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How and Where to get INDY!!!

10 posts by 8 people · 03 Jun 1996 - 23 Jun 1996

Ok, here goes! There was a new software bundle released, called "Racing's greatest thrills" or something, with the picture of the nose of Adrian Fernandez's car on the front. Not only does it have a load of stuff, it contains THE COMPLETE TRACK PACK!! Schweet, huh? Anyway.. I'm now enjoying Indy... -Jester
Ed Martin 08 Jun 1996#321282
>Ok, here goes! >There was a new software bundle released, called "Racing's greatest thrills" or something, with the picture of the nose of Adrian Fernandez's >car on the front. Not only does it have a load of stuff, it contains THE COMPLETE TRACK PACK!! >Schweet, huh? >Anyway.. I'm now enjoying Indy... >-Jester I'll verify this on Monday, but I do not believe that Indy is included in the "Racing's Greatest Thrills" bundle. Part of our agreement with IMS is that the track needed to be sold separately. It does, however, include the "7 Track Pack" for IndyCar 1.x and all of the tracks from IndyCar Racing 1.x... I'm pretty sure IMS is not there, though. If anyone else can prove me wrong before I get back in the office on Monday, please comment. I hope it is there! Ed Martin Producer, Series Director NASCAR Racing League Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.
amde.. 08 Jun 1996#321283
Ed Martin is correct. "Racing's Greatest Thrills" does not contain the indy track pack. It does have indycar 1 and the additional 7 tracks, and a couple of other games, and a demo of icr2 and nascar, but no indy track. I almost bought it because I wanted to convert the indy track to use with icr2, but luckily I asked the salesperson at computer city and he told me that it does not have it. Nowhere on the box does it mention the indy track. The 7 additional tracks are tracks other than indy. The box is also misleading, because it implies that the bundle also has a complete version of icr2 and nascar, but in fine print on the back, it says something like an enhanced version, which is a demo.
Quoted text (15 lines)>I'll verify this on Monday, but I do not believe that Indy is included >in the "Racing's Greatest Thrills" bundle. Part of our agreement with >IMS is that the track needed to be sold separately. It does, however, >include the "7 Track Pack" for IndyCar 1.x and all of the tracks from >IndyCar Racing 1.x... I'm pretty sure IMS is not there, though. >If anyone else can prove me wrong before I get back in the office on >Monday, please comment. >I hope it is there! >Ed Martin >Producer, Series Director >NASCAR Racing League >Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.
Quoted text (19 lines)>>Ok, here goes! >>There was a new software bundle released, called "Racing's greatest thrills" or something, with the picture of the nose of Adrian Fernandez's >>car on the front. Not only does it have a load of stuff, it contains THE COMPLETE TRACK PACK!! >>Schweet, huh? >>Anyway.. I'm now enjoying Indy... >>-Jester >I'll verify this on Monday, but I do not believe that Indy is included >in the "Racing's Greatest Thrills" bundle. Part of our agreement with >IMS is that the track needed to be sold separately. It does, however, >include the "7 Track Pack" for IndyCar 1.x and all of the tracks from >IndyCar Racing 1.x... I'm pretty sure IMS is not there, though. >If anyone else can prove me wrong before I get back in the office on >Monday, please comment.
