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T2 woes

21 posts by 19 people · 02 May 1996 - 15 May 1996

Getting a Thrustmaster T2 working on a sound-card port

A new T2 owner could not use the wheel and pedals together on his sound card's game port. Replies explained that the port must support two joysticks, that the included adapter puts the pedals on one axis for some games, and that a dedicated speed-adjusting game card can help. He got it working by placing the adapter differently, and most posters reported that the T2 worked on SB16 and AWE32 cards.

hardware: wheels/pedalstech support

Automated summary.

Matt Barne 02 May 1996#317688
I just bought a Thrustmaster T2, but am having some problems with it. First off, does anyone know if it will work with the joystick port on your soundcard? I've tried this; when I use either the wheel or pedals separately, they work fine, but when use both of them on my one port, the wheel doesn't work. Has anyone else had this problem? Matt
Bill Niemey 03 May 1996#317784
When I got my T2 and I love it. I use it with the pedals from CH, cause they are more responsive and much easier to use with bare feet (during hot weather). The key is getting a separate joystick port card that can handle the speed of a 486 or Pentium. The port on a soundcard just can't handle it. I got a CH Gamecard 3 but there are several out there that automatically adjust for the computer's speed like it does. They're not expensive, I think I paid $30 or $40 for mine. Bill aka BillyJoe on Hawaii -------------------------------------------------------------- Centrimedia web development http://www.centrimedia.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------
Arze 03 May 1996#317785
writes: I have my T2 hooked up through my soundblaster 16 card. It works fine.
Ada 03 May 1996#317786
You might need the coverter (availible free from tmaster) that forces the pedals to use the Y axis on joystick one. This should not be a problem on Indycar 1 or 2 but is on need for speed.
Clark Arch 03 May 1996#317787
Quoted text (7 lines)>I just bought a Thrustmaster T2, but am having some problems with it. >First off, does anyone know if it will work with the joystick port on >your soundcard? I've tried this; when I use either the wheel or pedals >separately, they work fine, but when use both of them on my one port, >the wheel doesn't work. Has anyone else had this problem? > >Matt
Matt, You don't mention what kind of sound card you are using. You need to make sure that your card supports TWO joysticks through one port if you want to use the T2 wheel and pedals. My T2 came with an adapter that lets you put the pedals onto the y-axis of joystick 1, so this is great for games like NFS which don't read joystick 2. BTW, I am using a SoundBlaster16 with my T2 and it works fine. Clark
: The key is getting a separate joystick port card that can handle the speed : of a 486 or Pentium. The port on a soundcard just can't handle it. I got : a CH Gamecard 3 but there are several out there that automatically adjust : for the computer's speed like it does. They're not expensive, I think I paid : $30 or $40 for mine. I run my T1 through my PAS sound card. I have a P5-90. I'm just curious, what range of numbers do you get when you calibrate the game in NASCAR or ICR2. This would give me an indication as to whether I need to get a separate card. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Eric Kos 04 May 1996#317852
I use an ACM speed adjustable card and the T2 the calibration values are 1 (low/left) - 519 (high/right). Could'nt get the 1 till i got the ACM card. The only advantage i notice is tighter turning, which IS an advantage i guess. I used the port on my Ensonic card before that and my low value was 9.
Eric Kos 04 May 1996#317853
Some multi-function cards have this problem, mine did. Use the adaptor that comes with the T2, that should fix ya up!
Jo 04 May 1996#317854
> Some multi-function cards have this problem, mine did. Use the >adaptor that comes with the T2, that should fix ya up! Is that what that little black thing at the bottom of the box is? I couldn't find/didn't see any documentation on what it was and what it does.
Matt Barne 04 May 1996#317855
