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Alan Kulwicki Car?

18 posts by 17 people · 01 Jun 1996 - 21 Jul 1996

Tim Henni 01 Jun 1996#320642
Has anyone created an Alan Kulwicki car for NASCAR RAcing? If so, could you E-Mail it to me? Thanx! -Tim Hennies "Pay no mind to us, we're just a minor threat!" "Racing is a part of me, it's in my ***."
TELLALLB 13 Jun 1996#321808
you can get it off off nascar secrets and strategies cd available at better computer stores......
Jeff 13 Jun 1996#321809
Does Overclocking work? I just read about it in June Sim Racing News and am interested in moving my P75 to a P90. Jeff
Eric Gile 13 Jun 1996#321810
> Does Overclocking work? I just read about it in June Sim Racing News and > am interested in moving my P75 to a P90. Jeff I had overclocked my system from 75MHz to 90MHz before I upgraded it. The CPU had a large heatsink, and a fan was mounted to the front of the case keeping it cool. I ran mine like this for about 6 months with no problems whatsoever. It did slightly increase my frame rate in ICR2 and NASCAR, as well as providing better overall performance. I don't know what features your motherboard has, but my original did not have a Triton chipset or pipeline burst cache. When I upgraded to a Tyan Titan III, it made an even better improvement. I would try it if I were you, just be sure your CPU had a fan and a heatsink (some heatsink compound wouldn't hurt either). Hope this helps... Eric Giles
Scurvyd 14 Jun 1996#321919
>Does Overclocking work? I just read about it in June Sim Racing News and >am interested in moving my P75 to a P90. Jeff Well to put in race sim terms its like setting your high gear short, you'll run faster but playing with fire in the long run. IMHO the risk aint worth it for the small increase. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MP Scurvydog #00 Simpson-Cowlings Motorsports http://pages.prodigy.com/Scurvy/index.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I tried it with my p120 to a p133 and it didnt work...every thing i try to play (indycar2, duke3d) and win95 would crash almost immediately...i dont know if thats because we need to change something in the bios setting but it didnt work
I have a P-133 that I bought for $210 and I'm running at 200Mhz. Now I don't know what price the P-200 will be, but I'm getting a HUGE increase in performance, which is matched only by the HUGE amount of money I've saved. It's not worth it.......? Cheers! John _________________________________ __ _____| |_____ __ _________| |__| :| John Wallace | |__| |_________ \ :| |::| :| Team WW Racing TSW | |::| | / > :| |::| :|_________________________________| |::| | < / :|__|::|____:/ Sim Racing News \.____|::|__| \ /_______:/ \::/ http://sneezy.dcn.ed.ac.uk/simnews/index.htm\::/ \._______\
Quoted text (12 lines)> >Does Overclocking work? I just read about it in June Sim Racing News and > >am interested in moving my P75 to a P90. Jeff > Well to put in race sim terms its like setting your high gear short, > you'll run faster but playing with fire in the long run. IMHO the > risk aint worth it for the small increase. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > MP > Scurvydog #00 Simpson-Cowlings Motorsports > http://pages.prodigy.com/Scurvy/index.htm > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~I have my P90 running at 120Mhz. It works fine, but as MP wrote, it is a
risk to take. However, I would say that if your processor has a fan either on it or blowing right at it, the temperature will be kept low enough to avoid damage to the processor. Torgeir
> Does Overclocking work? I just brought my P75 up to a P90, works great. I tried for 100MHz but things started acting flaky. Still, I can run NFS on medium graphics now, and for free!
Quoted text (15 lines)>> >Does Overclocking work? I just read about it in June Sim Racing News and >> >am interested in moving my P75 to a P90. Jeff >> Well to put in race sim terms its like setting your high gear short, >> you'll run faster but playing with fire in the long run. IMHO the >> risk aint worth it for the small increase. >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> MP >I have my P90 running at 120Mhz. It works fine, but as MP wrote, it is a >risk to take. However, I would say that if your processor has a fan >either on it or blowing right at it, the temperature will be kept low >enough to avoid damage to the processor. >Torgeir
Well, I have a p5-60 and am thinking about doing it to a 75 or 90... so you're saying that if I have a regular fan blowing on it woth the cover off it shouldn't mess up?? right now I'm using a towel as a cover as it is... /|\ / |#\ David Otterness / |##\ Roid Racing / |###\ #4 Best Buy Monte Carlo / |####\ #4 Best Buy Penske Mercedes ----------- Want to talk racing? \####| / Feel free to e-mail me at: \##| / Or find me on UnderNet IRC, \#| / Handle: Roid \|/
Double Clut 19 Jun 1996#322622
says...
Quoted text (10 lines)>>Well to put in race sim terms its like setting your high gear short, >>you'll run faster but playing with fire in the long run. IMHO the >>risk aint worth it for the small increase. >I have a P-133 that I bought for $210 and I'm running at 200Mhz. Now I >don't know what price the P-200 will be, but I'm getting a HUGE increase >in performance, which is matched only by the HUGE amount of money I've >saved. >It's not worth it.......?
You are shortening the life of your processor, by how much I can't say. But if the chip could sustain 200mhz for extended periods, don't you think Intel would have marked it as a 200 and sold it that way? Any money you think you're saving will be cancelled out when your pentium fails.
