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Need for Speed: Lost Vegas: 8:12.0

24 posts by 15 people · 19 Oct 1995 - 20 Nov 1995

Need for Speed time-trial records and wheel setup

Sean 'Lephturn' Conrad and others organised informal Need for Speed time-trial competitions track by track, posting best times and top speeds at Lost Vegas, Rusty Springs, Autumn Valley and City. Advice centred on using a joystick or wheel rather than keys. A complaint that the game supported only one joystick was answered by others explaining Thrustmaster's free white adapter for using the T1 wheel and pedals together.

online racing/leagueshardware: wheels/pedalssetup/driving techniqueThe Need for Speed

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>> Wonder of wonders on my 2nd run with the Ferrari I tied Evan, >> and a few dry runs with the Diablo produced a time of 8:26.3. >> Lephturn has mentioned an entry speed of 185 going into the >> first jump, which just amazes me (never over 170 here) so I >> think times of 8:20 or better are achieveable. Yep, If you take the fenced area just right, you should be able to launch at 183-185. It takes a lap or two to build up enough speed. Once you are rolling, you should be pulling 190-200 mph in the wooden section of the track. You will have to use the whole track, and run right to the wall at corner apex. Your line must be perfect through the last six corners in order to maintain your speed. If you manage to do this without squealing your tires, you will be flying when you hit the first jump. You have to back off a bit and enter the right hander at the end at about 178-180. You will have to let off in the middle of the next left down to 160-165. Exiting that corner you should be able to get the car up to 170 or above for the quick right-left S coming up. You must hold 170 through here and stay right up to the wall on the following off camber right. If you can exit the right at 170 or greater, you should be able to build up over 180 through the long sweeping left before the jump. Good show Nig.... I mean Martin. You are gettin close to the best time on Lost Vegas. Time to beat 8:12.0 :) Replay available. Top speed 227.1 mph. best lap is under one minute, but I forget the exact number. I set all three records on the same run. E-mail me if you want me to send it zipped up. Evan and I are now working on Rusty Springs. My best so far is 4:58.3 Total Time, Best Lap 35.8 (Both with 512 TR) and top speed 175.4 mph with the Diablo VT. Evan may have bested this time already so it may not be the fastest. :) Lephturn
: Evan and I are now working on Rusty Springs. : My best so far is 4:58.3 Total Time, Best Lap 35.8 (Both with 512 TR) : and top speed 175.4 mph with the Diablo VT. Evan may have bested this : time already so it may not be the fastest. :) : Lephturn Try to beat THIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All times are Single race whith The Pack ! Coast 7.43.9 - Diablo ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Alpine 10.06.5 - Viper ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ And top SPEED on Vegas whit bonuc Car 260.6 !!!!!!!!!!! ^^^^^ Ivan
Lephtu 20 Oct 1995#306547
Quoted text (14 lines)>: Evan and I are now working on Rusty Springs. >: My best so far is 4:58.3 Total Time, Best Lap 35.8 (Both with 512 TR) >: and top speed 175.4 mph with the Diablo VT. Evan may have bested this >: time already so it may not be the fastest. :) >: Lephturn >Try to beat THIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >All times are Single race whith The Pack ! >Coast 7.43.9 - Diablo >^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >Alpine 10.06.5 - Viper >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >And top SPEED on Vegas whit bonuc Car >260.6 !!!!!!!!!!! >^^^^^
Good run with the Warrior! We started on Vegas and are now working on Rusty Springs. Autumn Valley will be next. We are not using the Bonus car because it is just to realistic. Also, I would like people without the tournaments won to be able to compete and compare times. Maybe when we finnish a round of all the tracks with the regular cars, we will do the same with the bonus car. For now, anyone interested in some friendly competition should start working on Rusty Springs, and soon Autumn Valley. So far my best on Rusty Springs is as follows: This is in Time Trial mode with the Diablo VT. Total Time = 4:57.0 Best Lap = 35.4 seconds Top Speed = 177.0 Evan is very close to this, and may have a faster run (again :>) than this by now. I encourage everyone to give it a shot. Next week sometime we will start working on Autumn Springs. Lephturn
Bing 21 Oct 1995#306573
Quoted text (8 lines)> So far my best on Rusty Springs is as follows: > This is in Time Trial mode with the Diablo VT. > Total Time = 4:57.0 > Best Lap = 35.4 seconds > Top Speed = 177.0 > Lephturn
Wow! Do you guys have steering wheel setups or good joysticks? If you do, then I don't feel as bad. My top speed on Rusty Springs has been a "suicide" 164.5 (I was trying for a top speed record so I didn't even try to make the turn right after the straight section) using the keyboard. Bing
Eva 22 Oct 1995#306598
Quoted text (15 lines)>> So far my best on Rusty Springs is as follows: >> This is in Time Trial mode with the Diablo VT. >> Total Time = 4:57.0 >> Best Lap = 35.4 seconds >> Top Speed = 177.0 >> Lephturn >Wow! Do you guys have steering wheel setups or good joysticks? If you >do, then I don't feel as bad. My top speed on Rusty Springs has been a >"suicide" 164.5 (I was trying for a top speed record so I didn't >even try to make the turn right after the straight section) using >the keyboard.
