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FFB update

2 posts by 1 person · 13 Oct 2011 20:24 UTC - 14 Oct 2011 23:43 UTC

Mario Petrinovic 13 Oct 2011 20:24 UTC#309
Where am I now? Well, it looks like I am on the right track, finaly. It looks like "the key" is in adjusting Centering Spring (unchecked). It isn't hard to do (on my, well trimmed system). You just put both, Damper and Spring at 0% (you leave in-game at 40.0/100), and test Centering Spring settings (when you put Damper and Spring at 0% it is a clean signal, not disturbed by Spring and Damper, and you can easily see what is going on regarding Centering Spring). When you find a setting that doesn't give you a snap-loose condition, this is it. I test this at The Milwaukee Mile, with Silver Crown, advanced setup. On my system the correct value for Centering Spring is 22%. What about Spring and Damper? Well I still didn't test it thoroughly, but at the first glance it looks like their settings aren't linked. I like Spring to be somewhere around 120%, and Damper around 95%, but I still have to test all this all-through. But, it looks like the major thing is Centering Spring, when you set this correctly it is easy to find the right Damper and Spring settings. If Centering Spring isn't set correctly, incorrect position interacts strangely with Spring and Damper, and you can be easily confused by this. Mario
Mario Petrinovic:
Quoted text (19 lines)> Where am I now? > Well, it looks like I am on the right track, finaly. It looks like > "the key" is in adjusting Centering Spring (unchecked). It isn't hard to > do (on my, well trimmed system). You just put both, Damper and Spring at > 0% (you leave in-game at 40.0/100), and test Centering Spring settings > (when you put Damper and Spring at 0% it is a clean signal, not disturbed > by Spring and Damper, and you can easily see what is going on regarding > Centering Spring). When you find a setting that doesn't give you a > snap-loose condition, this is it. I test this at The Milwaukee Mile, with > Silver Crown, advanced setup. On my system the correct value for Centering > Spring is 22%. > What about Spring and Damper? Well I still didn't test it > thoroughly, but at the first glance it looks like their settings aren't > linked. I like Spring to be somewhere around 120%, and Damper around 95%, > but I still have to test all this all-through. But, it looks like the > major thing is Centering Spring, when you set this correctly it is easy to > find the right Damper and Spring settings. If Centering Spring isn't set > correctly, incorrect position interacts strangely with Spring and Damper, > and you can be easily confused by this.
I didn't have much time today for testing, but during that little time, interesting things happened. It really is crucial to set Centering Spring (unchecked) correctly, because this allows you to really see what is going on. In short, Damper at 100% gives me too much friction, so I lowered it where I don't feel friction, at 90%. Then I messed up with Springs (for setting up those things use something like Corvette at some road course). I noticed that high Spring is too "springy", so I lowered it. At 110% it is still "springy", but at 109% it develops a slack. This is clearly wrong, so I went back to 110% of Spring, although it is too "springy". Then I started to lower Damper (becaue I noticed from previous testings that Damper can mess up things that way), at 89% FFB was better, less "springy", at 88% it was actually pretty good, even less "springy", and nice full feel (no slack). Now its time for bed so I will not test further today, I presume that the next time I'll go testing (for at least two days from now) it will be even better, actually it should be just right. Mario

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