ICR2: Short-shifting

You will use less fuel. I always do it when short on fuel or when the engine is running hot. Depends on your setup and your driving too... But with very low boost, ie 6 or lower, it can be very hard if not impossible if you have edited the AI strength to match your level when you're using boost 9. Usually if you don't miscalculate the fuel mileage you'll not use anything but boost 9. There's no reason since there is no fuel mileage limit. -- --- Terje Wold Johansen --- http://www.ifi.uio.no/~terjjo/ --- "I am your inferior superior." O.W.

What is short-shifting? I often wonder what boost is normally used by other racers? I stick to 7 most often, with 9 for that extra effort when required. Here's another question that I've been wondering lately: When braking hard for a sharp corner (eg several at Toronto) how late do other folks leave their down shifting? I have the ECC CDS wheel system, whose thumb shifters allow for very quick downshifting. I noticed recently at work, when I was demo-ing ICR2 with a cheap joystick, with auto-shifting on, that the shifting was left quite late. I.e the revs were low before the computer shifted down from 6th. Up til then I'd been shifting quite early when I started braking. I tried this technique at home with the CDS and came away with the impression that I was braking better; engine braking perhaps? Any thoughts anyone, Stuart -- Stuart Booth ... Somewhere in Epsom, England, UK. You are welcome to distribute this message on the Microsoft Network. Why do some silly folk say you can't do so with their messages?

SB> I often wonder what boost is normally used by other racers? I stick SB> to 7 most often, with 9 for that extra effort when required. Me, I tend to use 9 the whole time.....but I'm a sort race and personal best sort of player much of the time. SB> When braking hard for a sharp corner (eg several at Toronto) how SB> late do other folks leave their down shifting? Too early I think.....with the number of engines I've blown.....especially in Nascar......but I learnt to drive race-cars on F1GP which is fitted with that Oh-so-high-tech piece of European equipment (apparently not available in the US).....a rev-limiter!!! B-) Be interesting to know though.....especially when crap-braking on my part has been making me wonder if, following a comment Mark Blundell made in Autosport, whether left-foot braking is supported and/or useful in Papyrus sims. Anyone? Biggest problem with their sims (I think) when it comes to braking is perhaps one of the presentation rather than the physics.....I get the impression that it's possible for the car to be partially or fully locked up and sliding, with no audible or other warning until you hit the walls. This is my best explanation for rather wierd behaviour.....Rick??? Cheers! --- * RM 1.3 U0414 * That's logic and as such has nothing to do with my position

: Be interesting to know though.....especially when crap-braking on my : part has been making me wonder if, following a comment Mark Blundell : made in Autosport, whether left-foot braking is supported and/or useful : in Papyrus sims. Anyone? Yes, you can left-foot brake.

Subject: Re: ICR2: Short-shifting SB>What is short-shifting? That's when you hit the clutch up before the tachometer hits 3/4ths of the way to the red line. like the 6 or 7 on NCAR Benjamin Fields --- t OLXWin 1.00b t Unable to locate Coffee -- Operator Halted!

: What is short-shifting? This is shifting up early (before the optimum rpm is reached). This is done on the road courses to conserve fuel. This also tends to reduce you lap time. At least I think this is what it means. The reason I asked the question is cuz the manual states, "Shifting up too early will lead to decreased performance and wasted fuel." Maybe the key word is "too" early. Any experts want to shed some light on this? -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Carver) writes: >: What is short-shifting? >This is shifting up early (before the optimum rpm is reached). This is >done on the road courses to conserve fuel. This also tends to reduce >you lap time. At least I think this is what it means. The reason I >asked the question is cuz the manual states, "Shifting up too early will

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>lead to decreased performance and wasted fuel." Maybe the key word is >"too" early. >Any experts want to shed some light on this? >-- >**************************** Michael E. Carver

************************* > Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Generally speaking, short shifting is used to conserve fuel. In other words, lets say you come out of a corner in 2nd gear and normally you reach 4th gear before going into the next corner, if you use short shifting and increase your gears to 5th or 6th prior to entering the corner, you will conserve fuel because you were able to keep your RPM lower through that section of track (that was alot to say in one sentence). However, the downfall of using this tactic is that you will probably have lowered your average speed and increased your lap time. Obviously, this tactic may be employed to lengenthen the amount of laps between pitting for fuel (maybe toward the end of the race when you are leading by a good amount of time). Just remember HIGH RPM = HIGH SPEED = LOTS OF FUEL. Hopes this helps. John +++++++++++++++++++++

MC> This is shifting up early (before the optimum rpm is reached). This MC> is done on the road courses to conserve fuel. This also tends to MC> reduce you lap time. At least I think this is what it means Sometimes it also means keeping the revs down, and the tourque high which will cut down on the chances of wheelspin......optimal for driving in the wet, out of a gravel bed (my specialty), etc. At least that's in the real world, as I've understood it.....what it means in Papyrus-land (which as we know isn't quite the same) who knows. Cheers! --- * RM 1.3 U0414 * SET PATIENCE=It'll.Be.Great.And.We'll.All.Be.Proud

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>: What is short-shifting? >This is shifting up early (before the optimum rpm is reached). This is >done on the road courses to conserve fuel. This also tends to reduce >you lap time. At least I think this is what it means. The reason I >asked the question is cuz the manual states, "Shifting up too early will >lead to decreased performance and wasted fuel." Maybe the key word is >"too" early. >Short shifting is sometimes used to avoid extra wheelspinning when accelerating out of the corners. Its used especially in the wet conditions.

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