INDYCAR - help needed

You're kidding, right? Not even one MEG!? The minimum is four megs. I highly doubt it will run with 617K.

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>>>>(Alan Pengelly) writes: >>>>>Hi >>>>>I've just bought INDYCAR (the earlier release) and tried to get it >>>>>running on my 386. I'm using QEMM386 and have about 617K of conventional >>>>>memory aavailable. However, I can't get INDYCAR to run. The error >>>>>message is :- >>>>>DOS/4GW Professional run time error : not enough memory >>>>>But surely a simulator designed to run on a 386 should work with 617K? >>>>>A friend of mine got it running on his 486 where it runs beautifully - >>>>>Alan >>>>You're kidding, right? Not even one MEG!? The minimum is four megs. I >>>>highly doubt it will run with 617K.

I think you may have it backwards, while four mb is the minimum req., I think he only meant conventional mem. when he said 617k. Not that 617k was his *only* memory. I'm surprised he got that far because I can't run IndyCar or Nascar with QEMM loaded on my 486, I get an error #6 or something, BUT that's beside the point. But the problem is probably still what Mike said , it takes 4 mb. to run ICR & if you don't have it, it won't work. The amount of conventional left should make no difference with DOS/4GW since it is a 32-bit protected mode program, & even though I can't think of how right now I beleive that 32-bit code can work through the memory problems that the 16-bit programs have with the conventional memory. That's my $0.0000000000000000021 worth :-) Lare

Indycar is a 32-bit program, and it uses a 32-bit flat memory model, I.E. it can address up to 4Gig of memory without any swapping. The maximum amount of memory Indy _will_ use is 4MB + more for a longer replay. Before it can activate the 32-bit protected mode, it must load a DOS extender, which is in this case DOS/4GW. DOS/4GW requires about 520k of free conventional memory to start, after which it doesn't matter how much conventional memory you have, as Indy is using the memory directly, without swapping it from extended to conventional. So if you have, say, a 4MB PC, and have loaded smartdrive and allocated 1MB of memory to it, you have only 3MB of momory left, and Indy won't start because it requires 4MB of free total system RAM. rem the smartdrv in your autoexec (and other TSR's possibly) and you should get it to work. btw. kick that QEMM out of your machine too, DOS/4GW doesn't like it at all. Don't load an expanded memory emulator at all if possible, as EMM386 bugs too with DOS/4GW (on some machines) Tommi Pajari

says... Gee, and if you listen to M$ and their Windoze 95 adds, you would think that 32-bit stuff just came to Intel.... :) bryon -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Windows 95, the last of the 32-bit Intel OS's. Bryon S. Lape