Quoted text (17 lines)> >I just bought a Thrustmaster T2, but am having some problems with it. > >First off, does anyone know if it will work with the joystick port on > >your soundcard? I've tried this; when I use either the wheel or pedals > >separately, they work fine, but when use both of them on my one port, > >the wheel doesn't work. Has anyone else had this problem? > >Matt > Matt, > You don't mention what kind of sound card you are using. You need to make > sure that your card supports TWO joysticks through one port if you want to use > the T2 wheel and pedals. My T2 came with an adapter that lets you put the > pedals onto the y-axis of joystick 1, so this is great for games like NFS > which don't read joystick 2. BTW, I am using a SoundBlaster16 with my T2 and > it works fine. > Clark
I tried the adapter when I first bought it, and it didn't work (by the way, I'm using an SB16, sorry I neglected to say that in the original message). After a little experimentation, I got it to work using the adapter; instead of putting it between the hookup of the pedal and the gameport (as the instructions tell you to), I used it between the wheel and the pedal. Now everything works fine; the wheel is a LOT more fun to drive than a joystick. Matt
eur.. 04 May 1996#317856
Quoted text (11 lines)> >I just bought a Thrustmaster T2, but am having some problems with it. > >First off, does anyone know if it will work with the joystick port on > >your soundcard? I've tried this; when I use either the wheel or > pedals > >separately, they work fine, but when use both of them on my one port, > >the wheel doesn't work. Has anyone else had this problem? > >Matt > u need a dual gamecard for the T2 to work w/Nascar & Indycar I or II
It works just fine with the joystick port on my Sound Blaster AWE32.
Paul Wood 06 May 1996#318045
Quoted text (7 lines)> I just bought a Thrustmaster T2, but am having some problems with it. > First off, does anyone know if it will work with the joystick port on > your soundcard? I've tried this; when I use either the wheel or pedals > separately, they work fine, but when use both of them on my one port, > the wheel doesn't work. Has anyone else had this problem? > Matt
I suppose it depends on the soundcard. I also just purchased the T2 and I have it running through the joystick port on a Soundblaster AWE 32 and it seems to work fine. You may need to make sure you have the little black adapter connected between the T2 cable and the joystick port- I know mine won't work without it. Paul
Quoted text (11 lines)>> I just bought a Thrustmaster T2, but am having some problems with it. >> First off, does anyone know if it will work with the joystick port on >> your soundcard? I've tried this; when I use either the wheel or pedals >> separately, they work fine, but when use both of them on my one port, >> the wheel doesn't work. Has anyone else had this problem? >I suppose it depends on the soundcard. I also just purchased the T2 and >I have it running through the joystick port on a Soundblaster AWE 32 and >it seems to work fine. You may need to make sure you have the little >black adapter connected between the T2 cable and the joystick port- I >know mine won't work without it.
Actually, your joystick port must be a dual channel port capable of controlling two joysticks at once. The SB16 should be okay, and the AWE32 should as well. Personally, I have the Thurstmaster ACM game card ($50) connected to a Joyswitch joystick switchbox (Egghead $50) which allows me to run with either my FLCS joystick (for Descent) or my T2 (for Nascar Racing) without unplugging anything. Works great. BTW, I saw T2's at Circuit City for $99. Egghead wants $129 for the same unit. /===================================================\
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MurrayTe 07 May 1996#318150
Quoted text (13 lines)>> I just bought a Thrustmaster T2, but am having some problems with it. >> First off, does anyone know if it will work with the joystick port on >> your soundcard? I've tried this; when I use either the wheel or pedals >> separately, they work fine, but when use both of them on my one port, >> the wheel doesn't work. Has anyone else had this problem? >> Matt >I suppose it depends on the soundcard. I also just purchased the T2 and >I have it running through the joystick port on a Soundblaster AWE 32 and >it seems to work fine. You may need to make sure you have the little >black adapter connected between the T2 cable and the joystick port- I >know mine won't work without it. >Paul
I have a T2 and have used it with SB16 and my new SB32 with no problems. Maybe it is a coincidental problem?
EldredP 08 May 1996#318256
>BTW, I saw T2's at Circuit City for $99. Egghead wants $129 for the same >unit. Circuit City, huh? I gotta find my credit card... :) ________ Eldred Pickett I am NOT paranoid. And why are you always watching me?!?
Chuck Stuar 11 May 1996#318532