Yeah, even a cheap joystick will help a *lot*....highly recommended. --Evan
Mike Corrig 25 Oct 1995#306711
I'm game. My best at Rusty Springs (with the TR) is Total Time = 4:56.1 Best Lap = 35.6 seconds Top Speed = 173.5 -- Mike Corrigan
Mike Corrig 29 Oct 1995#306821
Quoted text (19 lines)>Organization: Zagreb , Croatia >Distribution: >: By the way, can anyone beat this at Vertigo Ridge? >: Total Time = 9:28.8 >: Best Lap = 1:32.1 >: Top Speed = 146.7 >: All done with the Supra >Hi guys >Why on earth are you playing just closed tracks, when there are >beautiful and much more demanding ROAD tracks (Alpine Coastline) >where is much more place for inproving speed than on closed >tracks. , or you can t drive tracks with more than 4 four left
corners!!! >Go and try to beat these times : >Coastline 7.43.1 Diablo (Time trial) >Alpine 10.03.5 Viper (Time trail) "Why on earth"?...because we like to! Sorry if that isn't enough for you. "or you can't drive tracks..."? No need to be condescending. In any event, I'd bet that you will find the times posted at Rusty Springs and Vertigo to be quite a challenge. -- Mike Corrigan
Lephtu 29 Oct 1995#306822
Quoted text (23 lines)>>We started on Vegas and are now working on Rusty Springs. Autumn >>Valley will be next. We are not using the Bonus car because it is >>just to realistic. Also, I would like people without the tournaments >>won to be able to compete and compare times. Maybe when we finnish a >>round of all the tracks with the regular cars, we will do the same >>with the bonus car. >>For now, anyone interested in some friendly competition should start >>working on Rusty Springs, and soon Autumn Valley. >>So far my best on Rusty Springs is as follows: >>This is in Time Trial mode with the Diablo VT. >>Total Time = 4:57.0 >>Best Lap = 35.4 seconds >>Top Speed = 177.0 >I'm game. My best at Rusty Springs (with the TR) is >Total Time = 4:56.1 >Best Lap = 35.6 seconds >Top Speed = 173.5 >-- >Mike Corrigan
My final best for this track. Total Time = 4:54.1 - 512 TR Best Lap = 35.3 seconds - 512 TR Top Speed = 177.0 - DIABLO VT This was a damn perfect run. I am moving on to Autumn Springs. :) I got beat on Lost Vegas though :( - Hermit has a 7:59 !! Lephturn
Quoted text (33 lines)>>Organization: Zagreb , Croatia >>Distribution: >>: By the way, can anyone beat this at Vertigo Ridge? >>: Total Time = 9:28.8 >>: Best Lap = 1:32.1 >>: Top Speed = 146.7 >>: All done with the Supra >>Hi guys >>Why on earth are you playing just closed tracks, when there are >>beautiful and much more demanding ROAD tracks (Alpine Coastline) >>where is much more place for inproving speed than on closed >>tracks. , or you can t drive tracks with more than 4 four left >corners!!! >>Go and try to beat these times : >>Coastline 7.43.1 Diablo (Time trial) >>Alpine 10.03.5 Viper (Time trail) >"Why on earth"?...because we like to! Sorry if that isn't >enough for you. >"or you can't drive tracks..."? No need to be condescending. >In any event, I'd bet that you will find the times posted at >Rusty Springs and Vertigo to be quite a challenge. >-- >Mike Corrigan
A few of us have semi-organized ourselves to work on the tracks one at a time. That way, we are all practicing the same ones at the same time. We started with the simpler tracks because we want everyone to be able to participate. New players can follow along, and we will eventually do the whole tourny. Right now we are working on Autumn Springs. Give it a shot! Lephturn
Quoted text (13 lines)>>"or you can't drive tracks..."? No need to be condescending. >>In any event, I'd bet that you will find the times posted at >>Rusty Springs and Vertigo to be quite a challenge. >>-- >>Mike Corrigan >A few of us have semi-organized ourselves to work on the tracks one at >a time. That way, we are all practicing the same ones at the same >time. We started with the simpler tracks because we want everyone to >be able to participate. New players can follow along, and we will >eventually do the whole tourny. >Right now we are working on Autumn Springs. Give it a shot! >Lephturn
Hey sportsfans. The mark to beat for Autumn Valley is as follows. Total Time = 7:46.8 Best Lap = 1:16.2 Both done on the same run, with the 512 TR, in Time Trial mode. Replay available. Well, on to City now.
