Hawaii Replays

I recently raced a race on Hawaii and wanted to save the replay of the race. Before I exited the race I saved the replay and thought everything was fine. But when I go to view it, it freezes up on my machine. Does anyone know what I did wrong, and has anyone saved hawaii replays succesfully? M. Roberts

I have saved multiple replays successfully with no problem. Wish I could give you more info, -

writes: Same thing happened to me. I finished the race and wanted to check out hte close finish ahead of me and decide to tapeit to watch later so as not to dilly dally after the race but when I go to watch it I see my car for about 1 sec then the screen goes grey and the machine crashes. Gene Gagne SKL LVL 2 but moving up

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>Subject: Hawaii Replays >Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 01:07:03 -0400 >I recently raced a race on Hawaii and wanted to save the replay of the >race. Before I exited the race I saved the replay and thought >everything was fine. But when I go to view it, it freezes up on my >machine. Does anyone know what I did wrong, and has anyone saved hawaii >replays succesfully? >M. Roberts

Been there, done that<g> Maybe it's a memory problem. How much (base/extended) memory do you have. Actually, check your hard drive space. I just remembered I had problems like that, and I discovered my HD was full...<BURP!> ________ Eldred Pickett I am NOT paranoid. And why are you always watching me?!?

writes: Same exact thing has happened to me. I've tried to save about 6 replays and a couple of them freeze up with only the sound working. Phil

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>writes: >>I recently raced a race on Hawaii and wanted to save the replay of the >>race. Before I exited the race I saved the replay and thought >>everything was fine. But when I go to view it, it freezes up on my >>machine. Does anyone know what I did wrong, and has anyone saved hawaii >>replays succesfully? >>M. Roberts >Same exact thing has happened to me. I've tried to save about 6 replays >and a couple of them freeze up with only the sound working. >Phil

Haven't had any trouble saving replays!

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> >Subject: Hawaii Replays > >Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 01:07:03 -0400 > >I recently raced a race on Hawaii and wanted to save the replay of the > >race. Before I exited the race I saved the replay and thought > >everything was fine. But when I go to view it, it freezes up on my > >machine. Does anyone know what I did wrong, and has anyone saved hawaii > >replays succesfully? > >M. Roberts > Been there, done that<g> > Maybe it's a memory problem. How much (base/extended) memory do you have. > Actually, check your hard drive space. I just remembered I had problems like > that, and I discovered my HD was full...<BURP!> > ________ > Eldred Pickett > I am NOT paranoid. And why are you always watching me?!?

The "replay bug" started when Papyrus added the .RPX associated file, that links the saved replay to a file that links the names of the drivers that were in the saved On-line race. A quick fix is to upgrade to 32meg. Not a great solution but, it worked for me. I believe it has something to do with running out of memory space when saving the replay to the HD. Since upgrading to 32meg. I have saved all my HAL races that are 18% to 23% in length, from various tracks and have had no problems. What does Charlie (Hawaii programmer) Heath think of this? -- Terry L. Adams Compuserve: 102115,2033 HAWAII: Adams

I must be lucky I saved the replay to disk and it works fine!

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>Subject: Re: Hawaii Replays >Date: 21 May 1996 16:24:30 -0400 >writes: >>I recently raced a race on Hawaii and wanted to save the replay of the >>race. Before I exited the race I saved the replay and thought >>everything was fine. But when I go to view it, it freezes up on my >>machine. Does anyone know what I did wrong, and has anyone saved hawaii >>replays succesfully? >>M. Roberts >Same exact thing has happened to me. I've tried to save about 6 replays >and a couple of them freeze up with only the sound working. >Phil

Check your HD space, guys... ________ Eldred Pickett I am NOT paranoid. And why are you always watching me?!?

>Check your HD space, guys... >________ >Eldred Pickett Not the problem, Eldred. I got 113 megs free HD space.. I would venture a guess and say it's a .rpx bug on Papyrus' side for us bums who have less than 32 megs of ram.... Phil

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>Subject: Re: Hawaii Replays >Date: 23 May 1996 05:06:31 -0400 >>Check your HD space, guys... >>________ >>Eldred Pickett >Not the problem, Eldred. I got 113 megs free HD space.. I would venture >a guess and say it's a .rpx bug on Papyrus' side for us bums who have less >than 32 megs of ram.... >Phil

Hmm, when did it change? I've only got 12MB (16 on my other system) and my replays saved fine... ________ Eldred Pickett I am NOT paranoid. And why are you always watching me?!?

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>The "replay bug" started when Papyrus added the .RPX associated file, >that links the saved replay to a file that links the names of the >drivers that were in the saved On-line race. A quick fix is to upgrade >to 32meg. Not a great solution but, it worked for me. I believe it has >something to do with running out of memory space when saving the replay >to the HD. >Since upgrading to 32meg. I have saved all my HAL races that are 18% to >23% in length, from various tracks and have had no problems. >What does Charlie (Hawaii programmer) Heath think of this?