Well, this is kind of on the same wavelength. I was looking at some web pages last night and I came accross this quote: "Due to the National Information Infrostructure Copyright act of 1995,(NIIC), Software in which the copyright is older than 2 years and is no longer sold on the market has been deemed available free to the public, due to 'the seemingly uselessness of outdated technology as stated in the (NIIC)'". Now, if this is true, and the copyright is in 1993 or early 1994 for the Expansion Pack, people can legally put this on their website for downloading Rick??? Ed??? /|\ / |#\ David Otterness / |##\ Roid Racing / |###\ #4 Best Buy Monte Carlo / |####\ #4 Best Buy Penske Mercedes ----------- Want to talk racing? \####| / Feel free to e-mail me at: \##| / Or find me on UnderNet IRC, \#| / Handle: Roid \|/
Tony Joh 09 Jun 1996#321353
On 8 Jun 1996 10:26:46 -0700, David Otterness sent shooting through ***space: David -- I think I can answer this. Papyrus' copyright may have expired due to the terms of software copyright law (I am not sure about this), but the issue at stake is not Papyrus software copyright, but their licensing agreement with Indianapolis Motor Speedway -- which does not fall under the terms of that quote. -- IWCCCARS Project Coordinator http://www.xmission.com/~iwcc/project.htm Hawaii Racer ID: IWCCCARS
Whatbra 10 Jun 1996#321453
Ok , I give up I am sick of looking for this add-on. I can live without INDY but, and this is a big but , I REALLY want the paintkit the comes with it. Is there any way Papyrus can let us have it. I was really upset that it was not on the CD-ROM I bought last fall. The only reason I bought ICR1 was because I loved Nascar and figured maybe this was as much fun. Well is wasn't because I couldn't let my creative juices flow. I know I should buy ICR2 and I will get the paintkit but for now I would like to use ICR1 just to learn about how to set up an IndyCar.How about it, I can't imagine that IMS owns the rights to paintkits do they? Gene
Chuck Stuar 15 Jun 1996#322004
Quoted text (22 lines)> On 8 Jun 1996 10:26:46 -0700, David Otterness sent shooting through > ***space: > >Well, this is kind of on the same wavelength. I was looking at some > >web pages last night and I came accross this quote: > >"Due to the National Information Infrostructure Copyright act of 1995,(NIIC), > >Software in which the copyright is older than 2 years and is no longer sold > >on the market has been deemed available free to the public, due to > >'the seemingly uselessness of outdated technology as stated in the (NIIC)'". > >Now, if this is true, and the copyright is in 1993 or early 1994 for the > >Expansion Pack, people can legally put this on their website for downloading > >Rick??? Ed??? > David -- > I think I can answer this. Papyrus' copyright may have expired due to > the terms of software copyright law (I am not sure about this), but > the issue at stake is not Papyrus software copyright, but their > licensing agreement with Indianapolis Motor Speedway -- which does not > fall under the terms of that quote.
How can you license a product on which the copyright has expired? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chuck Stuart - Mesquite TX USA VBTrace 96 is a runtime Procedure Trace, XRef, Debug, Profiler and much more. Shareware $49. http://www.apexsc.com/vb/ftp/coop/cstuart ftp.apexsc.com/pub/cgvb/coop/cstuart ------------------------------------------------------------------------
But the expansion pack is still available on the market, or at least until a few weeks ago. So, the "and is no longer sold on the market" has not yet expired as several distrinutors have it in stock, but not being sold as to no retailers ordering it. Chris
Ed Martin 16 Jun 1996#322092
Quoted text (31 lines)>> On 8 Jun 1996 10:26:46 -0700, David Otterness sent shooting through >> ***space: >> >Well, this is kind of on the same wavelength. I was looking at some >> >web pages last night and I came accross this quote: >> >"Due to the National Information Infrostructure Copyright act of 1995,(NIIC), >> >Software in which the copyright is older than 2 years and is no longer sold >> >on the market has been deemed available free to the public, due to >> >'the seemingly uselessness of outdated technology as stated in the (NIIC)'". >> >Now, if this is true, and the copyright is in 1993 or early 1994 for the >> >Expansion Pack, people can legally put this on their website for downloading >> >Rick??? Ed??? >> David -- >> I think I can answer this. Papyrus' copyright may have expired due to >> the terms of software copyright law (I am not sure about this), but >> the issue at stake is not Papyrus software copyright, but their >> licensing agreement with Indianapolis Motor Speedway -- which does not >> fall under the terms of that quote. >How can you license a product on which the copyright has expired? >-- >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Chuck Stuart - Mesquite TX USA >VBTrace 96 is a runtime Procedure Trace, XRef, >Debug, Profiler and much more. Shareware $49. >http://www.apexsc.com/vb/ftp/coop/cstuart >ftp.apexsc.com/pub/cgvb/coop/cstuart >------------------------------------------------------------------------
The license is not the software, the license is for the track itself & the organization which owns the track. Ed Martin Producer, Series Director NASCAR Racing League Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.
Chuck Stuar 23 Jun 1996#323059
Must you always dash my hopes on the rocks of reality? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chuck Stuart - Mesquite TX USA VBTrace 96 is a runtime Procedure Trace, XRef, Debug, Profiler and much more. Shareware $49. http://www.apexsc.com/vb/ftp/coop/cstuart ftp.apexsc.com/pub/cgvb/coop/cstuart ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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