Jim Wissn 13 Nov 1995#307284
The first question I would ask is, are you using a driving wheel? I'm using the T1, and imagine it would be difficult without a wheel. The second thing I would say, is something somebody else has already said, can't remember who: race consistently. This is definitely as important (or moreso) than going blazingly fast. Jim
Get a good joystick, it will make all the difference in the world, especially if you are using a gamepad or keyboard now. I got a Gravis Analog Pro and find it to be a good joystick, especially considering the price (I got mine for u nder $30) Kevin
Quoted text (13 lines)|> >How on earth are you getting these times? |> >I have had the game a while now and I can |> >only just about win a race at Rusty Springs. |> >I don't even come close on the other tracks. |> >Have you any tips I wonders to me self? |> |> Get a good joystick, it will make all the difference in the world, |> especially if you are using a gamepad or keyboard now. |> |> I got a Gravis Analog Pro and find it to be a good joystick, |> especially considering the price (I got mine for u nder $30) |> |> Kevin
I returned the game when I realized that the game only supports one (1) joystick. The sticker on the box stated: Thrustmaster Steering Wheel!! So, they think, you are going to steer with the weel and accelerate and break with the buttons on the dashboard???? No way! You could call it missleading adverti***t. l8er ronny -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pardon my driving, I'm trying to reload. (somewhere in miami 8^) ) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot. C++ makes it harder, but when you do, it blows away your whole leg." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I could be wrong, but what I have heard from the net is that there is an adapter that comes with the Thrustmaster Steering Wheel (a white one I believe) that allows you to do this. I guess the earlier versions of this wheel didn't have the adapter included, but you can get one by calling the company. You should give this game another try, I think that it is increadibly fun! (and I don't even have a Thrustmaster Steering Wheel...) Kevin
FoxM 14 Nov 1995#307330
Actually, it's the newest versions of the T1-T2 line that don't include the adapter. They will ship you one for free though. Just got mine and love it.
Someone who responded to this article returned the game because it only supports 1 joystick and was complaining of false advertising in that the game cant use the Thrustmaster wheel setup. I had problems at first so I called Thrustmaster who sent me free of charge an adapter to put in line between game card and wheel cables. Everything works great now.(and I don't need to take the adapter off to play NASCAR or INDYCAR)Just shows that sometimes you have to follow through on a problem rather than throw in the towel right away.
