to ED MARTIN (hawaii's future?)

Ed, What type of system is Papyrus envisioning for Hawaii? I'm sure everyone would be willing to "pay to play" but these phone bills are ***. Will the actual system allow connection through a local phone #?

At E3 last month, we announced the future for Hawaii... NASCAR has sanctioned us as their 13th & newest division -- the NASCAR Racing League. "Hawaii" is the prototype for NRL. NRL will use NASCAR Racing 2 which is due out this Christmas. It will feature the user pickup races & user created series races that Hawaii now offers. It will also feature fully sanctioned NRL series races. Without getting into all of the details, NRL series will be as close to the other 12 NASCAR divisions as possible Users will actually join NASCAR & become licensed drivers. NRL series will be run like Winston Cup We ave not announced specifics about NRL yet... like pricing, release date, "how to connect", etc. However, you can feel pretty confident that we will have local access number for everyone. The complete press release for NRL & NASCAR Racing 2 can be found at NASCAR.COM & SIERRA.COM. Ed Martin Producer, Series Director NASCAR Racing League Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.

Please don't leave Dayton OH off your list of local access numbers!

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>==========Ed Martin, 6/3/96========== >>Ed, >>What type of system is Papyrus envisioning for Hawaii? I'm sure >everyone >>would be willing to "pay to play" but these phone bills are >***. Will >>the actual system allow connection through a local phone #? >At E3 last month, we announced the future for Hawaii... NASCAR has >sanctioned us as their 13th & newest division -- the NASCAR Racing >League. "Hawaii" is the prototype for NRL. >NRL will use NASCAR Racing 2 which is due out this Christmas. It will >feature the user pickup races & user created series races that Hawaii >now offers. It will also feature fully sanctioned NRL series races. >Without getting into all of the details, NRL series will be as close >to the other 12 NASCAR divisions as possible Users will actually join >NASCAR & become licensed drivers. NRL series will be run like Winston >Cup >We ave not announced specifics about NRL yet... like pricing, release >date, "how to connect", etc. However, you can feel pretty confident >that we will have local access number for everyone. >The complete press release for NRL & NASCAR Racing 2 can be found at >NASCAR.COM & SIERRA.COM. >Ed Martin >Producer, Series Director >NASCAR Racing League >Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.

> Please don't leave Dayton OH off your list of local access numbers! > Will there be 800 #'s for those areas without local access numbers and if not will you be charging those people hourly rates on top of there LD charges? Chuck Norton

>> Please don't leave Dayton OH off your list of local access numbers! >> Will there be 800 #'s for those areas without local access numbers and if >not will you be charging those people hourly rates on top of there LD >charges? >Chuck Norton Again, I can't get into specifics, but we will most likely be using some other ISP's network backbone. Therefore, the location of local access numbers and the availability of an 800 substitute (and the surcharge for any 800 number) is a function of the ISP. With that said, I think you'll be OK in Dayton. Ed Martin Producer, Series Director NASCAR Racing League Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.

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>>not will you be charging those people hourly rates on top of there LD >>charges? >>Chuck Norton >Again, I can't get into specifics, but we will most likely be using >some other ISP's network backbone. Therefore, the location of local >access numbers and the availability of an 800 substitute (and the >surcharge for any 800 number) is a function of the ISP. >With that said, I think you'll be OK in Dayton. >Ed Martin >Producer, Series Director >NASCAR Racing League >Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.

Alright Ed. Now the real question. WHEN??!! How has the Beta test been going? Are there still bugs with mulitplayer, or are you still trying to work out details with the ISV (they can be a *** huh?)?? I'm not sure how much longer I can spend $150 a month to run this deal. PLEASE GIVE US A HINT OF A DATE. Mike (Parnelli)

shooting through ***space: Yeah, Ed, but will I be okay in Utah? :-) (Hoping that the ISP doesn't still have 2400 baud as their highest throughput) -- IWCCCARS Project Coordinator http://www.xmission.com/~iwcc/project.htm Hawaii Racer ID: IWCCCARS

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>>Again, I can't get into specifics, but we will most likely be using >>some other ISP's network backbone. Therefore, the location of local >>access numbers and the availability of an 800 substitute (and the >>surcharge for any 800 number) is a function of the ISP. >Yeah, Ed, but will I be okay in Utah? :-) >(Hoping that the ISP doesn't still have 2400 baud as their highest >throughput)

And I'm hoping the ISP isn't netcom or webcom... /===================================================\

