Help !!!! NASCAR with WIN 95

I need to know how to load NASCAR in WIN95. A friend is having problems and he want's me to help. The problem is I have yet to use WIN95. I do not know what to expect when I get started. If someone would please send detailed instructions on how to load and run NASCAR and/or INDYCAR II. I run Windows 3.11 (never 95) so please make instructions WIN95 Idiot proof. If possible ! Any help on this matter will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, ******* #28 ***** #7 ***** #51 ***** #70 ******* Dave Long Memphis TN Go #6, #94, #28, #75 Remington Firearms

Getting NASCAR Racing to run under Windows 95 Navigate to your NASCAR directory, and right click on the NASCAR.EXE file. You'll get a property sheet with six tabs at the top. Change to the program page of the sheet. From here, you can enter the any command line options (such as the -h and/or -f option) in the Cmd line text box. For example, my command line reads: C:\GAMES\NASCAR\NASCAR.EXE -h -f Here's where it gets tricky: there are two methods you can try: Method 1: (Try this first. If it doesn't work, then try Method 2.) Click the "advanced" button. Go to the property sheet for NASCAR, choose program, advanced, and just check the "Prevent MS-DOS-based programs from detecting Windows" check box. Next, go to the Misc. tab and make sure the 'Allow Screensaver' box is UNchecked. NOTE: Method 1 is more likely to work if you have a 'healthy' machine that is running all 32-bit VxDs (virtual device drivers) and few (if any) of the old 16-bit 'real mode' drivers. This method works great on my machine (Pentium 90 with 16 megs and no real-mode drivers). -Spyder Method 2: Click the "advanced" button. Check the "MS-DOS mode" checkbox. Choose to "Specify a new MS-DOS configuration". Enter in a minimum config.sys and autoexec.bat for playing NASCAR. Here is an example (may be different on your machine): CONFIG.SYS ---------- DOS=HIGH,UMB DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS AUTOEXEC.BAT ------------ SET PATH=C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND SET SOUND=C:\SB16 SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6 In either case, click OK to accept the changes you made in the advanced options dialog. Then, click OK again to accept the changes to the properties. You will now notice that you've got a new ShortCut called "Nascar". Copy that to either your Windows\Start_Menu\Programs directory, or your Windows\Desktop directory for easy access. With Method 2, when you run that shortcut, Windows will ask you if it's OK to shut down other apps. If you answer yes, Windows will shut down, restart your machine w/ the AutoExec and Config from above, and run NASCAR. When the game ends, Windows will restart. Not a perfect system, but it does work if Method 1 doesn't work for you. The last option is to wait for the Win95 version of NASCAR to show up some time in 1996. <g>. Excerpted from Chris Mahnken Compu$erve 71064,533

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>I need to know how to load NASCAR in WIN95. >A friend is having problems and he want's me to help. >The problem is I have yet to use WIN95. I do not know what to expect >when I get started. >If someone would please send detailed instructions on how to load and >run NASCAR and/or INDYCAR II. I run Windows 3.11 (never 95) so please >make instructions WIN95 Idiot proof. If possible ! >Any help on this matter will be greatly appreciated. >Thanks in advance, >******* #28 ***** #7 ***** #51 ***** #70 ******* >Dave Long >Memphis TN >Go #6, #94, #28, #75 Remington Firearms

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> Getting NASCAR Racing to run under Windows 95 > Here's where it gets tricky: there are two methods you can try: > Method 1: (Try this first. If it doesn't work, then try Method 2.) > Click the "advanced" button. Go to the property sheet for NASCAR, choose > program, advanced, and just check the "Prevent MS-DOS-based programs from > detecting Windows" check box. Next, go to the Misc. tab and make sure > the 'Allow Screensaver' box is UNchecked.

This is the way I run Nascar on my machine as well, but it only seems to work if Nascar Racing is the first DOS program to run in a given session of Win95. I thought that I had seen this posted somewhere as a known problem with the Nascar/Win95 combo. Tt gets to the title screen and then just locks up the computer, even Ctrl/Alt/Del does nothing. I was just curious if this ever happens to you or anyone else? -- Eric T. Busch Emory University

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> Below is a quote from Microsoft's advice on MS DOS games and Win95 > taken from their Web site. In my case I had to delete all the old 16 > bit SB AWE drivers from my config files and use only the Win95 drivers > before Nascar would run, but I do have exactly the problem they > describe - i.e. It will only run with the sound turned on if it is > NOT the first DOS game to use the soundcard. I don't know if anyone > has a fix for this?

