INDYCAR and WIN95 HELP!!!

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| Subject: INDYCAR and WIN95 HELP!!!!! | | l indycar seems not to be able to detect that the modem is there | Has anybody else got INDYCAR and win95 to work over the modem if | l you settings and what modem you have!!! | | Cheers | Tommy | | so can you tell me how | l I am having modem problems | I cannot get Indycar to run under Win95 |

ICR2 should be run in DOS mode. A Win95 version will be out later this year. Dave Henrie * JABBER v1.1 * "Dammit Jim, I'm a Doctor not a Do...er, I'll get right on it." -- | Fidonet: Dave Henrie 1:346/25 | Fido -> Internet/Usenet via Net 346 Services

For anyone that is having trouble running DOS games under Win95..read on! Regardless of what Microsoft tells you, DOS based games are happiest when run under DOS...end of story. If you want a sure-fire, guaranteed way of playing your games the way they were designed, just do the following: 1) Find the file MSDOS.SYS on your boot drive (usually C:). You'll have to turn off the hidden, system, and read-only attributes for the file. You can do this by changing the properties of the file in Explorer. Then make a copy of the file for posterity (and peace of mind). Call it MSDOS.BK or something. 2) Edit the original file using WordPad or the editor of your choice. 3) Make it look like this (before the part that says "The following lines are required..."). The arrowed part on the right is my comments on each line...delete my comments. Start ------------------------------- [Paths] WinDir=C:\WIN95 <=these 3 lines you can leave alone WinBootDir=C:\WIN95 " " " " " " " HostWinBootDrv=C " " " " " " " [Options] BootMenu=1 <=this turns on a Boot Manager Menu BootMe***fault=1 <=this sets the default to WIN95 BootMe***lay=5 <=after 5 seconds, boot the default BootMulti=1 <=enables multisystem booting BootGUI=1 <=set to zero to boot to a WIN95 C: prompt Network=1 <=you figure it out... :) ; ------------------------------- End NOTE THAT REPLACING THE "1" WITH "0" DISABLES ANY OPTIONS ------------------------------- 4) Re-install DOS 6.x (or PC-DOS 7) into the C:\DOS directory. A wise move would have been to Zip your DOS directory before installing '95, in which case you could just unzip it, but if you didn't, re-install it. Win95 install deletes and modifies some files, so you'll need to reinstall. If you have a copy of your original DOS intact, it's easier to copy them back in than to reinstall. 5) After re-installing, check that MSDOS.SYS is still the same. If not, put the above back. Now when you fire up your PC, you'll have a menu of choices before Win95 starts. On my system, item 8 is "Boot to previous operating system", which was DOS 6.2. DISCLAIMER: This worked fine on my machine, but don't hold me responsible for damages... :) Good luck and happy racing! =================================== Neil Yeatman, Ajax, Ontario, CANADA =====================

On Fri, 12 Jan 1996 20:03:40 -0500, Neil Yeatman >For anyone that is having trouble running DOS games under Win95..read >on! Regardless of what Microsoft tells you, DOS based games are Yeah, and you can use MS-DOS mode by clicking on the advanced button in the program's properties sheet. A much better way to do this because you can have a specific Config.sys and Autoexec.bat. No offense, but if you want to do the other way you might as well reload DOS 6.22. Let go of the past :) Mike

: No offense, but if you want to do the other way you might as well : reload DOS 6.22. : Let go of the past :) : Mike I have my system set up as a dual-boot. When the 'Starting Windows 95' message appears, I press F4 to go into DOS 6.22 instead of Win95. Much better for games, I don't have to keep going into and out of Win95's "dos mode".

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>writes >>Yeah, and you can use MS-DOS mode by clicking on the advanced button >>in the program's properties sheet. A much better way to do this >>because you can have a specific Config.sys and Autoexec.bat. >>No offense, but if you want to do the other way you might as well >>reload DOS 6.22. >>Let go of the past :) >>Mike >Oh yeah? So I want to have a game of ICR2, so I go alllllllll the way >into Win95, start ICR2 in DOS mode which dumps me alllllllll the way out >of Win95 and then when I finish the machine will reboot to reload Win95 >and I'll go alllllll the way back in? >Truly the way of the future..... >Alternatively I can tap F8 and load it straight from multi-config as I >did in the terrible days of DOS 6.22. Now let me see, which one is the >most user friendly.... >Embrace the future whole-heartedly only when it's sane to do so. >Cheers! >John >-- >John Wallace

Actually the easiest for me is just to click the "sugggest msdos mode as necessary" box in advanced properties. The you can run the game without going to dos and it runs just as fast... honest! Sandman