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| John Simmons (Redneck Techno-Biker) | | http://www2.connectnet.com/users/jms/index.html | |===================================================| | IGN #12 Zerex American Eagle Motorsports Ford | | http://www2.connectnet.com/users/jms/aemmain.html | | Hawaii NickName - AEMwest | |===================================================| | 93 FLSTC - 54,000 miles and counting | | Harley Scum Biker (tm) #14 |

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>>>Again, I can't get into specifics, but we will most likely be using >>>some other ISP's network backbone. Therefore, the location of local >>>access numbers and the availability of an 800 substitute (and the >>>surcharge for any 800 number) is a function of the ISP. >>Yeah, Ed, but will I be okay in Utah? :-) >>(Hoping that the ISP doesn't still have 2400 baud as their highest >>throughput) >And I'm hoping the ISP isn't netcom or webcom...

If I remember correctly, The Imagination Network is owned by Sierra. Papyrus is now part of Sierra. Wouldn't it be just as easy to switch over or add a couple of dialups INN has in each city to dial Hawaii instead? BTW, any chance that you can add a chalkboard or something on the bottom of the screen during replays to show lap speed and position? Certainly would help when replaying multi races from Hawaii. David Range

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>/===================================================\ >| John Simmons (Redneck Techno-Biker) | >| http://www2.connectnet.com/users/jms/index.html | >|===================================================| >| IGN #12 Zerex American Eagle Motorsports Ford | >| http://www2.connectnet.com/users/jms/aemmain.html | >| Hawaii NickName - AEMwest | >|===================================================| >| 93 FLSTC - 54,000 miles and counting | >| Harley Scum Biker (tm) #14 | >\===================================================/

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>writes: >>>> Please don't leave Dayton OH off your list of local access numbers! >>>> Will there be 800 #'s for those areas without local access numbers >and if >>>not will you be charging those people hourly rates on top of there LD >>>charges? >>>Chuck Norton >>Again, I can't get into specifics, but we will most likely be using >>some other ISP's network backbone. Therefore, the location of local >>access numbers and the availability of an 800 substitute (and the >>surcharge for any 800 number) is a function of the ISP. >>With that said, I think you'll be OK in Dayton. >>Ed Martin >>Producer, Series Director >>NASCAR Racing League >>Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc. >Alright Ed. Now the real question. WHEN??!! How has the Beta test been >going? Are there still bugs with mulitplayer, or are you still trying >to work out details with the ISV (they can be a *** huh?)?? I'm not >sure how much longer I can spend $150 a month to run this deal. >PLEASE GIVE US A HINT OF A DATE. >Mike (Parnelli)

The testing has been going very very well from our perspective... but you need to understand that Hawaii is just a prototye for the NASCAR Racing League. What we learn here will be used to perfect NASCAR 2 & the infrastructure for NRL. A date? I think it's fair to say that NRL will probably not ship in the box with NASCAR 2 this November (don't worry, it will be a free upgrade for people who buy NASCAR 2). I don't mean to be evasive, but I don't even know the date, & I'm the Producer for the project! That date is contingent on signing up with our network provider. Best guess I can give you for NRL is "sometime in 1997". Sorry. :-( Ed Martin Producer, Series Director NASCAR Racing League Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.

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>shooting through ***space: >>Again, I can't get into specifics, but we will most likely be using >>some other ISP's network backbone. Therefore, the location of local >>access numbers and the availability of an 800 substitute (and the >>surcharge for any 800 number) is a function of the ISP. >>With that said, I think you'll be OK in Dayton. >Yeah, Ed, but will I be okay in Utah? :-) >(Hoping that the ISP doesn't still have 2400 baud as their highest >throughput) >-- >IWCCCARS Project Coordinator >http://www.xmission.com/~iwcc/project.htm >Hawaii Racer ID: IWCCCARS

Tony- Is anybody OK in Utah? Just Kidding. Wish I could live at Snowbird or Alta. SeeYa Mike

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>shooting through ***space: >>Again, I can't get into specifics, but we will most likely be using >>some other ISP's network backbone. Therefore, the location of local >>access numbers and the availability of an 800 substitute (and the >>surcharge for any 800 number) is a function of the ISP. >>With that said, I think you'll be OK in Dayton. >Yeah, Ed, but will I be okay in Utah? :-) >(Hoping that the ISP doesn't still have 2400 baud as their highest >throughput) >-- >IWCCCARS Project Coordinator >http://www.xmission.com/~iwcc/project.htm >Hawaii Racer ID: IWCCCARS

Hopefully, it will even play in Peoria! Ed Martin Producer, Series Director NASCAR Racing League Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.

