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GP2 - Can I really use a joystick?

9 posts by 8 people · 24 May 1996 - 31 May 1996

I was wondering how the car in GP2 will respond if I am playing with a joystick instead of a wheel and pedal system (Formula T2)? In ICR2, when I need to brake, I just hold down one of the buttons on the joystick until the car comes to almost a complete stop and then accelerate again. From what I hear about GP2, you can actually lock up the brakes. If I do the same thing in GP2 (hold down the brake button for a couple of seconds) will I lock up my wheels? When using a joystick, you can't really have variable brake control or its very hard to just *slightly* press down the joytstick button halfway. With the T2, you can have varying degrees of braking. I hope I'm making sense here since I don't want to be in a spin out everytime I brake in GP2! Thanks. -- "Adventure...e***ment...a Jedi craves not these things..." -Yoda
Mari.Donk.. 24 May 1996#319799
Don't know yet about GP2, but in ICR2 you can reassign the braking to the joystick's Y-axis. Then you do not need to press a button to brake (which is BREAK-NOBREAK), but can pull backwards the joystick to brake (and thus have variable brake control). The same applies to the throttle, where you can then push the joystick forward (and have variable throttle control). -------------------------------------------------------- \\v// \\v// \\v// (. .) (. .) (. .) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo-------ooO-(_)-Ooo-------ooO-(_)-Ooo------
Pekka Kumar 26 May 1996#319983
Quoted text (15 lines)> I was wondering how the car in GP2 will respond if I am playing with a > joystick instead of a wheel and pedal system (Formula T2)? > In ICR2, when I need to brake, I just hold down one of the buttons on > the joystick until the car comes to almost a complete stop and then > accelerate again. From what I hear about GP2, you can actually lock up > the brakes. If I do the same thing in GP2 (hold down the brake button > for a couple of seconds) will I lock up my wheels? > When using a joystick, you can't really have variable brake control or > its very hard to just *slightly* press down the joytstick button > halfway. With the T2, you can have varying degrees of braking. > I hope I'm making sense here since I don't want to be in a spin out > everytime I brake in GP2! > Why don't you simply use the Y-axis of your joystick for accelerate /
brake control? Spare the buttons for up/down shifting (and reverse gear in ICR2)... I suppose GP2 will not make a difference. Pekka
Tony Rae 26 May 1996#319984
Quoted text (8 lines)>> When using a joystick, you can't really have variable brake control or >> its very hard to just *slightly* press down the joytstick button >> halfway. With the T2, you can have varying degrees of braking. >> I hope I'm making sense here since I don't want to be in a spin out >> everytime I brake in GP2! >> Why don't you simply use the Y-axis of your joystick for accelerate / >brake control? Spare the buttons for up/down shifting (and reverse >gear in ICR2)... I suppose GP2 will not make a difference.
This is exactly the way I have my j/s set up for ICR2. Variable brake control does work this way by pulling the j/s back to apply brakes. Impossible if you use a j/s button to brake. Tony
GP2 allows for TOTAL control of the way the sim reads your input device. Programmable and adjustable everything. Joystick should work just fine. Cheers! John _________________________________ __ _____| |_____ __ _________| |__| :| John Wallace | |__| |_________ \ :| |::| :| Team WW Racing TSW | |::| | / > :| |::| :|_________________________________| |::| | < / :|__|::|____:/ Sim Racing News \.____|::|__| \ /_______:/ \::/ http://www.dcn.ed.ac.uk/pulse/index.htm \::/ \._______\
TOBY BRANFO 27 May 1996#320052
TX> In ICR2, when I need to brake, I just hold down one of the buttons TX> on the joystick until the car comes to almost a complete stop and TX> then accelerate again. From what I hear about GP2, you can actually TX> lock up the brakes. I hope you can lock-up - this sort of thing Papyrus has NOT got right at all. I find ICR2/Nascar weakest when driving a car hard in and out of corners on road courses.....perhaps this reflects the interests of the developers (and most posters in this conference) in that fast cornering on ovals such as Michigan or Talledega is more interesting than handling a car around Laguna or the Glen. TX> When using a joystick, you can't really have variable brake control TX> or its very hard to just *slightly* press down the joytstick button TX> halfway. Why not try using the joystick with accelaration on the forward axis and braking on the rear.....put reverse gear on the keyboard. This gives you a fairly good degree of control of both pedals. It doesn't allow you to do both together.....but there seems to be no simulation of left-foot braking in the sims either and the Papyrus accelarator pedal definitely seems to be a "forward speed" measure rather than one of engine revs/power output.....so this is probably about right. Cheers! --- * RM 1.3 U0414 * OS/2 means curtains for Windows!
