Okay, I have taken a closer look at the "Drag" figures and have revised
the data to better reflect qualifying. Once again, keep in mind that
this data is soley based on the drivers' performance in the first 3
races of 1996. If your favorite driver looks like I "shorted" him, it
is only because they haven't performed up to previous levels. Or has
not yet had the "racer's luck" they deserve. Also, due to the way the
game selects the random numbers for a race, real "simulated" results may
not look anything like what you see when you just read the numbers. Plug
them in and give them a try. I will try to update the Qualifying
numbers this weekend after the results for Long Beach are known.
Driver Power Traction Drag
Minimum Maximum Minimum Maximum Minimum Maximum
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Jimmy Vasser #12 475 562 475 562 500 550
Scott Pruett #20 475 562 475 562 500 600
Christian Fittipaldi # 475 550 475 550 500 800
Andre Rebeiro #31 475 550 475 500 500 600
Al Unser, Jr. #2 475 550 475 525 600 700
Gil de Ferran #8 475 550 475 550 500 600
Greg Moore #99 475 550 475 500 500 600
Bobby Rahal #18 475 550 450 550 500 600
Robby Gordon #5 475 500 450 550 500 700
Alex Zanardi #4 475 550 475 562 500 600
Mauricio Gugelmin #17 475 500 475 500 500 600
Stefan Johansson #16 450 525 450 500 700 800
Raul Boesel #1 475 500 450 550 700 800
Eddie Lawson #10 450 525 475 500 700 800
Roberto Moreno #34 475 500 450 525 700 800
Michael Andretti #6 450 550 475 550 500 700
Bryan Herta #28 475 500 450 525 600 800
Hiro Matsushita #19 450 500 475 550 750 800
Emerson Fittipaldi #9 450 550 450 525 600 800
Adrian Fernandez #32 450 550 475 500 500 700
Paul Tracy #3 450 550 475 550 500 700
Marco Greco #7 450 525 425 550 800 900
Scott Goodyear #15 450 550 425 550 750 800
Carlos Guerrero #22 450 525 450 500 700 800
Juan Manuel Fangio II 450 525 450 500 800 900
Parker Johnstone #49 475 550 475 550 500 600
Mark Blundell #18 450 525 425 550 700 800
Jeff Krosnoff #25 450 500 450 550 750 900
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> Okay, I have taken a closer look at the "Drag" figures and have revised > the data to better reflect qualifying. Once again, keep in mind that > this data is soley based on the drivers' performance in the first 3 > races of 1996. If your favorite driver looks like I "shorted" him, it > is only because they haven't performed up to previous levels. Or has > not yet had the "racer's luck" they deserve. Also, due to the way the > game selects the random numbers for a race, real "simulated" results may > not look anything like what you see when you just read the numbers. Plug > them in and give them a try. I will try to update the Qualifying > numbers this weekend after the results for Long Beach are known.: Hi Michael...let me say first that I really do appreciate the work you put
: into your DRIVERS.TXT files; I hope everybody else does. Now let me say
: that I like this set of numbers much better than the first... :)
: I might have to plug 'em into my ICR2 now..
Thanks. According to Papyrus so much of the driving AI is hardcoded,
but I think I am coming up with a good means of getting some real
(albeit "simulated") reflection of the current crop of IndyCar drivers.
Just for the heck of it I am including the Long Beach starting grid
produced by my numbers. The data was based soley on the first 3 races.
It may not reflect the way they start this weekend, but it is pretty
close and some of them are right on the mark. (NOTE: Michael fare
better in the simulated version since he wasn't "blocked" all the time
on the track. Wasn't it Littlest Al that said he liked going to Whine
Country, when he visited the Andrettis?)
Pos Car Driver Time
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1 #20 Scott Pruett 53.093
2 #8 Gil deFerran 53.190
3 #12 Jimmy Vasser 53.352
4 #18 Bobby Rahal 53.455
5 #6 Michael Andretti 53.558
6 #99 Greg Moore 53.602
7 #4 Alex Zanardi 53.624
8 #11 Christian Fittapaldi 53.678
9 #3 Paul Tracy 53.681
10 #2 Al Unser Jr. 53.690
11 #31 Andre Ribeiro 53.699
12 #17 Mauricio Gugelmin 53.802
13 #5 Robby Gordon 53.905
14 #32 Adrian Fernandez 54.166
15 #10 Eddie Lawson 54.184
16 #25 Jeff Krosnoff 54.194
17 #34 Roberto Moreno 54.200
18 #28 Bryan Herta 54.213
19 #22 Carlos Guerrero 54.266
20 #49 Parker Johnstone 54.322
21 #21 Mark Blundell 54.388
22 #1 Raul Boesel 54.535
23 #19 Hiro Matsushita 54.544
24 #16 Stefan Johansson 54.567
25 #36 Juan Manuel Fangio II 54.601
26 #9 Emerson Fittipaldi 54.726
27 #15 Scott Goodyear 54.764
28 #7 Marco Greco 54.844
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Michael:
I'm using your latest drivers2.txt. It's pretty good, but I have one major
gripe: THE BACKMARKERS ARE WAY TOO DAMN FAST!!! Their power/traction numbers
need to be lowered by at least 100. Re: your posting: 1.8 seconds difference
for the whole field? Should be around 3.5-4 secs.
