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ICR2: 1996 drivers2.txt data

5 posts by 4 people · 08 Apr 1996 - 14 Apr 1996

I've spent the afternoon trying to come up with a competive field of 1996 drivers for ICR2. I carefully analyzed the EDS scoring data and put together some data. I've tried to balance out the field and compensate for drivers that do well on ovals or road courses. The resulting data is based more on overall speed of the drivers/car combo, rather than just finishing order. For you brave souls out there plug in the numbers and give 'em a try. Any feedback will be greatly appreciated. Driver Power Traction Drag Minimum Maximum Minimum Maximum Minimum Maximum Jimmy Vasser #12 490 562 499 562 500 501 Scott Pruett #20 458 562 469 562 500 600 Christian Fittipaldi #11 428 550 455 550 700 800 Andre Rebeiro #31 455 550 450 500 500 600 Al Unser, Jr. #2 444 550 430 525 600 700 Gil de Ferran #8 468 550 445 550 500 600 Greg Moore #99 452 550 464 500 500 600 Bobby Rahal #18 455 550 405 550 500 600 Robby Gordon #5 443 500 397 550 600 700 Alex Zanardi #4 456 550 451 562 500 600 Mauricio Gugelmin #17 415 500 448 500 500 600 Stefan Johansson #16 378 525 389 500 700 800 Raul Boesel #1 418 500 400 550 700 800 Eddie Lawson #10 383 525 423 500 750 800 Roberto Moreno #34 434 500 395 525 700 800 Michael Andretti #6 400 550 432 550 600 700 Bryan Herta #28 430 500 389 525 700 800 Hiro Matsushita #19 374 500 413 550 750 800 Emerson Fittipaldi #9 406 550 373 525 700 800 Adrian Fernandez #32 406 550 416 500 600 700 Paul Tracy #3 414 550 453 550 600 700 Marco Greco #7 375 525 332 550 800 900 Scott Goodyear #15 389 550 332 550 750 800 Carlos Guerrero #22 380 525 388 500 700 800 Juan Manuel Fangio II #36 371 525 382 500 800 900 Parker Johnstone #49 438 550 420 550 500 600 Mark Blundell #18 378 525 332 550 700 800 Jeff Krosnoff #25 365 500 375 550 800 900 -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Josh Beauli 08 Apr 1996#315464
Quoted text (32 lines)>Subject: ICR2: 1996 drivers2.txt data >Date: 8 Apr 1996 05:51:37 GMT >Driver Power Traction Drag > Minimum Maximum Minimum Maximum Minimum Maximum >Jimmy Vasser #12 490 562 499 562 500 501 >Scott Pruett #20 458 562 469 562 500 600 >Christian Fittipaldi #11 428 550 455 550 700 800 >Andre Rebeiro #31 455 550 450 500 500 600 >Al Unser, Jr. #2 444 550 430 525 600 700 >Gil de Ferran #8 468 550 445 550 500 600 >Greg Moore #99 452 550 464 500 500 600 >Bobby Rahal #18 455 550 405 550 500 600 >Robby Gordon #5 443 500 397 550 600 700 >Alex Zanardi #4 456 550 451 562 500 600 >Mauricio Gugelmin #17 415 500 448 500 500 600 >Stefan Johansson #16 378 525 389 500 700 800 >Raul Boesel #1 418 500 400 550 700 800 >Eddie Lawson #10 383 525 423 500 750 800 >Roberto Moreno #34 434 500 395 525 700 800 >Michael Andretti #6 400 550 432 550 600 700 >Bryan Herta #28 430 500 389 525 700 800 >Hiro Matsushita #19 374 500 413 550 750 800 >Emerson Fittipaldi #9 406 550 373 525 700 800 >Adrian Fernandez #32 406 550 416 500 600 700 >Paul Tracy #3 414 550 453 550 600 700 >Marco Greco #7 375 525 332 550 800 900 >Scott Goodyear #15 389 550 332 550 750 800 >Carlos Guerrero #22 380 525 388 500 700 800 >Juan Manuel Fangio II #36 371 525 382 500 800 900 >Parker Johnstone #49 438 550 420 550 500 600 >Mark Blundell #18 378 525 332 550 700 800 >Jeff Krosnoff #25 365 500 375 550 800 900
You're getting the drag numbers all wrong-- drag affects only the qualifying. Al. Jr should have the highest drag numbers while, say Jimmy Vasser, Michael Andretti, and Paul Tracy should have the lowest (all the good qualers.) Hiro Matsushita and all the other backmarkers have WAY too good max powers and tractions. Even their minimums are WAY high. I'll tell you what I do like though -- I like that the top drivers have mins. in the 400's, rather than the default 300's. This is good -- you want a little more consistency than you get with the default-style numbers...
Neil Yeatma 08 Apr 1996#315465
Quoted text (46 lines)> I've spent the afternoon trying to come up with a competive field of > 1996 drivers for ICR2. I carefully analyzed the EDS scoring data and > put together some data. I've tried to balance out the field and > compensate for drivers that do well on ovals or road courses. The > resulting data is based more on overall speed of the drivers/car combo, > rather than just finishing order. For you brave souls out there plug in > the numbers and give 'em a try. Any feedback will be greatly > appreciated. > Driver Power Traction Drag > Minimum Maximum Minimum Maximum Minimum Maximum > Jimmy Vasser #12 490 562 499 562 500 501 > Scott Pruett #20 458 562 469 562 500 600 > Christian Fittipaldi #11 428 550 455 550 700 800 > Andre Rebeiro #31 455 550 450 500 500 600 > Al Unser, Jr. #2 444 550 430 525 600 700 > Gil de Ferran #8 468 550 445 550 500 