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UniVBE 5.2 is finally available!!!!!!!!

13 posts by 13 people · 07 May 1996 - 11 May 1996

I downloaded it yesterday and it definitely improved my frame rate in Indycar II. I currently use a Pentium 100 with an ATI Mach64 and UniVBE 5.1a would not work at all. Now I can turn on all track objects and car details. download it at: http://www.scitechsoft.com/
David Marti 08 May 1996#318177
Quoted text (7 lines)> I downloaded it yesterday and it definitely improved my frame rate in > Indycar II. I currently use a Pentium 100 with an ATI Mach64 and > UniVBE 5.1a would not work at all. Now I can turn on all track objects > and car details. > download it at: > http://www.scitechsoft.com/
Unfortunately, 5.2 does NOT help NASCAR Racing very much. I tried it last night and it is only a slight improvement over 5.1a Apparently, this driver still requires a fast CPU. Mine is a 486DX280. My video card is a Number Nine 9FX Motion 771. Nice card, improvement in Windows was astounding, but Papyrus probably didn't write the code to take advantage of fast video cards. For what it's worth this is what I get. In practice, practice mind you, I can get 18 frames/sec with all textures off except car textures. I display 10 cars ahead of me. Sounds great, well it was short lived. When you start a race from the back of the pack, like I usually do, it immediately turns the car textures back off, indicating that it cannot do 18 with them on. I reduced the number of cars ahead of me down to 6, same thing happened. Reduced the minimum frame rate back to 16, same thing happened. At that point, I quit. Because the most improvement I would be getting is 1 frame/second since I was already used to getting 14. It would be nice if Papyrus could tell us if we're wasting our time. If Papyrus doesn't let the video card do any of the work then we are wasting our time. Maybe NCR 2.0 will be different. David Martin
Atwa 08 May 1996#318178
Quoted text (7 lines)> I downloaded it yesterday and it definitely improved my frame rate in > Indycar II. I currently use a Pentium 100 with an ATI Mach64 and > UniVBE 5.1a would not work at all. Now I can turn on all track objects > and car details. > download it at: > http://www.scitechsoft.com/
Do you mean the "Display Doctor 5.2". It just doesn't sound like what you mean. could you point me in the right direction? thanks.
kaalan1 08 May 1996#318179
Quoted text (32 lines)> > I downloaded it yesterday and it definitely improved my frame rate in > > Indycar II. I currently use a Pentium 100 with an ATI Mach64 and > > UniVBE 5.1a would not work at all. Now I can turn on all track objects > > and car details. > > download it at: > > http://www.scitechsoft.com/ > Unfortunately, 5.2 does NOT help NASCAR Racing very much. I tried it > last night and it is only a slight improvement over 5.1a > Apparently, this driver still requires a fast CPU. Mine is a 486DX280. > My video card is a Number Nine 9FX Motion 771. Nice card, improvement > in Windows was astounding, but Papyrus probably didn't write the code to > take advantage of fast video cards. > For what it's worth this is what I get. In practice, practice mind you, > I can get 18 frames/sec with all textures off except car textures. I > display 10 cars ahead of me. Sounds great, well it was short lived. > When you start a race from the back of the pack, like I usually do, it > immediately turns the car textures back off, indicating that it cannot > do 18 with them on. I reduced the number of cars ahead of me down to 6, > same thing happened. Reduced the minimum frame rate back to 16, same > thing happened. At that point, I quit. Because the most improvement I > would be getting is 1 frame/second since I was already used to getting > 14. > It would be nice if Papyrus could tell us if we're wasting our time. If > Papyrus doesn't let the video card do any of the work then we are > wasting our time. Maybe NCR 2.0 will be different. > David Martin I downloaded UniVBE 5.2 and installed it. My question is will it work
when in dos and using a boot disc. When I boot up the computer to windows a message comes on saying I have a 21 day trial. However using my boot disc I get no message. Also will the original UniVBE that comes with Indycar II work with a Boot disc. I have never been able to see any changes in frame rate when it was installed. Should the UniVBE from Indycar II be installed while using UniVBE 5.2? My video card is a S3864 DXP Chipset. Ken
Quoted text (7 lines)>> I downloaded it yesterday and it definitely improved my frame rate in >> Indycar II. I currently use a Pentium 100 with an ATI Mach64 and >> UniVBE 5.1a would not work at all. Now I can turn on all track objects >> and car details. >> download it at: >> [link lost in import]
Maybe this is a dumb question, but I'm not sure I'm using the new driver correctly with ICR2. Right now I have uninstalled the UNIVBE 5.1a that came with ICR2, and before I run the game I install the new UNIVBE 5.2 from the prompt. Is this the way to go, or am I supposed to be able to use ICR2's "Install UNIVBE Driver" setup option with the new UNIVBE? I ask because I'm currently seeing no difference in framerate with the new UNIVBE. I have a Pentium Overdrive 83MHz and Diamond Viper VLB 2Meg. Thanks for any help, John -- John C. McCanless Department of Electrical Engineering University of ***ia
RickGent 09 May 1996#318286
> If >Papyrus doesn't let the video card do any of the work then we are >wasting our time. Maybe NCR 2.0 will be different. NASCAR Racing does not have any UniVBE support in it. IndyCar Racing II does. Rick Genter Technical Lead, IndyCar Racing II Sierra On-Line, Inc.
Quoted text (13 lines)|> > |> > I downloaded it yesterday and it definitely improved my frame rate in |> > Indycar II. I currently use a Pentium 100 with an ATI Mach64 and |> > UniVBE 5.1a would not work at all. Now I can turn on all track objects |> > and car details. |> > |> > download it at: |> > [link lost in import] |> |> Do you mean the "Display Doctor 5.2". It just doesn't sound like what |> you mean. |> could you point me in the right direction? |> thanks.