[ps- this isn't a flame... your drivers2.txt is still the best I've seen
posted]
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> Pos Car Driver Time >---------------------------------------------------------- > 1 #20 Scott Pruett 53.093 > 2 #8 Gil deFerran 53.190 > 3 #12 Jimmy Vasser 53.352 > 4 #18 Bobby Rahal 53.455 > 5 #6 Michael Andretti 53.558 > 6 #99 Greg Moore 53.602 > 7 #4 Alex Zanardi 53.624 > 8 #11 Christian Fittapaldi 53.678 > 9 #3 Paul Tracy 53.681 > 10 #2 Al Unser Jr. 53.690 > 11 #31 Andre Ribeiro 53.699 > 12 #17 Mauricio Gugelmin 53.802 > 13 #5 Robby Gordon 53.905 > 14 #32 Adrian Fernandez 54.166 > 15 #10 Eddie Lawson 54.184 > 16 #25 Jeff Krosnoff 54.194 > 17 #34 Roberto Moreno 54.200 > 18 #28 Bryan Herta 54.213 > 19 #22 Carlos Guerrero 54.266 > 20 #49 Parker Johnstone 54.322 > 21 #21 Mark Blundell 54.388 > 22 #1 Raul Boesel 54.535 > 23 #19 Hiro Matsushita 54.544 > 24 #16 Stefan Johansson 54.567 > 25 #36 Juan Manuel Fangio II 54.601 > 26 #9 Emerson Fittipaldi 54.726 > 27 #15 Scott Goodyear 54.764 > 28 #7 Marco Greco 54.844 >-- >**************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* > Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=: [Michael E. Carver's drivers2.txt]
: > Pos Car Driver Time
: >----------------------------------------------------------
: > 1 #20 Scott Pruett 53.093
: > 2 #8 Gil deFerran 53.190
[...]
: > 27 #15 Scott Goodyear 54.764
: > 28 #7 Marco Greco 54.844
: I'm using your latest drivers2.txt. It's pretty good, but I have one major
: gripe: THE BACKMARKERS ARE WAY TOO DAMN FAST!!! Their power/traction numbers
: need to be lowered by at least 100. Re: your posting: 1.8 seconds
: difference for the whole field? Should be around 3.5-4 secs.
Actually, at Long Beach the first 22 cars were within 1.2 seconds of each
other in qualifying. The backmarkers started with Jeff Krosnoff:
Pos Driver Chassis-Engine Time Gap Pct
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1. Gil de Ferran Reynard 96-Honda-G 0:52.208
2. Alessandro Zanardi Reynard 96-Honda-F 0:52.257 0.049 +0.09
3. Jimmy Vasser Reynard 96-Honda-F 0:52.365 0.108 +0.30
4. Paul Tracy Penske 96-Mercedes-G 0:52.521 0.156 +0.60
5. Scott Pruett Lola 96-Ford-F 0:52.557 0.036 +0.67
6. Parker Johnstone Reynard 96-Honda-F 0:52.651 0.094 +0.85
7. Robby Gordon Reynard 96-Ford-G 0:52.754 0.103 +1.05
8. Greg Moore Reynard 96-Mercedes-F 0:52.761 0.007 +1.06
9. Al Unser Jr. Penske 96-Mercedes-G 0:52.796 0.035 +1.13
10. Christian Fittipaldi Lola 96-Ford-G 0:52.807 0.011 +1.15
11. Mauricio Gugelmin Reynard 96-Ford-G 0:52.864 0.057 +1.26
12. Michael Andretti Lola 96-Ford-G 0:52.871 0.007 +1.27
13. Adrian Fernandez Lola 96-Honda-F 0:52.895 0.024 +1.32
14. Emerson Fittipaldi Penske 96-Mercedes-G 0:52.917 0.022 +1.36
15. Andre Ribeiro Lola 96-Honda-F 0:52.951 0.034 +1.42
16. Raul Boesel Reynard 96-Ford-G 0:53.026 0.075 +1.57
17. Bryan Herta Reynard 96-Mercedes-G 0:53.187 0.161 +1.88
18. Roberto Moreno Lola 96-Ford-F 0:53.219 0.032 +1.94
19. Teo Fabi Reynard 96-Ford-G 0:53.221 0.002 +1.94
20. Stefan Johansson Reynard 96-Mercedes-G 0:53.343 0.122 +2.17
21. Bobby Rahal Reynard 96-Mercedes-G 0:53.362 0.019 +2.21
22. Richie Hearn Reynard 95-Ford-G 0:53.433 0.071 +2.35
23. Jeff Krosnoff Reynard 96-Toyota-F 0:53.923 0.490 +3.28
24. Eddie Lawson Lola 96-Mercedes-G 0:54.091 0.168 +3.61
25. Hiro Matsushita Lola 96-Ford-F 0:54.343 0.252 +4.09
26. Juan Manuel Fangio II Eagle 96-Toyota-G 0:54.549 0.206 +4.48
27. Michel Jourdain Jr. Lola 96-Ford-G 0:55.808 1.259 +6.90
28. Dennis Vitolo Reynard 95-Ford-G 0:55.850 0.042 +6.98
I found Michael's revised drivers2.txt file pretty darn accurate up to,
say, the last three spots, where at Long Beach you had Gurney's
doggedly slow development Eagle, and then two *very* green rookies
(last minute additions), one driving a '95 car. The entire field was way
faster this year than last year, and the emergence of the
Reynard-Honda-Firestone combination seems to have pushed the frontrunners
a little further in front than everyone else. I think the only change
that needs to be made in the (revised) drivers2.txt file is maybe
punishing the Cosworths a little more, and the Eagle/Toyotas a *lot*
more. And conversely, rewarding the Hondas.
The main problem I get with the drivers2.txt is getting drivers to
maintain consistency - one race I ran had King Hiro winning Long Beach,
which is about as likely as my grandmother winning, while Vasser's
(and Ganassi's) consistent *** is hard to accurately reflect.
BTW, hello, I'm a lurker. On this group, anyway.
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