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ICR2 bug: No over-revving warning light!

14 posts by 9 people · 19 Jan 1996 - 26 Feb 1996

Harald Boer 19 Jan 1996#311153
Well, the subject says it all. I' ve been playing ICR2 now for a couple of weeks and I just found out that there is no warning light when over-revving. It's not a big deal, but it would be nice if this is fixed in the first patch. Am I the only one who noticed this, because I never read this on this newsgroup. Harald
Doug Reichl 20 Jan 1996#311211
: Well, the subject says it all. I' ve been playing ICR2 now for a couple of : weeks and I just found out that there is no warning light when over-revving. : It's not a big deal, but it would be nice if this is fixed in the first : patch. It's not a warning light, it's a warning sound. The sound of your motor venting. Then the RPMs go out. All too common in ICR2. Real racecars have rev limiters, but not in this GAME.
zo.. 22 Jan 1996#311326
>Well, the subject says it all. I' ve been playing ICR2 now for a couple of >weeks and I just found out that there is no warning light when over-revving. >It's not a big deal, but it would be nice if this is fixed in the first patch. >Am I the only one who noticed this, because I never read this on this >newsgroup. >Harald Well, you're the first one to mention this but I noticed the same thing. As the matter of fact, I think the lay-out of the dash in ICR (old version) is much better than ICR 2's dash. Easier to read, anyway.
jpota.. 22 Jan 1996#311327
: : Well, the subject says it all. I' ve been playing ICR2 now for a couple of : : weeks and I just found out that there is no warning light when over-revving. : : It's not a big deal, but it would be nice if this is fixed in the first : : patch. : It's not a warning light, it's a warning sound. The sound of your motor : venting. Then the RPMs go out. All too common in ICR2. : Real racecars have rev limiters, but not in this GAME. What Doug Reichley was talking about was the red light on the dashboard that's supposed to turn on to warn you when something bad is happening to the car (ie. low on fuel, engine too hot, over reving, etc). According to the manual one of it's functions it to go no when you are over reving the engine. It does not. It does how ever go on when you are low on fuel. -- JASON POTAPOFF. Edmonton, Alberta, Canada This space for rent.
Craig Hopki 28 Jan 1996#311728
Harald, You are definitely not the first to notice it and it definitely IS a big deal when the manual says something and the game does something else. Craig. ************************************************************** * Canberra, Australia * **************************************************************
John Ka 28 Jan 1996#311729
Quoted text (12 lines)>You are definitely not the first to notice it and it definitely IS a >big deal when the manual says something and the game does something >else. >Craig. >>Well, the subject says it all. I' ve been playing ICR2 now for a couple of >>weeks and I just found out that there is no warning light when over-revving. >>It's not a big deal, but it would be nice if this is fixed in the first patch. >>Am I the only one who noticed this, because I never read this on this >>newsgroup.
Harald and Craig: The over rev light fix is already in the patch being put together by Papy and due out in a couple weeks. John Kane
Craig Hopki 03 Feb 1996#312087
Quoted text (21 lines)>: : Well, the subject says it all. I' ve been playing ICR2 now for a couple of >: : weeks and I just found out that there is no warning light when over-revving. >: : It's not a big deal, but it would be nice if this is fixed in the first >: : patch. >: It's not a warning light, it's a warning sound. The sound of your motor >: venting. Then the RPMs go out. All too common in ICR2. >: Real racecars have rev limiters, but not in this GAME. > What Doug Reichley was talking about was the red light on the dashboard >that's supposed to turn on to warn you when something bad is happening to >the car (ie. low on fuel, engine too hot, over reving, etc). According >to the manual one of it's functions it to go no when you are over reving >the engine. It does not. It does how ever go on when you are low on >fuel. >-- >JASON POTAPOFF. Edmonton, Alberta, Canada >This space for rent.
Lets be accurate about this: My copy of the manual says: (page 7) "Master Warning Light - Blinking indicates high water temperature, low fuel or over-revving" (page 84) "... you'll want the engine light to just barely flicker at the end of the ..." (page 84) "If the engine warning light blinks excessively, lengthen the gear ratios". It is a bug and hopefully will be rectified in V 1.1. Craig. ************************************************************** * Canberra, Australia * **************************************************************