> I just bought a Thrustmaster T2, but am having some problems with it. > First off, does anyone know if it will work with the joystick port on > your soundcard? I've tried this; when I use either the wheel or pedals > separately, they work fine, but when use both of them on my one port, > the wheel doesn't work. Has anyone else had this problem? > Matt Works fine on my SB AWE32. -- ------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- Chuck Stuart - Mesquite TX USA VBTrace 2.00 is a runtime Procedure Trace, XRef, Debug, Profiler and much more. Shareware $49. http://www.apexsc.com/vb/ftp/coop/cstuart ftp.apexsc.com/pub/cgvb/coop/cstuart ------------------------------------------------------------- -----------
Alte 14 May 1996#318851
Quoted text (24 lines)> > I just bought a Thrustmaster T2, but am having some > problems with it. > > First off, does anyone know if it will work with the > joystick port on > > your soundcard? I've tried this; when I use either the > wheel or pedals > > separately, they work fine, but when use both of them on my > one port, > > the wheel doesn't work. Has anyone else had this problem? > > Matt > Works fine on my SB AWE32. > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- > Chuck Stuart - Mesquite TX USA > VBTrace 2.00 is a runtime Procedure Trace, XRef, > Debug, Profiler and much more. Shareware $49. > http://www.apexsc.com/vb/ftp/coop/cstuart > ftp.apexsc.com/pub/cgvb/coop/cstuart > ------------------------------------------------------------- > -----------
Matt: It does work on the joystick port. However, the joystick port needs to be able to support multiple joysticks from a single port. You need to look at your documentation for your sound card. I'm using an Ensoniq Soundscape Wavetable card and it works find.
Billy Frase 14 May 1996#318852
Quoted text (14 lines)>> I just bought a Thrustmaster T2, but am having some >problems with it. >> First off, does anyone know if it will work with the >joystick port on >> your soundcard? I've tried this; when I use either the >wheel or pedals >> separately, they work fine, but when use both of them on my >one port, >> the wheel doesn't work. Has anyone else had this problem? >> Matt >Works fine on my SB AWE32. >WORKS Fine with my soundblaster16,you have to set it up correctly for
each game.f1gp works brill. -- Billy Fraser
Ed Reynol 15 May 1996#318972
Quoted text (17 lines)> >I just bought a Thrustmaster T2, but am having some problems with it. > >First off, does anyone know if it will work with the joystick port on > >your soundcard? I've tried this; when I use either the wheel or pedals > >separately, they work fine, but when use both of them on my one port, > >the wheel doesn't work. Has anyone else had this problem? > >Matt >Matt, >You don't mention what kind of sound card you are using. You need to make >sure that your card supports TWO joysticks through one port if you want to use >the T2 wheel and pedals. My T2 came with an adapter that lets you put the >pedals onto the y-axis of joystick 1, so this is great for games like NFS >which don't read joystick 2. BTW, I am using a SoundBlaster16 with my T2 and >it works fine. >Clark
Matt, My setup is similar to Clark's. I'm using a SoundBlaster 32-PNP on a Pentium-166. I haven't experienced any problems that are supposed" to happen with fast machines (i.e. needing the special ACM card). Ed
Aaron Tayl 15 May 1996#318973
says...
Quoted text (8 lines)>>> I just bought a Thrustmaster T2, but am having some problems with it. >>> First off, does anyone know if it will work with the joystick port on >>> your soundcard? >>> Matt >>Works fine on my SB AWE32. >>WORKS Fine with my soundblaster16,you have to set it up correctly for >each game.f1gp works brill.
I agree with the consensus that it should work with most sound cards' MIDI/Joystick port. There are several factors to be aware of: -Each game usually has a special setup routine for steering wheels. Check the game documentation for details. -Your T2 should have come with a 15-pin white adapter. This allows those ports that need it to accept dual joystick input. Some games will require that you use this adapter, and some will not need it. (ie. The Need for Speed requires it, NASCAR does not) -Finally, I've found the joystick port will just not work with some game titles. (Particularly "Screamer") When I try it on one system using the sound card port, I only get gas/brake. When I try it on another system using the same T2 but use the game port, it works. Their tech support agrees with this. Every other game that advertises T2 compatibility I've managed to make work. Good luck. -Aaron Taylor

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