600 > Greg Moore #99 452 550 464 500 500 600 > Bobby Rahal #18 455 550 405 550 500 600 > Robby Gordon #5 443 500 397 550 600 700 > Alex Zanardi #4 456 550 451 562 500 600 > Mauricio Gugelmin #17 415 500 448 500 500 600 > Stefan Johansson #16 378 525 389 500 700 800 > Raul Boesel #1 418 500 400 550 700 800 > Eddie Lawson #10 383 525 423 500 750 800 > Roberto Moreno #34 434 500 395 525 700 800 > Michael Andretti #6 400 550 432 550 600 700 > Bryan Herta #28 430 500 389 525 700 800 > Hiro Matsushita #19 374 500 413 550 750 800 > Emerson Fittipaldi #9 406 550 373 525 700 800 > Adrian Fernandez #32 406 550 416 500 600 700 > Paul Tracy #3 414 550 453 550 600 700 > Marco Greco #7 375 525 332 550 800 900 > Scott Goodyear #15 389 550 332 550 750 800 > Carlos Guerrero #22 380 525 388 500 700 800 > Juan Manuel Fangio II #36 371 525 382 500 800 900 > Parker Johnstone #49 438 550 420 550 500 600 > Mark Blundell #18 378 525 332 550 700 800 > Jeff Krosnoff #25 365 500 375 550 800 900 > -- > **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* > Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
I'd have to disagree with you, Michael, on a couple of your numbers. I don't think you've given enough credit to a couple of proven winners (Al Jr., Tracy, and a real up and comer, Greg Moore). Tracy had Homestead in the bag until he fried his ***..the Penske team seems to be suffering some mechanical problems at the moment. And I'm convinced Moore is the next Villeneuve..the paint job isn't the only thing they have in common... :) IMHO..I think we'll see a few different faces on the podium at Long Beach...and a few other tracks, too... -- Meek and obedient you follow the leader down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel.. Neil Yeatman, Ajax, Ontario, CANADA
: I'd have to disagree with you, Michael, on a couple of your numbers. I don't : think you've given enough credit to a couple of proven winners (Al Jr., Tracy, : and a real up and comer, Greg Moore). Tracy had Homestead in the bag until he : fried his ***..the Penske team seems to be suffering some mechanical problems : at the moment. And I'm convinced Moore is the next Villeneuve..the paint job : isn't the only thing they have in common... :) : IMHO..I think we'll see a few different faces on the podium at Long Beach...and : a few other tracks, too... Well, the figures are only based on the results of 3 races. I tried to set the drivers up as to how they have performed this year. As the year progresses the numbers will be better. Working within these limitations, I think that if you race against the AI with these numbers the end results will be similar to the real ones. Now if I had the time to sit down and map out how everyone did for every lap of the races they ran so far, I would have real accurate results. I tried to balance out the road drivers vs. the oval boys. I took a look at their best performance (either qualifying or finishing) for the good numbers. I used the lower of the 2 numbers for their lower numbers. I have since gone back and revised the qualifying numbers and will post them tomorrow. It sounds like you have "looked" at the numbers, but have you raced against them? -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
jn.. 14 Apr 1996#315881
The drivers2.txt I use works fine. IMO traction has the biggest effect on racing speed. My drivers2.txt is here: DRIVER POWER TRACTION DRAG AGGRESSION #1 Boesel 325-500 350-500 500-700 500-600 #2 Unser Jr. 350-525 425-550 500-600 700-800 #3 Tracy 375-562 425-550 500-600 900-999 #4 Zanardi 350-562 350-525 500-600 500-600 #5 Gordon 375-562 425-550 500-600 900-999 #6 Andretti 375-550 425-550 500-600 900-999 #8 de Ferran 400-562 425-550 500-600 700-800 #9 E Fittip. 325-525 350-500 500-700 500-600 #10 Lawson 200-400 250-400 700-900 50-100 #11 C Fittip. 350-525 375-525 500-600 700-800 #12 Vasser 400-562 450-550 500-600 700-800 #16 Johansson 225-475 250-475 500-700 500-600 #17 Gugelmin 325-500 375-525 500-600 500-600 #18 Rahal 375-525 425-525 500-600 500-600 #19 Matsushita 200-400 250-400 700-999 50 100 #20 Pruett 375-550 450-550 500-600 500-600 #22 Guerrero 200-400 250-400 700-900 50-100 #25 Krosnoff 200-400 250-400 700-999 50-100 #31 Ribeiro 350-550 375-550 500-600 500-600 #32 Fernandez 325-500 350-525 500-600 500-600 #99 Moore 400-562 450-550 500-600 900-999 #34 Moreno 200-450 250-475 500-900 500-600 #36 Fangio 200-400 175-300 800-999 50-100 #49 Johnstone 350-525 350-525 500-600 250-475 #21 Blundell 325-500 325-500 500-700 500-600 #15 Goodyear 325-500 350-525 500-600 500-600 #7 Greco 200-400 250-400 700-900 50-100 The numbers aren't very accurate with backmarkers but they work well. Slowest cars are 10-15 laps down on one mile ovals and 3-4 laps on street circuits. Any comments?

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