rest of the season. We'll have to wait on it.... -- Meek and obedient you follow the leader down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel.. Neil Yeatman, Ajax, Ontario, CANADA

I (like, ironically, Andretti) don't like the new rule, and I hope it doesn't last too long. It turns the race in to a drag race, which certainly is a "drag" in an IndyCar race. Thats because somebody set up on harder compunds (Unser) doesn't have a chance against somebody running softer compounds. Having a few lapped cars between the lead cars is more "natural" (insofar as anything to do with yellow flags is "natural")- it is, after all, one of your aims if you are ahead of somebody, to get as many lapped cars between you and him as you can. I know that yellows take the space away between cars on the same lap, which is interesting. But taking away lapped cars too, that seems to be pushing it to me. Remember, it is also unfair to the lapped guys too. Who was it... Sneva, I think, at Indy500 trials, said that there would be no problem getting people lapping at 300 MPH with today's technology. We're intentionally holding ourselves back, mostly by removing downforce. I personally would be awed to see cars racing at 300 MPH, but I guess the racers feel it isn't possible to... stay alive long at 300! In that sense, I think ICR2 is pretty good- even with the better tires this year, we'll see less downforce next. Speeds will probably stay pretty near where they are for a long time to come.

>Just an opinion, but I think the yellow flag changes have come a >little too late and close to the release date of the patch for us to >see them included. I think it must be difficult to mirror the CART >season so closely, and some sim fans don't seem to realize the amount >of programming it takes to include some of the wish list items that >float around in this newsgroup. I would like to see variable rules that could be set. Why not just have a preference called "Yellow flag style"? Randy

I would like to see variable rules that could be set. Why not just have a preference called "Yellow flag style"? You can do this if you exit and save the game. Restart at the same track, from the previous game. Although the cars will be single file, they will be ordered based on position and current lap - ex: Lead lap, 1 lap down, 2 laps down, etc. I like the old method of restarts better in both the game and real life. If a faster car can get past some of the "moving chicanes" in the pack of slower cars, that effort should be recognized. The old method also rewards teams that can make faster pit stops. IndyCar admits they are making these new rules for entertainment value. It seems to clash with traditional racing tradition. Hmmm... and these are the guys upset over the INDY 500 25/33 qualifying rule. M. Scott Check out the SWISS ARMY PAGE - Auto Racing & Weather together, *** trickle, Comix, & more! http://www2.***nex.net/~msc7/

>Subject: IndyCar 2 - new things >Date: Tue, 04 Jun 1996 04:24:30 GMT >IN case you dont know, all the people on the lead lap line up on the >inside now, and the people who are down a lap stay on the outside. >This adds for some exciting racing as we saw in Milwakee! Al Unser Jr >Got burned though.. :) I was surprised that Al Jr. said the rule was good for the fans, even though he DID get hosed... Even Michael admitted that he won because of the rule...WOW. ________ Eldred Pickett I am NOT paranoid. And why are you always watching me?!?