Simple question about Hawaii rankings...

Just a quick question for the Papyrus guys (or anyone else who knows): if you leave a race during practice (before qualifying) do you take a ranking hit? Last night I had to leave a race before qualifying to put my daughter back to sleep (she was having bad dreams about Jimmy Spencer;-)). My ranking is as important as food to me and I don't want to***it up if possible... Kudos to the creators of NASCAR Racing and Hawaii. This is BY FAR the funnest most absorbing experience I've ever had in a computer simulation. Now I'll just need a second job to pay the LD bill... Thanks, Scott (SMPetty on Hawaii) -- Scott M. Petty

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> Just a quick question for the Papyrus guys (or anyone else who knows): > if you leave a race during practice (before qualifying) do you take a > ranking hit? Last night I had to leave a race before qualifying to put > my daughter back to sleep (she was having bad dreams about Jimmy > Spencer;-)). My ranking is as important as food to me and I don't want > to***it up if possible... > Kudos to the creators of NASCAR Racing and Hawaii. This is BY FAR the > funnest most absorbing experience I've ever had in a computer > simulation. Now I'll just need a second job to pay the LD bill... > Thanks, > Scott (SMPetty on Hawaii) > -- > Scott M. Petty

-- Ed Martin Papyrus Design Group

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> Just a quick question for the Papyrus guys (or anyone else who knows): > if you leave a race during practice (before qualifying) do you take a > ranking hit? Last night I had to leave a race before qualifying to put > my daughter back to sleep (she was having bad dreams about Jimmy > Spencer;-)). My ranking is as important as food to me and I don't want > to***it up if possible... > Kudos to the creators of NASCAR Racing and Hawaii. This is BY FAR the > funnest most absorbing experience I've ever had in a computer > simulation. Now I'll just need a second job to pay the LD bill... > Thanks, > Scott (SMPetty on Hawaii) > -- > Scott M. Petty

I have been told by Ed Martin that you are only penalized if you quit once the race has started. You can even quit during qualifying and not be penalized. Hope this is right? Ed? Ken

: Your ranking is nnot effected until the race session begins. Ed, you've mentioned before that it's not affected until the qualifying session. You said that if you exit the event during the qualifying, that you will get credited with last place. Which is it? Qualifying or the Race event that makes the difference. bill -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- NASCAR - America's Favorite Motorsport. Congratulations Dale on #7!

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>Just a quick question for the Papyrus guys (or anyone else who knows): >if you leave a race during practice (before qualifying) do you take a >ranking hit? Last night I had to leave a race before qualifying to put >my daughter back to sleep (she was having bad dreams about Jimmy >Spencer;-)). My ranking is as important as food to me and I don't want >to***it up if possible... >Kudos to the creators of NASCAR Racing and Hawaii. This is BY FAR the >funnest most absorbing experience I've ever had in a computer >simulation. Now I'll just need a second job to pay the LD bill... >Thanks, >Scott (SMPetty on Hawaii) >-- >Scott M. Petty

Hey SMPetty. You probably don't remember me but I raced against you late Monday night. It was a 20% race at Talledega and you and someone else pulled away from me. I'm pretty sure you won. From what I saw earlier in the race where I was able to keep up. . . you and the other guy drove a great race. I think his name started with a V (Vericos?) I read on an another message in this newsgroup that nothing counts until the green flag waves. I think that means even when you are driving the pace lap, you can still quit. I've heard that a mediocre game becomes very good when you had modem or LAN multiplayer feature. NASCAR racing was a great game to begin with. . . excellent with 2player modem. . . unbelievable with 32 players. Those long distance companies have to mess everything up. ; ) Kevin -- **************************************************************** Hartsdale, NY http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/~khuang Cloud 9 Internet ****************************************************************

> I read on an another message in this newsgroup that nothing counts > until the green flag waves. I think that means even when you are > driving the pace lap, you can still quit. A driver is considered "entered" into a race, for skill level purposes, when he/she begins the qualifying session. Leaving anytime before that will result in that driver not showing up in the race results at all. Drivers who exit during/after qualifying OR before/during the pace lap, are considered in the race, and will be rated as if they finished last. Mike

>Ed, you've mentioned before that it's not affected until the qualifying >session. You said that if you exit the event during the qualifying, that >you will get credited with last place. >Which is it? Qualifying or the Race event that makes the difference. Bill - which would you prefer? I think we'd like not to rate people until the end of qualifying session, but if we do that, some people will drop out of races if they don't like their qualifying speed. This would suggest perhaps that any race in which you take the green flag during qualifying should be rated. Does this sound reasonable to you?

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> >Ed, you've mentioned before that it's not affected until the qualifying > >session. You said that if you exit the event during the qualifying, that > >you will get credited with last place. > >Which is it? Qualifying or the Race event that makes the difference. > Bill - which would you prefer? I think we'd like not to rate people until > the end of qualifying session, but if we do that, some people will drop out > of races if they don't like their qualifying speed. This would suggest > perhaps that any race in which you take the green flag during qualifying > should be rated. Does this sound reasonable to you?

Charlie, I'm not Bill but I wanted to pitch in my nickel here. Last night I thought I'd give Bristol a try, as it was the only thing forming at that instant (Can't just "Hang-around" ya know!!) Anyway, after qualifying standings were posted, it was obvious I was gonna get my ass handed to me on a titanium platter. Rather than be a nuisance to others I decided to hit EJECT, go off line, and work on my setup some more. Beleiving I was not penalized for bailing out before entering the RACE mode, hopefully made for a better race for others. Happy Lappin, Wade Tschida W_Cheeta (MP) #49 DB Motorsports

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> > I read on an another message in this newsgroup that nothing counts > > until the green flag waves. I think that means even when you are > > driving the pace lap, you can still quit. > A driver is considered "entered" into a race, for skill level purposes, > when he/she begins the qualifying session. Leaving anytime before that > will result in that driver not showing up in the race results at all. > Drivers who exit during/after qualifying OR before/during the pace lap, > are considered in the race, and will be rated as if they finished last. > Mike

Seems to me that you could also detect when a driver loses his connection so that it doesn't count against him. But then what would stop them from disconnecting their phone line. Never mind ...

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> > > I read on an another message in this newsgroup that nothing counts > > > until the green flag waves. I think that means even when you are > > > driving the pace lap, you can still quit. > > A driver is considered "entered" into a race, for skill level purposes, > > when he/she begins the qualifying session. Leaving anytime before that > > will result in that driver not showing up in the race results at all. > > Drivers who exit during/after qualifying OR before/during the pace lap, > > are considered in the race, and will be rated as if they finished last. > > Mike > Seems to me that you could also detect when a driver loses his connection so that it doesn't > count against him. But then what would stop them from disconnecting their phone line. Never > mind ...

Yes, but how can we distinguish between a racer who loses the connection do to "technical difficulties", and a racer that loses the conection on purpose (i.e. yank out the old phone cord). That would be a huge cheat for people who want to protect their skill level just because they are doing well in a race. -- Ed Martin Papyrus Design Group

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> > Seems to me that you could also detect when a driver loses his connection so that it doesn't > > count against him. But then what would stop them from disconnecting their phone line. Never > > mind ... > Yes, but how can we distinguish between a racer who loses the > connection do to "technical difficulties", and a racer that loses the > conection on purpose (i.e. yank out the old phone cord). That would be > a huge cheat for people who want to protect their skill level just > because they are doing well in a race. > -- > Ed Martin > Papyrus Design Group

That's why I said "Never mind ..."