> No offense, but if you want to do the other way you might as well > reload DOS 6.22. I have..or did you misunderstand what I wrote? I will, as soon as I can figure out a way to quadruple boot DOS, Win95, NT Workstation, and Warp! The whole reason I posted those instructions was to help out the dozens of people who posted "Help!!!" messages...virtually every installation of Win95 I've seen (and I've seen a lot, trust me) works a little bit differently... Neil

I will, as soon as I can figure out a way to quadruple boot DOS, Win95, NT Workstation, and Warp! <<< I've used System Commander from V Communications to do something similar. V claims that System Command can multi-boot some ridiculously large number of operating systems (20? 99? more than I'd ever have disk space for on one computer :-). Rick Genter Technical Lead, IndyCar Racing II Papyrus Design Group, Inc.

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>I will, as soon as I can figure out a way to quadruple boot DOS, Win95, NT >Workstation, >and Warp! ><<< >I've used System Commander from V Communications to do something similar. >V claims that System Command can multi-boot some ridiculously large number >of operating systems (20? 99? more than I'd ever have disk space for on >one computer :-).

How much is one of those System Commanders? Dave.

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>: No offense, but if you want to do the other way you might as well >: reload DOS 6.22. >: Let go of the past :) >: Mike >I have my system set up as a dual-boot. When the 'Starting Windows 95' >message appears, I press F4 to go into DOS 6.22 instead of Win95. Much >better for games, I don't have to keep going into and out of Win95's "dos >mode".

Actually, I haven't found a game yet that I have to go back to Dos6 for. So instead of using F4 to boot into Dos6 for games which require DOS mode, I hit the F8 key to bring up the boot menu and select number 6 - "Command Prompt only" which brings up the Win95 C: prompt. From here I can run whatever game I want with the batch files I've set up, and when I'm done I can type "win" to load the GUI portion of Windows without having to reboot. It saves me a few minutes. On a related note, I've heard of a utility which allows Win95 to "boot" into DOS mode by simply unloading itself instead of an actual reboot back to the bios screen. Has anyone else heard of this animal, or know it's name or where to find it? Thanks, Keith Keith Suderman | Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada | work and 50% mathematics... Computer Science IV |

: >: No offense, but if you want to do the other way you might as well : >: reload DOS 6.22. : >: Let go of the past :) : >: Mike : >I have my system set up as a dual-boot. When the 'Starting Windows 95' : >message appears, I press F4 to go into DOS 6.22 instead of Win95. Much : >better for games, I don't have to keep going into and out of Win95's "dos : >mode". : Actually, I haven't found a game yet that I have to go back to Dos6 : for. So instead of using F4 to boot into Dos6 for games which require : DOS mode, I hit the F8 key to bring up the boot menu and select number : 6 - "Command Prompt only" which brings up the Win95 C: prompt. From : here I can run whatever game I want with the batch files I've set up, : and when I'm done I can type "win" to load the GUI portion of Windows : without having to reboot. It saves me a few minutes. ....... In a recent test of math(only) operations I ran on a Dell 133 we have here, I found that in the Win95 c:prompt the machine performed 5 times slower(!!!) than in a dry boot to dos 6.22. In fact with Win95, the 133 runs at the same speed as the Zeos P75(Dos 6.22) down the hall! Windows95 seems ok for doing the windows stuff, but a real dog when it's time to just get things done. Matt

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> >I have my system set up as a dual-boot. When the 'Starting Windows 95' > >message appears, I press F4 to go into DOS 6.22 instead of Win95. > Actually, I haven't found a game yet that I have to go back to Dos6 > for. So instead of using F4 to boot into Dos6 for games which require > DOS mode, I hit the F8 key to bring up the boot menu and select number > 6 - "Command Prompt only" which brings up the Win95 C: prompt. From > here I can run whatever game I want with the batch files I've set up, > and when I'm done I can type "win" to load the GUI portion of Windows > without having to reboot. It saves me a few minutes.

Since W95 includes a full version of DOS, I don't know of any reason to keep DOS 6 around. If you want to normally boot to a command line, just make sure "bootGUI" is set to zero in your msdos.sys file. The system will boot to the DOS prompt. You can then type "win" to start windows. See the following URL for more info: http://www.creativelement.com/win95ann/msdossys.html If you select "shutdown" from windows it just goes back to DOS. The problem is that's it displaying that picture about being OK to turn off -- --------------- Scott Pritchett

: On a related note, I've heard of a utility which allows Win95 to : "boot" into DOS mode by simply unloading itself instead of an actual : reboot back to the bios screen. Has anyone else heard of this animal, : or know it's name or where to find it? Try typing "mode co80" when you get the "safe to turn off your machine" screen.