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>>>>Again, I can't get into specifics, but we will most likely be using >>>>some other ISP's network backbone. Therefore, the location of local >>>>access numbers and the availability of an 800 substitute (and the >>>>surcharge for any 800 number) is a function of the ISP. >>>Yeah, Ed, but will I be okay in Utah? :-) >>>(Hoping that the ISP doesn't still have 2400 baud as their highest >>>throughput) >>And I'm hoping the ISP isn't netcom or webcom... >If I remember correctly, The Imagination Network is owned by Sierra. >Papyrus is now part of Sierra. Wouldn't it be just as easy to switch >over or add a couple of dialups INN has in each city to dial Hawaii >instead? >BTW, any chance that you can add a chalkboard or something on the >bottom of the screen during replays to show lap speed and position? >Certainly would help when replaying multi races from Hawaii. >David Range >>/===================================================\ >>| John Simmons (Redneck Techno-Biker) | >>| http://www2.connectnet.com/users/jms/index.html | >>|===================================================| >>| IGN #12 Zerex American Eagle Motorsports Ford | >>| http://www2.connectnet.com/users/jms/aemmain.html | >>| Hawaii NickName - AEMwest | >>|===================================================| >>| 93 FLSTC - 54,000 miles and counting | >>| Harley Scum Biker (tm) #14 | >>\===================================================/

Correction, INN WAS owned by Sierra. We sold it to AT&T almost 2 years ago. Currently, INN utilizes a combination of SprintNet & a proprietary AT&T network. Neither of which is low latency (at least low enough latency for NRL). INN has announced that they are moving to an "open" internet architecture & showed their new interface at E3 last month. That doesn't help latency... it just makes it worse. With all of that said, given Sierra's relationship with INN, they are one of the providers we are talking to. Ed Martin Producer, Series Director NASCAR Racing League Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.

So we'll be paying LD charges until "sometime in 1997"? Not good. Oh well... Mike

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>>If I remember correctly, The Imagination Network is owned by Sierra. >>Papyrus is now part of Sierra. Wouldn't it be just as easy to switch >>over or add a couple of dialups INN has in each city to dial Hawaii >>instead? >>BTW, any chance that you can add a chalkboard or something on the >>bottom of the screen during replays to show lap speed and position? >>Certainly would help when replaying multi races from Hawaii. >>David Range >Correction, INN WAS owned by Sierra. We sold it to AT&T almost 2 >years ago.

Geez, I'd hate to see what AT&T did to it. Thanks for the info. I was unsure if INN had been sold, but it seemed a good guess if it hadn't. :) Any chance that you will be adding the "chalkboard" in replays? It'd be a great help when tormenting a friend over a Hawaii race! <G> Or crying over running out of gas on the next to last lap at Atlanta when you're 5 seconds ahead of the 2nd place car, going for your first win! ARGGGHHHHH! David Range Hawaii- "DJR" David Range

Please include Washington, PA too!! Don Clawson DonC - Hawaii

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> Please don't leave Dayton OH off your list of local access numbers! > >==========Ed Martin, 6/3/96========== > >>Ed, > >>What type of system is Papyrus envisioning for Hawaii? <snipped> However, you can feel pretty confident > >that we will have local access number for everyone. > >The complete press release for NRL & NASCAR Racing 2 can be found at > >NASCAR.COM & SIERRA.COM. > >Ed Martin > >Producer, Series Director > >NASCAR Racing League > >Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.

>A date? I think it's fair to say that NRL will probably not ship in >the box with NASCAR 2 this November (don't worry, it will be a free >upgrade for people who buy NASCAR 2). Hey! "with NASCAR 2 this November" ... A date for NCR2!!!!! So, same plan as every year then. Game comes out in the US before the UK, I sift through hundreds of posts about the game, it arrives through my letter box 2 wks before Xmas, just before I go home for a holiday! Stuart -- Stuart Booth Somewhere in Godalming, England, UK

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> >>With that said, I think you'll be OK in Dayton. > >Yeah, Ed, but will I be okay in Utah? :-) > Hopefully, it will even play in Peoria! > Ed Martin > Producer, Series Director > NASCAR Racing League > Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.

What about australia ??? :)