ICR2 (Drivers Missing?)

ICR2 is great, but what are some drivers missing? Specifically: Jacques, Andretti, and Teo. Thanks, VMS.WWW.UWPLATT.EDU/~DUCAT

: ICR2 is great, but what are some drivers missing? : Specifically: : Jacques, : Andretti, : and Teo. As far as I know Papyrus just didn't get the rights to use these cars in their game. All we can do is wait for the _real_ '95 car set which hopefully will be on the net soon ;-) Bye, Michael ----------------------------------- | Michael Koppenhoefer at | | University of Karlsruhe, Germany | -----------------------------------

sounds like a lot of work. perhaps people working on this could announce themselves and work together. someone could coordinate and assign cars to people to paint. i haven't got the game yet (until 11 dec!)so don't know how much work is involved, but the cars in the demo look pretty detailed to me! _________________________________________________________ Harrier Storage Solutions Legato NetWorker 42 Ivanhoe Road, Finchampstead AMASS, Baydel Berkshire, RG40 4QQ EuroLogic, Banyan http://www.harrier.com HP, IBM, Sun, DEC Uk Phone 1734 328 282 SG, NT, Novell Fax 731 130 _________________________________________________________

-> ICR2 is great, but what are some drivers missing? -> -> Specifically: -> Jacques, -> Andretti, -> and Teo. So what's the problem??? Papyrus ALWAYS does that! In ICRI, they had Nick Montel instead of Nigel Mansell. In NASCAR, Dale Earnardt (The Grand Champion II) was missing. You are just going to have to wait a few weeks for the CARS95.ZIP to come out. I am sure it will be posted as soon as possible at ftp://didn.doit.wisc.edu/icr\icrII

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>: ICR2 is great, but what are some drivers missing? >: Specifically: >: Jacques, >: Andretti, >: and Teo. >As far as I know Papyrus just didn't get the rights to use these cars in >their game. All we can do is wait for the _real_ '95 car set which hopefully >will be on the net soon ;-) >Bye, Michael

No shit, and what about Paul Tracy.... They probably didn't have the rights to the names of sponsers, but you can't trademark a "public" figure's name. They could have left the name, number, and the color of the car in the game, and just changed the logos... like they did in the original INDYCAR RACING! And some of the drivers that they put in the game... Andrew Craig, give me a break, the President of the PPG CART association?? Anyways, hopefully somebody has made something close to the 1995 season. Wade

ICR2 is great, but what are some drivers missing? <<< Licensing :-(. Rick Genter Technical Lead, IndyCar Racing II Papyrus Design Group, Inc.

On the up side, I thought that having Andrew Craig as a driver in a CART simulation was pretty funny.

They probably didn't have the rights to the names of sponsers, but you can't trademark a "public" figure's name. <<< Actually, you can. Most of the drivers retain the rights to their name and likeness and you have to license them or you can get sued. Someone made the comment to me that licensing must be a swear word to us. My response was that you don't know the half of it... Rick Genter Technical Lead, IndyCar Racing II Papyrus Design Group, Inc.

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>-> ICR2 is great, but what are some drivers missing? >-> >-> Specifically: >-> Jacques, >-> Andretti, >-> and Teo. >So what's the problem??? Papyrus ALWAYS does that! In ICRI, they had >Nick Montel instead of Nigel Mansell. In NASCAR, Dale Earnardt (The >Grand Champion II) was missing. You are just going to have to wait a >few weeks for the CARS95.ZIP to come out. I am sure it will be posted >as soon as possible at ftp://didn.doit.wisc.edu/icr\icrII

Well, I think the problem is,is that there are a total of at least 12 drivers missing: Jacque, Michael, Paul, Teo, Eliseo, Adrian, Eddie, Eric, Dennis, Alessandro, Christian, and Dean. Not to mention, for a twist, one could add the following (from the super-speedways): Scott, Stan, Lyn, Jeff, etc... Nearly forty percent of the drivers from the 95' series are not in the game. Too bad, now I am just going to have to use this "buggy" DOS paintkit and make my own... Wade

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>>-> ICR2 is great, but what are some drivers missing? >>-> >>-> Specifically: >>-> Jacques, >>-> Andretti, >>-> and Teo. >>So what's the problem??? Papyrus ALWAYS does that! In ICRI, they

had >>Nick Montel instead of Nigel Mansell. In NASCAR, Dale Earnardt (The >>Grand Champion II) was missing. You are just going to have to wait a >>few weeks for the CARS95.ZIP to come out. I am sure it will be posted

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>>as soon as possible at ftp://didn.doit.wisc.edu/icr\icrII >Well, I think the problem is,is that there are a total of at least 12 >drivers missing: Jacque, Michael, Paul, Teo, Eliseo, Adrian, Eddie, >Eric, Dennis, Alessandro, Christian, and Dean. >Not to mention, for a twist, one could add the following (from the >super-speedways): Scott, Stan, Lyn, Jeff, etc... >Nearly forty percent of the drivers from the 95' series are not in the >game. >Too bad, now I am just going to have to use this "buggy" DOS >paintkit and make my own... >Wade

Thats because all those guys mentioned have the "Professional Sports Figure Syndrome". In other words, they want MONEY in order for Papyrus to use their name. I don't blame Papyrus for not using them in the sim. Besides, whats the big deal, your racing the sim, not Andretti (good thing too, he would probably hit the saftey truck anyway). Mike

: Thats because all those guys mentioned have the "Professional Sports : Figure Syndrome". In other words, they want MONEY in order for Papyrus : to use their name. I don't blame Papyrus for not using them in the sim. : Besides, whats the big deal, your racing the sim, not Andretti (good : thing too, he would probably hit the saftey truck anyway). Maybe yes -- Maybe no. Sometimes the driver has no control over this. It may be tied in with some contract with the sponsor or the team owner. As regarding MA, I am more concerned that he would hit me! -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

>>-> ICR2 is great, but what are some drivers missing? >>-> >>-> Specifically: >>-> Jacques, >>-> Andretti, >>-> and Teo. I've heard that the rights on Jacques last name (I don't use it cause I don't want to be sued !) were taken during Gilles career (you know F1...), probably Jacques has no control on that himself... -- Hugo