Finally played a bunch tonight with a borrowed FF wheel (instead of
gamepad). Talk about a sense of tension and driving on the ragged
edge!!! Man, the rush you get flying through the woods pushing it as
fast as you can go knowing a slight miscalculation could ruin your time,
not to mention displace your radiator into a fuming pretzel. Richard
Burns Rally is awesome, hard but awesome.
Sooooooooooo much concentration is needed when driving this game. Oh and
outside view is NOT the way to go fast btw.
I did a few quick runs setting up the newly borrowed wheel and pedal
axises to my liking in the controller area. All seems great.
Then I tried some more serious runs like I would with my gamepad and
even with the wheel found myself all over the road and could barely get
close to my 4:09 best time.
BUT .......then I switched to windshield view. Drove for 1 min or so to
get use to the view then tried another serious run.
Blam! Instant 3:58 on first run and I wasn't even smooth or anywhere
near graceful!!!!
I think there are different physics and handling with outside view; or
at least there are perceived handling differences that really make it
hard to drive FAST in outside view. There simply seems to more stability
and more traction in the inside car type views. Call me crazy but try it
for yourself.
Do a serious run in both views and see. Am I smoking weed on this one or
do you others notice this too?
Is anyone able to race in outside view and be fast?
On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 00:28:07 -0500, Destroy wrote:
> not to mention displace your radiator into a fuming pretzel. Richard
> Burns Rally is awesome, hard but awesome.
>
I have yet to finish a stage with realistic or even reduced damage
(apart from the rally school final sprint, that is ;-)
>
> Blam! Instant 3:58 on first run and I wasn't even smooth or anywhere
> near graceful!!!!
>
I assume you're on about the Harwood stage, right? My PB so far is a
4:04, even with inside view and a decent controller (tsw2). I find it
terribly hard to go fast and *not* crash in RBR, but it's very
rewarding.
> Is anyone able to race in outside view and be fast?
My son favours the ouside view, but I'd drop the "fast" from that
sentence. ;-)
Cheers,
uwe
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Destroy <[email hidden]> wrote in news:aGP2d.42426$[email hidden]
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> Do a serious run in both views and see. Am I smoking weed on this one or
> do you others notice this too?
>
> Is anyone able to race in outside view and be fast?
>
I tried outside view, just to see what magazine reviewers were grumbling
about with respect to the graphics. Couldn't get on with it at all- I need
the interior view to get an idea of how the car is working in order to
drive it properly.
I don't /think/ it's different, just that there's less useful visual input
from the kite view.
cheers
John
Realistic Cockpits v. 1.0
"This modification positions the in-car drivers view camera where it would
be in real life. It also positions the HUD in a way that it shows only the
gear selected and the shifting indicator where it should be in real life -
on the dash behind the wheel. Experience a more authentic rally experience
and notice how the cars look and feel more different than you were
previously used to."
http://www.bhmotorsports.com/download/7244
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> Finally played a bunch tonight with a borrowed FF wheel (instead of > gamepad). Talk about a sense of tension and driving on the ragged > edge!!! Man, the rush you get flying through the woods pushing it as > fast as you can go knowing a slight miscalculation could ruin your time, > not to mention displace your radiator into a fuming pretzel. Richard > Burns Rally is awesome, hard but awesome. > > Sooooooooooo much concentration is needed when driving this game. Oh and > outside view is NOT the way to go fast btw. > > I did a few quick runs setting up the newly borrowed wheel and pedal > axises to my liking in the controller area. All seems great. > > Then I tried some more serious runs like I would with my gamepad and > even with the wheel found myself all over the road and could barely get > close to my 4:09 best time. > > BUT .......then I switched to windshield view. Drove for 1 min or so to > get use to the view then tried another serious run. > > Blam! Instant 3:58 on first run and I wasn't even smooth or anywhere > near graceful!!!! > > I think there are different physics and handling with outside view; or > at least there are perceived handling differences that really make it > hard to drive FAST in outside view. There simply seems to more stability > and more traction in the inside car type views. Call me crazy but try it > for yourself. > > Do a serious run in both views and see. Am I smoking weed on this one or > do you others notice this too? > > Is anyone able to race in outside view and be fast? >How is driving with a gamepad? It's the only thing I have at the moment and
would think about getting this game if I could use the gamepad temporarily.
