Clarification Rocket24B

The following is a post from Rocket24B, a racer I complained about in a previous reply to Eric Busch post on "RACER TO AVOID" regarding Hawaii.. This fellow has posted an explanation, which is more than others have done, and if I was wrong in my accusation, then I am sorry. I personally will not name any more racers here in the future unless it it so blatent, it becomes intolerable and i am absolutley sure and then i might have 2nd thoughts. Following is txt of post: I have received many complaints about my driving skills on Hawaii. I have to settle it right now. I am so tired of being called a rookie. I'm sure you all are tired of it too. Okay, so I'm not the best driver in the world. I'm good at some tracks, and are horrible at others. However, just because I cause a wreck doesn't mean you all have to ignore and refuse to race with me!! I have many friends on Hawaii, and many enemies. It is very hard to race with 32 other people and not have a wreck. The problem is, I have seen lots of incidents where people INTENTIONALLY take somebody out just because of a wreck. Hey, Hawaii is supposed to be FUN!! There is no money involved (except the loads for long distance charges), and you don't get any awards or anything. If you wreck, don't accuse somebody and then wipe them out. Simply leave and spend your LD on another race. For example, I was running 3rd at Talladega. Then #25 got mad and took the leaders out, leading me to victory. Please, get along and don't fight! If you get mad, silently avoid that racer, (Which in fact, many people have done to me). Papyrus worked very hard to get Hawaii out, and all you can do is fight over the results? C'MON!!!!!! Why don't we just all get along? Kenneth Drupiewski http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/1517/ Rocket24B on Hawaii

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> The following is a post from Rocket24B, a racer I complained about in > a previous reply to Eric Busch post on "RACER TO AVOID" regarding > Hawaii.. This fellow has posted an explanation, which is more than > others have done, and if I was wrong in my accusation, then I am > sorry. I personally will not name any more racers here in the future > unless it it so blatent, it becomes intolerable and i am absolutley > sure and then i might have 2nd thoughts. > Following is txt of post: > I have received many complaints about my driving skills on Hawaii. I > have > to settle it right now. I am so tired of being called a rookie. I'm > sure > you all are tired of it too. Okay, so I'm not the best driver in the > world. I'm good at some tracks, and are horrible at others. However, > just > because I cause a wreck doesn't mean you all have to ignore and refuse > to > race with me!! I have many friends on Hawaii, and many enemies. It is > very > hard to race with 32 other people and not have a wreck. The problem > is, I > have seen lots of incidents where people INTENTIONALLY take somebody > out > just because of a wreck. Hey, Hawaii is supposed to be FUN!! There is > no > money involved (except the loads for long distance charges), and you > don't > get any awards or anything. If you wreck, don't accuse somebody and > then > wipe them out. Simply leave and spend your LD on another race. For > example, I was running 3rd at Talladega. Then #25 got mad and took the > leaders out, leading me to victory. Please, get along and don't fight! > If > you get mad, silently avoid that racer, (Which in fact, many people > have > done to me). Papyrus worked very hard to get Hawaii out, and all you > can > do is fight over the results? C'MON!!!!!! Why don't we just all get > along? > Kenneth Drupiewski > http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/1517/ > Rocket24B on HawaiiA remark from a person who has raced with rocket,He did not wreck me or

anybody else in the races we were in,Did you ever think that yes maybe he made a rookie mistake,But aren't we all really rookies?If we were PROS we wouldn't be racin opn a computer but would be in million dollar race cars.I have chatted by e-mail with Rocket and I found out That he is a 11 year old who is having fun,I am a 36 year old who is trying to have fun TOO. FUN,That is what this is supposed to be. Sorry I got long,I love Hawaii and just want to have fun.

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>The following is a post from Rocket24B, a racer I complained about in >a previous reply to Eric Busch post on "RACER TO AVOID" regarding >Hawaii.. This fellow has posted an explanation, which is more than >others have done, and if I was wrong in my accusation, then I am >sorry. I personally will not name any more racers here in the future >unless it it so blatent, it becomes intolerable and i am absolutley >sure and then i might have 2nd thoughts.

[explanation snipped] This is a complicated situation. There are a some people (myself included) who take racing on Hawaii as seriously as we would if we were out in a real machine. There are lots more who view it as pure recreation and are just out to have fun. And there's a third class who are there to wreak havoc. The skill system was supposed to solve these problems, but it's not working because the system doesn't sufficiently penalize accidents and is biased towards races with large fields (Talladega). For example, let's examine two races: Race #1, Talladega, 20 drivers equal skill. Finish 5th, points awarded = 4 * (-3) + 15 * 3 = 33 points Race #2, Dover, 5 drivers equal skill Finish 2nd, points awarded = 1* (-3) + 3 * 3 = 6 points In both cases, only 20% of the field finishes ahead of you, ranking you in the 80th percentile, however there's a 5x difference in points, rather dramatic. Since Talladega always has the largest fields, the racers who race it over and over again and do reasonably well get their ratings boosted quickly. Drivers who prefer to race at the other tracks take much longer to increase their skill ratings. With regard to accidents, the "incident" penalty is not severe enough. If the white flag comes out, and I'm behind someone within my skill range (+/- 2 points), I can actually gain points by bumping into them and causing a spin. I would like to see the incident penalty made more severe, perhaps to -6, to discourage this type of behavior. I've made these suggestions to Papyrus, and I hope that others of a similar mind might also encourage them to address these issues so that the skills system does a better job of sifting drivers. The other thing I've been doing is trying to chat with drivers that are involved in incidents and offer suggestions on how they can be a better Hawaii "citizen". In some cases, this has been effective. In others, well, "You can lead a horse to water..." Dave "davids" Sparks Sequoia Motorsports

>With regard to accidents, the "incident" penalty is not severe enough. If >the white flag comes out, and I'm behind someone within my skill range (+/- >2 points), I can actually gain points by bumping into them and causing a >spin. I would like to see the incident penalty made more severe, perhaps to >-6, to discourage this type of behavior. Hi David. The problem with this is when you get involved in an incident that you didn't start. If Papyrus could distinguish the insitgator of an incident, then penalizing him heavily would be fine. However, I wouldn't want to lose points just because I had no where to go. Bill.

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>>With regard to accidents, the "incident" penalty is not severe enough. If >>the white flag comes out, and I'm behind someone within my skill range (+/- >>2 points), I can actually gain points by bumping into them and causing a >>spin. I would like to see the incident penalty made more severe, perhaps to >>-6, to discourage this type of behavior. >Hi David. The problem with this is when you get involved in an >incident that you didn't start. If Papyrus could distinguish the >insitgator of an incident, then penalizing him heavily would be fine. >However, I wouldn't want to lose points just because I had no where to >go.

I agree, but it will hurt the drivers that cause incidents more than the others. There are guys who are 7s and 8s now who still can't complete a 9 lap Talladega without taking someone out. Dave "davids" Sparks Sequoia Motorsports