Display Doctor 5.2 ~is~ UniVBE 5.2. Read the homepage carefully. Regards. Mail Station 4313, On the Information SuperHighway, I'm the guy with a POBox 64942 hat driving 50 in the fast lane with my blinker on St Paul, MN 55164-0942 and my seatbelt*** out the door making sparks.
Quoted text (11 lines)>Maybe this is a dumb question, but I'm not sure I'm using the new driver >correctly with ICR2. Right now I have uninstalled the UNIVBE 5.1a that >came with ICR2, and before I run the game I install the new UNIVBE 5.2 >from the prompt. Is this the way to go, or am I supposed to be able to >use ICR2's "Install UNIVBE Driver" setup option with the new UNIVBE? I >ask because I'm currently seeing no difference in framerate with the new >UNIVBE. I have a Pentium Overdrive 83MHz and Diamond Viper VLB 2Meg. >Thanks for any help, >John
I second that request...especially since I didn't notice any vast improvements, either, but that could be because 5.1a and 5.2 are similar in the way they run with ICR2. TKS
James Bev 09 May 1996#318289
: > : >Maybe this is a dumb question, but I'm not sure I'm using the new driver : >correctly with ICR2. Right now I have uninstalled the UNIVBE 5.1a that : >came with ICR2, and before I run the game I install the new UNIVBE 5.2 : >from the prompt. Is this the way to go, or am I supposed to be able to : >use ICR2's "Install UNIVBE Driver" setup option with the new UNIVBE? I : >ask because I'm currently seeing no difference in framerate with the new : >UNIVBE. I have a Pentium Overdrive 83MHz and Diamond Viper VLB 2Meg. : > : >Thanks for any help, : > : >John : : I second that request...especially since I didn't notice any vast : improvements, either, but that could be because 5.1a and 5.2 are : similar in the way they run with ICR2. : : TKS Well, from what I can make out, the massive improvement most of us saw with UNIVBE5.1a and the UNIVBE that came with IndycarII was due to their use of VBE2.0, which allows for 32-bit protected mode operation. Most of our previous VBE BIOSes were VBE 1.x, so our games were having to "thunk" down to 16-bit every time they wanted to use a VBE routine. It looks like the main difference between UNIVBE 5.2 (or, as SciTech call it now, Screen Doctor) and 5.1a is support for more cards and all the Windows things. It also adds support for "accelerator functions" but at the moment I think it only supports those on the Mach64 card. Those of us already using a VBE2.0 BIOS probably won't see such a huge improvement until 64-bit processors come along, along with a VBE standard that allows 64-bit protected mode operation ... maybe this is what's holding up GP2? ;-) James -- James Bevan NeXTMail & MIME welcome
Shade 09 May 1996#318290
>Having paid $30 for that >software, and the LD charges, I really don't appreciate the "live with >it" attitude presented by their employees. >Anyone else want to comment on this situation? It said that "piracy" was the reason for all this, but _I_ wasn't a pirate -- I paid for my 5.1 -- and yet now I still have to put up with the extra screen, the 10 second delay, and now have to wait for the postcard to rectify the situation. Seems to me that they could invent some new form of protection for the new product, but show respect for those previous owners by allowing you to simply upgrade with no futher registration process. However, having finished whining, the 5.2 is a significant improvement over the 5.1. I'm able to turn on several more levels of detail now with the same frame rate...
Clark Arch 11 May 1996#318486
> >However, having finished whining, the 5.2 is a significant improvement >over the 5.1. I'm able to turn on several more levels of detail now >with the same frame rate... > Well, I don't see how to upgrade to 5.2 for ICR2. I copied the UNIVBE.DRV file into the ICR2 directory and now I get library version mismatch errors when I start ICR2. How do you get ICR2 to use the new driver? Clark
Jerry W 11 May 1996#318487
Quoted text (12 lines)>>Having paid $30 for that >>software, and the LD charges, I really don't appreciate the "live with >>it" attitude presented by their employees. >>Anyone else want to comment on this situation? >It said that "piracy" was the reason for all this, but _I_ wasn't a >pirate -- I paid for my 5.1 -- and yet now I still have to put up with >the extra screen, the 10 second delay, and now have to wait for the >postcard to rectify the situation. Seems to me that they could invent >some new form of protection for the new product, but show respect for >those previous owners by allowing you to simply upgrade with no futher >registration process.
I can see their point in making a new reg algorithm, and sending out reg codes to those already registered. However, I don't see why they can't email the reg codes either, or give the reg codes to their customers over the phone, provided that they have given verification of ID. I mean, if someone on the net is smart enough to trace someone else's email transmission, it wouldn't be too hard for them to make a crack or key gen for SDD either. _________________________________ "Have you seen Yobi anywhere?" http://www.ics.uci.edu/~jwen/
Jeff Haas 11 May 1996#318488
Quoted text (9 lines)> >However, having finished whining, the 5.2 is a significant improvement > >over the 5.1. I'm able to turn on several more levels of detail now > >with the same frame rate... > Well, I don't see how to upgrade to 5.2 for ICR2. I copied the UNIVBE.DRV > file into the ICR2 directory and now I get library version mismatch errors > when I start ICR2. How do you get ICR2 to use the new driver? > Clark
Clark, I did as another individual recommended: Start setup in your IndycarII directory and disable the univbe support. Then run the new univbe before you start Indycar. I tried that and I do see some improvement over the 5.1 version. Jeff

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