EldredP 28 May 1996#320160
Quoted text (22 lines)>Subject: Re: GP2 - Can I really use a joystick? >Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 10:44:29 +0300 >> I was wondering how the car in GP2 will respond if I am playing with a >> joystick instead of a wheel and pedal system (Formula T2)? >> In ICR2, when I need to brake, I just hold down one of the buttons on >> the joystick until the car comes to almost a complete stop and then >> accelerate again. From what I hear about GP2, you can actually lock up >> the brakes. If I do the same thing in GP2 (hold down the brake button >> for a couple of seconds) will I lock up my wheels? >> When using a joystick, you can't really have variable brake control or >> its very hard to just *slightly* press down the joytstick button >> halfway. With the T2, you can have varying degrees of braking. >> I hope I'm making sense here since I don't want to be in a spin out >> everytime I brake in GP2! >> Why don't you simply use the Y-axis of your joystick for accelerate / >brake control? Spare the buttons for up/down shifting (and reverse >gear in ICR2)... I suppose GP2 will not make a difference. >Pekka
That's not always easy. I remember trying that with Bill Elliott's Nascar Racing. I finally ended up using the keyboard... :( ________ Eldred Pickett I am NOT paranoid. And why are you always watching me?!?
Selec 31 May 1996#320458
Quoted text (16 lines)> I was wondering how the car in GP2 will respond if I am playing with a > joystick instead of a wheel and pedal system (Formula T2)? > In ICR2, when I need to brake, I just hold down one of the buttons on > the joystick until the car comes to almost a complete stop and then > accelerate again. From what I hear about GP2, you can actually lock up > the brakes. If I do the same thing in GP2 (hold down the brake button > for a couple of seconds) will I lock up my wheels? > When using a joystick, you can't really have variable brake control or > its very hard to just *slightly* press down the joytstick button > halfway. With the T2, you can have varying degrees of braking. > I hope I'm making sense here since I don't want to be in a spin out > everytime I brake in GP2! > Thanks.
You sure can ! If you use an _ANALOGUE_ joystick !!!! Digital joystick (button-'sticks') are for KIDS/CONSOLE's This is autos.simulators and NOT console.nintendo.racegame !!! We are talking about car SIMULATORS on REAL computers !! Select ********************** * Live Sucks ! * * * * And then you DIE ! * **********************
EldredP 31 May 1996#320459
Quoted text (25 lines)>Subject: Re: GP2 - Can I really use a joystick? >Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 10:44:18 +0200 >> I was wondering how the car in GP2 will respond if I am playing with a >> joystick instead of a wheel and pedal system (Formula T2)? >> In ICR2, when I need to brake, I just hold down one of the buttons on >> the joystick until the car comes to almost a complete stop and then >> accelerate again. From what I hear about GP2, you can actually lock up >> the brakes. If I do the same thing in GP2 (hold down the brake button >> for a couple of seconds) will I lock up my wheels? >> When using a joystick, you can't really have variable brake control or >> its very hard to just *slightly* press down the joytstick button >> halfway. With the T2, you can have varying degrees of braking. >> I hope I'm making sense here since I don't want to be in a spin out >> everytime I brake in GP2! >> Thanks. >You sure can ! >If you use an _ANALOGUE_ joystick !!!! >Digital joystick (button-'sticks') are for KIDS/CONSOLE's >This is autos.simulators and NOT console.nintendo.racegame !!! >We are talking about car SIMULATORS on REAL computers !!
Analog joysticks STILL have ON/OFF button switches. He's probably using the buttons for accel/brake, and one joystick axis for steering. Now if you had told him to use the other joystick axis as accel/brake, you would have been helping. As it was, you jumped all over the guy for asking a simple question. Wrong answer. Bad dog. No biscuit. ________ Eldred Pickett I am NOT paranoid. And why are you always watching me?!?

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