That's kind of strange. For me that is the only time that Nascar is guarenteed to work: i.e. when it IS the FIRST MS-Dos game to use the soundcard. I too have no 16-bit drivers (I don't even have a Autoexec.bat or config.sys). Often after playing DarkForces (or any other DOS game for that matter), booting up Nascar will lock up the system, other times it does not. Go figure... -- Eric T. Busch Emory University

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>This is the way I run Nascar on my machine as well, but it only seems to >work if Nascar Racing is the first DOS program to run in a given session >of Win95. I thought that I had seen this posted somewhere as a known >problem with the Nascar/Win95 combo. Tt gets to the title screen and >then just locks up the computer, even Ctrl/Alt/Del does nothing. I was >just curious if this ever happens to you or anyone else? >-- >Eric T. Busch >Emory University

Below is a quote from Microsoft's advice on MS DOS games and Win95 taken from their Web site. In my case I had to delete all the old 16 bit SB AWE drivers from my config files and use only the Win95 drivers before Nascar would run, but I do have exactly the problem they describe - i.e. It will only run with the sound turned on if it is NOT the first DOS game to use the soundcard. I don't know if anyone has a fix for this? Microsoft say that version 1.0 of Nascar requires DOS mode, so David Long's friend should get the patch from Papyrus' Web site if his version is not 1.21. I don't know about Indycar II but Indycar I will only run in DOS mode for me. From Microsoft: " NOTE: The 1.2 patch of NASCAR.EXE runs in Windows 95, with some reservations: - If this is the first MS-DOS-based program that uses the sound card after the system is restarted, it hangs the system. - If this is the second MS-DOS-based program that uses the sound card, it works correctly. - With this patch, the program works properly at any time if the sound card is disabled in Device Manager. " David Evans

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>This is the way I run Nascar on my machine as well, but it only seems to >work if Nascar Racing is the first DOS program to run in a given session >of Win95. I thought that I had seen this posted somewhere as a known >problem with the Nascar/Win95 combo. Tt gets to the title screen and >then just locks up the computer, even Ctrl/Alt/Del does nothing. I was >just curious if this ever happens to you or anyone else? >-- >Eric T. Busch >Emory University

I have this problem whenever I run Pegasus Mail or Netscape prior to running Nascar. Another interesting problem I have is that when I exit the first session of Nascar a second session begins. In other words, I have to exit Nascar twice to finally return to Win95.

>> Below is a quote from Microsoft's advice on MS DOS games and Win95 >> taken from their Web site. In my case I had to delete all the old 16 >> bit SB AWE drivers from my config files and use only the Win95 drivers >> before Nascar would run, but I do have exactly the problem they >> describe - i.e. It will only run with the sound turned on if it is >> NOT the first DOS game to use the soundcard. I don't know if anyone >> has a fix for this? My NASCAR runs every time. I've never seen any problem like you guys describe. I shutdown Win95 to MSDOS run the game, exit the game go into WIN95 again with no problems. I can create an icon in WIN95 and run it in MSDOS mode and it works fine. I can boot WIN95 striaght to DOS mode and it works fine. -- Lannie Schafroth

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>>> Below is a quote from Microsoft's advice on MS DOS games and Win95 >>> taken from their Web site. In my case I had to delete all the old >16 >>> bit SB AWE drivers from my config files and use only the Win95 >drivers >>> before Nascar would run, but I do have exactly the problem they >>> describe - i.e. It will only run with the sound turned on if it is >>> NOT the first DOS game to use the soundcard. I don't know if anyone >>> has a fix for this? >My NASCAR runs every time. I've never seen any problem like >you guys describe. I shutdown Win95 to MSDOS run the game, >exit the game go into WIN95 again with no problems. I can >create an icon in WIN95 and run it in MSDOS mode and it works >fine. I can boot WIN95 striaght to DOS mode and it works >fine. >Lannie Schafroth

I'm talking about running it in full screen mode under Win95 without exiting to DOS. David Evans

Do you have any stuttering video problems running this way. Since you are still running Win95 if you have any other Windows apps running that would steal processing time from the simulator. I found stuttering (I always have certain programs running in Windows) so I create an Icon which loads DOS (without rebooting),. That gives me my Win95 sound drivers and no stuttering video. Running in full screen mode may not work for everyone. --- Frank ----

: >I'm talking about running it in full screen mode under Win95 without : >exiting to DOS. : Do you have any stuttering video problems running this way. Since you : are still running Win95 if you have any other Windows apps running : that would steal processing time from the simulator. : I found stuttering (I always have certain programs running in Windows) : so I create an Icon which loads DOS (without rebooting),. That gives : me my Win95 sound drivers and no stuttering video. Running in full : screen mode may not work for everyone. : --- Frank ---- Is there anyway to use your sound card with out being in windows and using their driver? Hopefully so, or else Microsoft has really got us by the balls this time. Running in the Windows DOS prompt is _five_ times slower (with just default apps going on) than the 'reboot to DOS' prompt. If Microsoft is loading up new computers with sound cards that will only run on Window 95 and no other options, we must revolt. It's definitely an attempt at world domination which wouldn't be that bad if their stuff didn't operate so darn poorly. Matt Always fighting for a more free, better, faster computer world.