I'll look into it. Hadn't seen it, but I've heard of several people having problems, so I suspect there's something broken. If the problem is with the .RPX file, you <might> be able to resolve it by moving the RPX file out of the track directory; if you do this, you won't have driver names and car numbers from the multiplayer race, but you might be able to load the replay. (I'd be interested in hearing about it if this is indeed the case). Charlie Heath Papyrus Design Group

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>I'll look into it. Hadn't seen it, but I've heard of several people having >problems, so I suspect there's something broken. If the problem is with >the .RPX file, you <might> be able to resolve it by moving the RPX file out >of the track directory; if you do this, you won't have driver names and car >numbers from the multiplayer race, but you might be able to load the >replay. (I'd be interested in hearing about it if this is indeed the >case). >Charlie Heath >Papyrus Design Group

I have a 24 meg machine on a P-133 and replays save fine, but the camera jumps from one car to another a lot, the cars disappear and re-appear, and some cars seem to be accessible for only parts of the race. What's going on? Randy

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>Hmm, when did it change? I've only got 12MB (16 on my other system) and my >replays saved fine... > >________ > >Eldred Pickett > >I am NOT paranoid. And why are you always watching me?!? >

I've got 16 meg and it saves fine expect when playing back files. Cars disappear and reappear during replay. --- Frank ---

I have NFS and would like to use it without the CD Is there a way to do this, i have a Syquest 135 drive, so the space is not a problem. Thanks Gary H...

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> >I recently raced a race on Hawaii and wanted to save the replay of the > >race. Before I exited the race I saved the replay and thought > >everything was fine. But when I go to view it, it freezes up on my > >machine. Does anyone know what I did wrong, and has anyone saved hawaii > >replays succesfully? > >M. Roberts > I must be lucky I saved the replay to disk and it works fine!

O.K., guys, ask yourself these questions about saving your replays: 1. How long was the race, you just saved? 2. How much memory do I have in my system? For a short race, a 16meg. system is fine. If your trying to grab a long race on a 16meg. system, you will usually "MAX" out the 8megs of 16megs your has avaivable for replays. This is where guys are having problems with their saved replays. 3. Not having enough Hard Drive space can be a problem, so, check your free H.D. space, BEFORE logging into the HAWAII system. Don't ya want that killer SERIES replay!! :) If the "camera" jumps around, was there MORE than 10 racers/clients within the race? If there was, yes, the camera will jump around. This is because of the limitation on the Hawaii race server, only able to send YOU, the closest 10-11 racers around you. Small sized races have VERY good saved replays!!! -- Terry L. Adams Compuserve: 102115,2033 HAWAII: Adams

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>I have a 24 meg machine on a P-133 and replays save fine, but the >camera jumps from one car to another a lot, the cars disappear and >re-appear, and some cars seem to be accessible for only parts of the >race. >What's going on? >Randy

What's going on is that in multiplayer, you don't have information on the full field, just the cars which are nearby, so the replay also has limited information. You should have a pretty accurate replay for those cars which are close to yours, but for large field races, you'll see a lot of jumping around unless you keep focused on your own car. Charlie Heath Papyrus Design Group

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>>I have a 24 meg machine on a P-133 and replays save fine, but the >>camera jumps from one car to another a lot, the cars disappear and >>re-appear, and some cars seem to be accessible for only parts of the >>race. >>What's going on? >>Randy >What's going on is that in multiplayer, you don't have information on the >full field, just the cars which are nearby, so the replay also has limited >information. You should have a pretty accurate replay for those cars which >are close to yours, but for large field races, you'll see a lot of jumping >around unless you keep focused on your own car. >Charlie Heath >Papyrus Design Group

I've never used Hawaii, but wouldn't it be possible for Papyrus to store entire replays for each race on their server for a period of, say, a week after each race? People could then download entire replays via modem, or selectively watch replays direct from the server. This would get around the problem of cars "jumping", as I presume that the server stores position vectors for the whole field. As Hawaii progresses and serious racing series arise on it, I'm sure many people would be interested in watching replays of important or particularly exciting races, even if they didn't compete in them themselves. Fraser

>What's going on is that in multiplayer, you don't have information on the >full field, just the cars which are nearby, so the replay also has limited >information. You should have a pretty accurate replay for those cars which >are close to yours, but for large field races, you'll see a lot of jumping >around unless you keep focused on your own car. It is a little annoying to be watching a replay and have the car disappear on one frame, you advance a frame and then step through the cars to find it again. It would be nice if the replay engine would remember which car you were focused on and return to that car. Dave "davids" Sparks Sequoia Motorsports

>I've got 16 meg and it saves fine expect when playing back files. Cars >disappear and reappear during replay. >--- Frank --- If you're looking at cars that aren't involved in an 'incident', they look fine. Once they make contact with something, they tend to 'warp'. ________ Eldred Pickett I am NOT paranoid. And why are you always watching me?!?