Doug Reichl 03 Feb 1996#312088
: Lets be accurate about this: My copy of the manual says: : (page 7) "Master Warning Light - Blinking indicates high water : temperature, low fuel or over-revving" : (page 84) "... you'll want the engine light to just barely flicker at : the end of the ..." : (page 84) "If the engine warning light blinks excessively, lengthen : the gear ratios". : It is a bug and hopefully will be rectified in V 1.1. Let's be realistic about it. The overrev light is only useful when in 5th or 6th gear when on OVALS ONLY. Ok, if you get technical, it might be used on a road course, IF it has a long straight, such as Toronto. Here's why. The revs are coming up so fast when accelerating through the gears that by the time you even think about seeing the light, the SOUND of your engine venting is likely to happen first. You just can NOT overrev this game as it pops the motor quicker than Uncle Sam takes taxes out of your check. Let's say that the overrev light is programmed to come on at 14,300rpm. The motor is programmed to pop at 14,800rpm. When accelerating through the gears, this 500rpm difference is quicker to happen than the light coming on. Therefore, if you 'see' the light, it's too late. I'd MUCH rather see a rev LIMITER feature, possibly that could be turned off for the poor souls that think racing motors are a dime a dozen and like the sound of a piston blasting through a cylinder wall. A rev limiter would be mucho realistic as EVERY Indycar has them, including the lowest teams (that can't afford motors anyway). FWIW, it's very frustrating to be jamming through the gears, hit the shift button at 14,000rpm and have the program 'miss' the button or, more likely, the joystick button malfunctions and POP there goes the motor only 5 laps from the end of the race. A rev limiter would prevent this.
Craig Hopki 08 Feb 1996#312328
Doug, No dispute from me concerning your logical and well presented arguments. My post was really aimed at Papryus for saying one thing and doing another; despite the 16 names listed in the manual for quality assurance! Cheers, Craig. ************************************************************** * Canberra, Australia * **************************************************************
Gregory Fu 12 Feb 1996#312528
>I disagree. Since I am new at this simulator and easily distracted >with all the tasks required of the driver, I would like to see a >rev-limitor option so that I could do my own shifting without fear of >blowing the engine and having to restart over and over again. While we're at it, how bout a PIT rev limitor so you don't get black flaged? Gregory Fung Vancouver, B.C., Canada Papyrus Racing Organization 95 Champion IICC3 Ground Effects/Rebel Alliance Lola-Ford-Firestone
RickGent 12 Feb 1996#312529
Try autobraking (Alt-B to toggle on/off). Rick Genter Technical Lead, IndyCar Racing II Papyrus Design Group, Inc.
>Fung) writes: >>While we're at it, how bout a PIT rev limitor so you don't get black >>flaged? >Try autobraking (Alt-B to toggle on/off). Hey? Whats this? My manual does not know about this alt-b. And neither did it say anything about that restart race key. Are there any other undocumented keys that we should know about? Or is it just the European manual? -- <-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-> < Tero Turtiainen | Yes Sir, may I*** your boots or do your Highness > <-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=->
RickGent 13 Feb 1996#312611
Alt-H = toggle autoshifting Shift-R = restart race 1-9 = turn on/off/auto various graphics details Rick Genter Technical Lead, IndyCar Racing II Papyrus Design Group, Inc.
Craig Hopki 26 Feb 1996#313355
Quoted text (9 lines)>>Fung) writes: >>>While we're at it, how bout a PIT rev limitor so you don't get black >>>flaged? >>Try autobraking (Alt-B to toggle on/off). >Hey? Whats this? My manual does not know about this alt-b. And neither did >it say anything about that restart race key. Are there any other undocumented >keys that we should know about? Or is it just the European manual? >--
It was in the V1.2 readme. Alt-H to toggle auto gears. ****************************************************************************** Canberra, Australia IGN4 QANTAS Airways #75 Pontiac - Rick Higbee Motorsports IVL Toys-R-Us #43 Pontiac - Rick Higbee Motorsports IICC3 QANTAS Toys-R-Us #77 Honda Reynard - Team Oz Racing http://www.ozemail.com.au/~hoppy1 ******************************************************************************

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