Lephtu 15 Nov 1995#307372
>How on earth are you getting these times? >I have had the game a while now and I can >only just about win a race at Rusty Springs. >I don't even come close on the other tracks. >Have you any tips I wonders to me self? >Len Well, practice practice practice. The #1 problem I see is people who don't use a joystick. If you are using a gamepad or the keys, forget it. You need a joystick or a wheel to drive well in this game. The Gravis Analog Pro and the Microsoft Sidewinder are the two sticks I have tried on this game. I set records with both, but I prefer the Sidewinder. The best device is likely a wheel/pedal combo. And YES, you can use the pedals with the T1, you need to use the white adapter that comes with it. The #2 problem is game speed. It is very difficult to control if things are moving slowly. Try turning off a few details, like the sky, and then try it. Several people I have talked to said this made things much easier. Other than that, just check out some replays of tracks you are having trouble with. You can pick up alot of pointers this way. If you want some replays e-mail me. ______ ______ _____ ___ / _____ ________ ___ /_ __ /_____ _________________ __ / _ _ \___ __ \__ __ \_ __/_ / / /__ ___/__ __ \ _ /___/ __/__ /_/ /_ / / // /_ / /_/ / _ / _ / / / /_____/\___/ _ .___/ /_/ /_/ \__/ \__,_/ /_/ /_/ /_/ /_/ Lephturn (Sean Conrad)
Lephtu 15 Nov 1995#307373
Quoted text (13 lines)>: Evan and I are now working on Rusty Springs. >: My best so far is 4:58.3 Total Time, Best Lap 35.8 (Both with 512 TR) >: and top speed 175.4 mph with the Diablo VT. Evan may have bested this >: time already so it may not be the fastest. :) >: Lephturn >Try to beat THIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >All times are Single race whith The Pack ! >Coast 7.43.9 - Diablo >^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >Alpine 10.06.5 - Viper >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >And top SPEED on Vegas whit bonuc Car >260.6 !!!!!!!!!!!
269.5 mph top speed on Vegas with the Warrior. replay available. Also, bests for City are as follows: SEG1 SEG2 SEG3 Total Time Top Speed 1:56.4 2:06.9 3:15.9 7:23.1 202.5 mph T spd: 202.5 175.8 171.5 All with Diablo in T.T. mode. Can anybody out there beat the 3:13 Seg. 3 time that comes with the game on this track? This one is ***y imposible. L8R ______ ______ _____ ___ / _____ ________ ___ /_ __ /_____ _________________ __ / _ _ \___ __ \__ __ \_ __/_ / / /__ ___/__ __ \ _ /___/ __/__ /_/ /_ / / // /_ / /_/ / _ / _ / / / /_____/\___/ _ .___/ /_/ /_/ \__/ \__,_/ /_/ /_/ /_/ /_/ Lephturn (Sean Conrad)
Lephtu 15 Nov 1995#307374
Quoted text (21 lines)>Kramer) writes: >|> >How on earth are you getting these times? >|> >I have had the game a while now and I can >|> >only just about win a race at Rusty Springs. >|> >I don't even come close on the other tracks. >|> >Have you any tips I wonders to me self? >|> >|> Get a good joystick, it will make all the difference in the world, >|> especially if you are using a gamepad or keyboard now. >|> >|> I got a Gravis Analog Pro and find it to be a good joystick, >|> especially considering the price (I got mine for u nder $30) >|> >|> Kevin >I returned the game when I realized that the game only supports one (1) >joystick. The sticker on the box stated: Thrustmaster Steering Wheel!! >So, they think, you are going to steer with the weel and accelerate and >break with the buttons on the dashboard???? No way! >You could call it missleading adverti***t.