Peter
"Destroy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Finally played a bunch tonight with a borrowed FF wheel (instead of > gamepad). Talk about a sense of tension and driving on the ragged > edge!!! Man, the rush you get flying through the woods pushing it as > fast as you can go knowing a slight miscalculation could ruin your time, > not to mention displace your radiator into a fuming pretzel. Richard > Burns Rally is awesome, hard but awesome. > > Sooooooooooo much concentration is needed when driving this game. Oh and > outside view is NOT the way to go fast btw. > > I did a few quick runs setting up the newly borrowed wheel and pedal > axises to my liking in the controller area. All seems great. > > Then I tried some more serious runs like I would with my gamepad and > even with the wheel found myself all over the road and could barely get > close to my 4:09 best time. > > BUT .......then I switched to windshield view. Drove for 1 min or so to > get use to the view then tried another serious run. > > Blam! Instant 3:58 on first run and I wasn't even smooth or anywhere > near graceful!!!! > > I think there are different physics and handling with outside view; or > at least there are perceived handling differences that really make it > hard to drive FAST in outside view. There simply seems to more stability > and more traction in the inside car type views. Call me crazy but try it > for yourself. > > Do a serious run in both views and see. Am I smoking weed on this one or > do you others notice this too? > > Is anyone able to race in outside view and be fast? >
peter walker wrote:
> How is driving with a gamepad? It's the only thing I have at the moment and
> would think about getting this game if I could use the gamepad temporarily.
I have and used my Logitech RumblePad in the beginning. For temp, it
worked fine. As fine as any gamepad can I suppose. I was unable to left
foot brake well since I couldn't split axises and had to tinker alot in
the controller filter menu to get it nonsenstive enough. Plus the FF
'rumble' forces doesn't work at all.
Having said that a wheel, especially force feedback wheel, is 10x the
fun that my gamepad was. This game really comes alive with a nice FF wheel.
Just be careful which wheel you get cause as of now, RBR needs a patch
on many issues and controller compatibility is one of them.
In article <aGP2d.42426$[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...
The physics aren't different. The problem with the outside view is that
your senses can't pick up on the subtle changes in attitude that the car
undergoes during cornering. By the time you notice that you have over-
rotated, it's too late to correct. With the proper (inside) view, you
can see every little nuance of what the car is doing which is essential
when you are driving on the ragged edge. Proper rally cornering demands
a perfect balance of steering and throttle. Too much throttle when you
are sliding around a turn and there won't be enough traction on the rear
wheels and the backend will come around. Too little and you will
oversteer to the inside of the corner. When entering a corner, you have
to flick the steering at just the right time to "catch" the car before
it careens out of control and with the outside view, you simply can't
react fast enough.
RBR models all of this so perfectly -- that's one reason it is such an
amazing game.
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> think there are different physics and handling with outside view; or > at least there are perceived handling differences that really make it > hard to drive FAST in outside view. There simply seems to more stability > and more traction in the inside car type views. Call me crazy but try it > for yourself. > > Do a serious run in both views and see. Am I smoking weed on this one or > do you others notice this too? > > Is anyone able to race in outside view and be fast? >> The physics aren't different. The problem with the outside view is that
> your senses can't pick up on the subtle changes in attitude that the car
> undergoes during cornering. By the time you notice that you have over-
> rotated, it's too late to correct.
Agreed, I think you described the answer well here.
On that note does RBR work with the Track IR?
Mitch
"Todd Walker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > The physics aren't
different. The problem with the outside view is that
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> your senses can't pick up on the subtle changes in attitude that the car > undergoes during cornering. By the time you notice that you have over- > rotated, it's too late to correct. With the proper (inside) view, you > can see every little nuance of what the car is doing which is essential > when you are driving on the ragged edge. Proper rally cornering demands > a perfect balance of steering and throttle. Too much throttle when you > are sliding around a turn and there won't be enough traction on the rear > wheels and the backend will come around. Too little and you will > oversteer to the inside of the corner. When entering a corner, you have > to flick the steering at just the right time to "catch" the car before > it careens out of control and with the outside view, you simply can't > react fast enough.
Mitch_A wrote:
> On that note does RBR work with the Track IR?
>
Yes it does but needs some mod file avail at bhmotorsports.com first.