writes A Pentium 200 is currently worth hundreds of dollars. When my "P200" fails in about three years it will be worth buttons, and quite frankly I won't give a damn. Overclocking is about saving money NOW on overpriced high-spec CPUs. No-one gives a damn about a P60 these days, what does it matter if it fails? As for Intel marking it as 200 and selling it that way, you don't know much about marketing do you? For example, at the time my chip was sold, Intel hadn't even released the P166!! How could they mark mine as a P200 and sell it when that wasn't a product? It depends upon market demand, product strategy, competitor market position/pricing and their production yield. It isn't as simple as "can make it, will sell it". Cheers! John _________________________________ __ _____| |_____ __ _________| |__| :| John Wallace | |__| |_________ \ :| |::| :| Team WW Racing TSW | |::| | / > :| |::| :|_________________________________| |::| | < / :|__|::|____:/ Sim Racing News \.____|::|__| \ /_______:/ \::/ http://sneezy.dcn.ed.ac.uk/simnews/index.htm\::/ \._______\
Pete 26 Jun 1996#323443
How does Intel test the maximum speed of a chip, anyway? I thought they wound it up to the highest speed it would run before errors started appearing. If they base it on the highest speed it will run before it self-destucts, how do they know? All pentium chips are the same off the production line until they do the speed test, surely? It reminds me of the joke about the idiot tester in a match factory : <scrrittch> Yup, that one works. <scrrittch> Yup, that one works. <scrrittch> Yup....... Pete ----
Quoted text (15 lines)>>You are shortening the life of your processor, by how much I can't say. But if >>the chip could sustain 200mhz for extended periods, don't you think Intel would >>have marked it as a 200 and sold it that way? Any money you think you're saving >>will be cancelled out when your pentium fails. > How does Intel test the maximum speed of a chip, anyway? I thought they wound it up to > the highest speed it would run before errors started appearing. If they base it on > the highest speed it will run before it self-destucts, how do they know? All pentium > chips are the same off the production line until they do the speed test, surely? > It reminds me of the joke about the idiot tester in a match factory : > <scrrittch> Yup, that one works. > <scrrittch> Yup, that one works. > <scrrittch> Yup.......
Well, not quite. If Intel tests parts in the same manner that IBM does (and they do), they run the part through a block of assembly code, at the fastest speed, at the lowest voltage the part is rated for -- let's say 200 MHz. If the results from that code are as expected, it's stamped as a 200 Mhz part; if not, they try it again at 180 MHz (or whatever) and go right down the line until they find a speed that it works at. The test only lasts about ten seconds, but it designed to test the worst case conditions that can arise in the transitor timing. The chip doesn't explode if it's a fail, it just returns a '0' somewhere when it was supposed to return a '1'. That's why overclocking chips works -- usually. You don't get necessarily get a fail because you don't necessarily run the code that causes the chips worst-case timing condition. But you might . . . Running at a higher frequency means the chip draws more current, which means it will end-of-life sooner. How much sooner? Probably not that much sooner. It's much worse if you raise the voltage you're applying to the part as well as raising the frequency. Overclocking your chip may produce unpredictable results, though. For instance, the IBM 6x86 (same chip as the Cyrix 6x86) I use is rated at 120 Mhz, but I run it at 133 for Nascar Racing without a problem. But if I want to log in to my work account with a home terminal program, I need to switch back to 120. Weird, but true. The part isn't guaranteed at 133 MHz, so I don't complain. YMMV. Doug
Jeff Fly 28 Jun 1996#323725
Quoted text (19 lines)>>You are shortening the life of your processor, by how much I can't say. But >>if the chip could sustain 200mhz for extended periods, don't you think Intel >>would have marked it as a 200 and sold it that way? Any money you think >>you're saving will be cancelled out when your pentium fails. >How does Intel test the maximum speed of a chip, anyway? I thought they wound >it up to the highest speed it would run before errors started appearing. If >they base it on the highest speed it will run before it self-destucts, how do >they know? All pentium chips are the same off the production line until they >do the speed test, surely? >It reminds me of the joke about the idiot tester in a match factory : ><scrrittch> Yup, that one works. ><scrrittch> Yup, that one works. ><scrrittch> Yup....... >Pete >----
Intel are going to put a hologram on their chips to prevent unscrupulous resellers scraping the designated speed off and over clocking the processor All chips were not created the same! and have a limited life at the over clocked speed.
Karl Rau 01 Jul 1996#324117
I've been reading with interest the sections on overclocking and I've decided to give it a go. My question is, my MB is only rated up to a P133 (which I now have) and I was wondering if I can overclock to say a 150 or 166? Thanks in advance. Karl Team 'Dobe'
John Smith 15 Jul 1996#326167
Quoted text (8 lines)> I've been reading with interest the sections on overclocking and I've >decided to give it a go. My question is, my MB is only rated up to a >P133 (which I now have) and I was wondering if I can overclock to say >a 150 or 166? > Thanks in advance. > Karl > Team 'Dobe'
Usually, the only barrier in overclocking a comp is what the motherboard can handle, if your motherboard can only do what your cpu is at now, i wouldn't suggest trying it.
Kris Josh 21 Jul 1996#327661
Is it wise to overclock your computer? Won't the microprocessor burn out?

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