No you couldn't. Just use the white adapter that comes with the T1. This will allow you to use the pedals. If you have a really old T1, thrustmaster will mail you one. You should have asked EA for some help before you chucked the game, your missing out on an awsome driving game. ______ ______ _____ ___ / _____ ________ ___ /_ __ /_____ _________________ __ / _ _ \___ __ \__ __ \_ __/_ / / /__ ___/__ __ \ _ /___/ __/__ /_/ /_ / / // /_ / /_/ / _ / _ / / / /_____/\___/ _ .___/ /_/ /_/ \__/ \__,_/ /_/ /_/ /_/ /_/ Lephturn (Sean Conrad)
Quoted text (18 lines)|> > |> >I returned the game when I realized that the game only supports one (1) |> >joystick. The sticker on the box stated: Thrustmaster Steering Wheel!! |> >So, they think, you are going to steer with the weel and accelerate and |> >break with the buttons on the dashboard???? No way! |> > |> >You could call it missleading adverti***t. |> |> I could be wrong, but what I have heard from the net is that there is |> an adapter that comes with the Thrustmaster Steering Wheel (a white |> one I believe) that allows you to do this. I guess the earlier |> versions of this wheel didn't have the adapter included, but you |> can get one by calling the company. |> |> You should give this game another try, I think that it is increadibly |> fun! (and I don't even have a Thrustmaster Steering Wheel...) |> |> Kevin
-- Me stupid! Now I remember stuffing this adapter in the lowest drawer of my desk... Thanks for the hint! l8er ronny -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pardon my driving, I'm trying to reload. (somewhere in miami 8^) ) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot. C++ makes it harder, but when you do, it blows away your whole leg." -- Bjarne Stroustrup on C++ --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bob Dunca 16 Nov 1995#307445
I used my white adapter and it still doesn't work. Doesn't work for Screamer either. The only game that I like that works well with the T1 is NASCAR (without the adapter, of course). Does anybody know what the problem could be? I've tried somebody else's adapter, to no avail. My first suspicion is that the potentiometers on the pedals need to be adjusted, but I have no clue how to do it. Anybody? Thanks in advance. Bob
Tom Piccia 16 Nov 1995#307446
Quoted text (33 lines)>Kramer) writes: >|> >How on earth are you getting these times? >|> >I have had the game a while now and I can >|> >only just about win a race at Rusty Springs. >|> >I don't even come close on the other tracks. >|> >Have you any tips I wonders to me self? >|> >|> Get a good joystick, it will make all the difference in the world, >|> especially if you are using a gamepad or keyboard now. >|> >|> I got a Gravis Analog Pro and find it to be a good joystick, >|> especially considering the price (I got mine for u nder $30) >|> >|> Kevin >I returned the game when I realized that the game only supports one (1) >joystick. The sticker on the box stated: Thrustmaster Steering Wheel!! >So, they think, you are going to steer with the weel and accelerate and >break with the buttons on the dashboard???? No way! >You could call it missleading adverti***t. >l8er >ronny >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Pardon my driving, I'm trying to reload. (somewhere in miami 8^) ) >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot. C++ makes it > harder, but when you do, it blows away your whole leg." >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
HUH???? I've been using Wheel and pedals on NFS for a month now. No problem! I only have one game port out of my Soundblaster card. You need the white adapter that Thrustmaster will send you free if it wasn't in the box. Tom P.
HoKeiKen Ch 19 Nov 1995#307693
Quoted text (13 lines)>>OK, I had this problem untill I re-read the Thrustmaster manual. The >>Thrustmaster comes with a white converter that you plug into, then >>plug into the game port. This WILL MAKE THE FOOTPEDELS WORK! >>You configure them on the same joystick port using the up - down . >>I am driving using all the Thrustmaster T1 controls. >>Keep NFS, it is the best fun! Then let us know what records you have >>set. >I used my white adapter and it still doesn't work. Doesn't work for Screamer >either. The only game that I like that works well with the T1 is NASCAR >(without the adapter, of course). >Does anybody know what the problem could be? I've tried somebody else's >adapter, to no avail. My first suspicion is that the potentiometers on the >pedals need to be adjusted, but I have no clue how to do it.
dont use the game port that on the i/o card, if u have sb card (i think u do), use the game port that on the sb card, becoz some i/o card game port did not suport two joysticks, but the game port on sb card it does. i hope it can help u solve the problem:) -- * Bachelor of Information Technology * * Master of Information System Student ^ ^ * * Griffith University, Australia \_/ *
Bob Dunca 20 Nov 1995#307764
Quoted text (13 lines)>>I used my white adapter and it still doesn't work. Doesn't work for Screamer >>either. The only game that I like that works well with the T1 is NASCAR >>(without the adapter, of course). >>Does anybody know what the problem could be? I've tried somebody else's >>adapter, to no avail. My first suspicion is that the potentiometers on the >>pedals need to be adjusted, but I have no clue how to do it. >dont use the game port that on the i/o card, if u have sb card (i think u >do), use the game port that on the sb card, becoz some i/o card game port >did not suport two joysticks, but the game port on sb card it does. >i hope it can help u solve the problem:)
I think the game card does support two joysticks and is dual port because when I calibrate joysticks in NASCAR the sterring wheel and pedals each register as the same axis on different joysticks (I think X-axis on 1 and 2, steering and pedals, respectively) I'll try a friend's dual port adapter and see what happens though... Any other suggestions? Thanks a lot, Bob

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