Upgrade what for better performance in NASCAR?

Does anyone have any knowledge on what would improve framerates, graphics drawing ect... in speed intense games such as Nascar, Indy, ect... as far as upgrading my system? I have an AT&T Globalyst 375TPC with 100mhz Pentium 16kb internal cache (slot available to add ext. cache) S3 - Trio64 VGA with 1MB of VDRA memory (upgradeable to 2meg) 16meg of ram (upgradable to 192) 1.6 gig HD and 4X CD. Telemetry 32 w/telephone sound/modem 14.4 card Any help on what type (s) of upgrades would directly benefit my system in games performance would be greatly appreciated! I am becoming a HUGE nascar fan but seem to be experiencing alot of lag in the graphics/screen drawing is jumpy at times in different tracks and I have to turn off the grass and road textures to even make it playable but still some lag occurs. I have read some of the tips in the manual and web pages and they just seem to refer to turning these options off but I would really like to speed up/"tweak" my system to handle these better. P.S./ Anyone else have an AT&T computer with these specs. ? Thanks...

My experience is that the biggest factor in frame rate is the graphics card. (I'd like to hear what others think) I had a chance to run NASCAR on two different machines with the same graphics card. Both had an ATI Mach 64. The machines were a 486/66 with a Vesa local bus and a Pentium 60 with a PCI bus. The 486 was only about 10% slower on frame rate (this was with most of the texture maps turned off on both). On the other hand last year at the Games Developer Conference I saw NASCAR running at 60 frames a second with all the graphics on, running on a Pentium (don't know the speed of the machine). That was with some next generation display chip set. Sure was cool. Also, at that show, a manufacturer was showing a joystick with servo motors built in to provide force feedback, running NASCAR. The demo unit was a coin-op quality unit in a desktop box. It was great! When you went into a drift you could feel it and when you hit the wall, you could REALLY feel it. It also worked on Doom so that you had recoil when you fired a weapon. The manufacturer claimed then that he would be shipping by Spring '96 for a price point of about $129 street price. My reaction was "yeah right" and I haven't heard anything since. Too bad. He said they were also going to do a steering wheel version. My feeling was that it was so cool that it would be worth it at three times the price. Bill

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>Does anyone have any knowledge on what would improve framerates, >graphics drawing ect... in speed intense games such as Nascar, Indy, >ect... as far as upgrading my system? >I have an AT&T Globalyst 375TPC with 100mhz Pentium >16kb internal cache (slot available to add ext. cache) >S3 - Trio64 VGA with 1MB of VDRA memory (upgradeable to 2meg) >16meg of ram (upgradable to 192) >1.6 gig HD and 4X CD. >Telemetry 32 w/telephone sound/modem 14.4 card >Any help on what type (s) of upgrades would directly benefit my system >in games performance would be greatly appreciated! >I am becoming a HUGE nascar fan but seem to be experiencing alot of >lag in the graphics/screen drawing is jumpy at times in different >tracks and I have to turn off the grass and road textures to even make >it playable but still some lag occurs. I have read some of the tips in >the manual and web pages and they just seem to refer to turning these >options off but I would really like to speed up/"tweak" my system to >handle these better. >P.S./ Anyone else have an AT&T computer with these specs. ? >Thanks...

If I was you, I'd upgrade my video card. This is what controls the graphics. Look at a Matrox Millineum. Mike

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|> > |> >Does anyone have any knowledge on what would improve framerates, |> >graphics drawing ect... in speed intense games such as Nascar, Indy, |> >ect... as far as upgrading my system? |> > |> >I have an AT&T Globalyst 375TPC with 100mhz Pentium |> >16kb internal cache (slot available to add ext. cache) |> >S3 - Trio64 VGA with 1MB of VDRA memory (upgradeable to 2meg) |> >16meg of ram (upgradable to 192) |> >1.6 gig HD and 4X CD. |> >Telemetry 32 w/telephone sound/modem 14.4 card |> > |> >Any help on what type (s) of upgrades would directly benefit my system |> >in games performance would be greatly appreciated! |> >I am becoming a HUGE nascar fan but seem to be experiencing alot of |> >lag in the graphics/screen drawing is jumpy at times in different |> >tracks and I have to turn off the grass and road textures to even make |> >it playable but still some lag occurs. I have read some of the tips in |> >the manual and web pages and they just seem to refer to turning these |> >options off but I would really like to speed up/"tweak" my system to |> >handle these better. |> > |> > |> >P.S./ Anyone else have an AT&T computer with these specs. ? |> > |> >Thanks... |> > |> |> If I was you, I'd upgrade my video card. This is what controls the |> graphics. Look at a Matrox Millineum.

I would add some external cache first. It is cheaper, provides more per- formance, and it doesn't involve selling an old card. -- Isaac Wong (613) 763-6127 | Protel Compiler Development http://chat.carleton.ca/~iwong | Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada

says... >>Does anyone have any knowledge on what would improve framerates, >>graphics drawing ect... in speed intense games such as Nascar, Indy, >>ect... as far as upgrading my system? I have a 486DX/120 with an ATI Mach 64 1Mb video card. I have ALL graphics turned on without any flickers. The system runs NASCAR terrifically! It has 256K Cache, 16Mb RAM (60ns), Western Digital 1.2GB drive. The motherboard is a Magitronics. So far it outperforms most of our P75's and P90's at work. Most of the performance degredation of a system is slow SIMMS, or miss-setup BIOS settings. -- Lannie Schafroth

You Say ... 1) GET EXTERNAL CACHE (256K) and make sure it is enabled in the BIOS. 2) GET Matrox Millenium Video Card (2MB standard will be fine) 3) Rock and Roll...... :::;' /) - * - act like a DUMBSHIT & - + - (\ `:::: ::' / ) ':` THEY'll treat YOU as an EQUAL ':` ( \_ ` :' _( (_ _ bObObObObObObObObObObObOb _ ) )\ /> : (((\ \) /,) SALVATION or TRIPLE your MONEY BACK / ) / //))/ : (\\\\ \_/ / http://www.cris.com/~flashboy \ \_/ ///// . :. \ / http://sunsite.unc.edu/subgenius \ / .: ::. \ _/ . . \_ / .::

In my experience the best DOS *** card for the money is the Hercules Stingray Pro. $139 for the 1 MB card. You only needed 1 MB for SVGA in NASCAR. I have a Millenium (4 MB) in a P133 and a Herc (1 MB) in a DX4-100. The difference in NASCAR (hi-res) is that to get the same smoothness (realllll smooth) I only have to turn the grandstand to auto on the 486. Just my experience. Lee

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>>stuff deleted >>Though just having 16mb cache doesn't help (maybe). >>Los >The extended memory is only used for storing replay information. If >you have 16 meg you can store a heck of a bit reply file where with 8 >Meg you can't. It's the only thing the memory is used for. >--- Frank ---

I beleive the person responding was refering to my 16k internal cache which I just ordered and external 256k cache. Will this be different than actual onboard ram as far as speeding up apps, nascar, windows95, ect... I was aware that nascar only uses up to 8meg of ram for actual gameplay and beyond that, they way I understand it, is just for more length in replay.