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Problems with Wheel and Rbr demo

24 posts by 11 people · 17 Oct 2004 16:37 UTC - 28 Oct 2004 22:14 UTC

Thrustmaster T2 wheel not working in RBR demo

Xander Vlasveld's old Thrustmaster T2 calibrated in Windows but did not respond in the RBR and CMR 2005 demos. Suggestions included new drivers, DXTweak2 and unassigning RBR's combined throttle and brake control. Marc Collins reported Momo problems in RBR that the 1.02 patch later fixed.

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Xander Vlasveld 17 Oct 2004 16:37 UTC#30467
Hi, I thought I should try the rbr demo, and I looks very interesting. So, I looked up my ancient Thrustmaster Formula T2 wheel (analog, with separate pedals for throttle and brake) Removed the dust from the wheel and hooked it up to my precious game station (pc). Added and calibrated it in control panel (using xp sp2), and started up the Rbr demo. And here the fun-Sunday begins (time flies). I go into the control options, and whatever I try, the x-axis, is when I centre the wheel, completely 2 the right, and when I steer to the left, it's centred (would have been normal after me driving and crashing ;)) y-axis, I choose the combined throttle/brake option, and here kinda same story. with no pedals touched, it's full brake, and when throttle fully pressed, it's 80% throttle. I know it's an ancient wheel, but in the control panel of xp, it seems 2 be fully functional. I also googled, found some problems concerning FF and Thrustmaster wheels, but nothing about my specific problem... Any suggestions next to buying a new wheel? Tia, Xander
I got rid of that wheel several years ago cause of poor game compatability problems. Get yourself a Logitech Momo FF, you'll thank yourself big time after a few wonderful gravel powerslides in RBR. FF is amazing in this game!! Xander Vlasveld wrote:
Quoted text (29 lines)> Hi, > > I thought I should try the rbr demo, and I looks very interesting. > So, I looked up my ancient Thrustmaster Formula T2 wheel (analog, with > separate pedals for throttle and brake) > Removed the dust from the wheel and hooked it up to my precious game station > (pc). > Added and calibrated it in control panel (using xp sp2), and started up the > Rbr demo. > And here the fun-Sunday begins (time fl ies.Igointothecontroloptions, > and whatever I try, the x-axis, is when I centre the wheel, completely 2 the > right, and when I steer to the left, it's centred (would have been normal > after me driving and crashing ;)) > y-axis, I choose the combined throttle/brake option, and here kinda same > story. with no pedals touched, it's full brake, and when throttle fully > pressed, it's 80% throttle. > I know it's an ancient wheel, but in the control panel of xp, it seems 2 be > fully functional. > I also googled, found some problems concerning FF and Thrustmaster wheels, > but nothing about my specific problem... > > Any suggestions next to buying a new wheel? > > Tia, > > Xander > > >
I have used a TM T2 since NASCAR1 was released and it is working great in all my racing sims even RBR. *knock on wood* lol --------------------------------------- Thanks, Aaron Markham *RATE MY CAR AT CARDOMAIN.COM* http://www.cardomain.com/id/amarkham *RIP AYRTON SENNA & DALE EARNHARDT* "Xander Vlasveld" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hi, > > I thought I should try the rbr demo, and I looks very interesting. > So, I looked up my ancient Thrustmaster Formula T2 wheel (analog, with > separate pedals for throttle and brake) > Removed the dust from the wheel and hooked it up to my precious gamestation > (pc). > Added and calibrated it in control panel (using xp sp2), and started upthe > Rbr demo. > And here the fun-Sunday begins (time flies). I go into the controloptions, > and whatever I try, the x-axis, is when I centre the wheel, completely 2the > right, and when I steer to the left, it's centred (would have been normal > after me driving and crashing ;)) > y-axis, I choose the combined throttle/brake option, and here kinda same > story. with no pedals touched, it's full brake, and when throttle fully > pressed, it's 80% throttle. > I know it's an ancient wheel, but in the control panel of xp, it seems 2be
Quoted text (12 lines)> fully functional. > I also googled, found some problems concerning FF and Thrustmaster wheels, > but nothing about my specific problem... > > Any suggestions next to buying a new wheel? > > Tia, > > Xander > > >
>I have used a TM T2 since NASCAR1 was released and it is working great in > all my racing sims even RBR. *knock on wood* lol > > --------------------------------------- > Thanks, > Aaron Markham Aaron, Are you playing the demo? and also xp sp2? thx, Xander
"Destroy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5Nxcd.152908$[email hidden]... >I got rid of that wheel several years ago cause of poor game compatability >problems. > > Get yourself a Logitech Momo FF, you'll thank yourself big time after a > few wonderful gravel powerslides in RBR. FF is amazing in this game!! Destroy, I don't know if i'm gonna use the wheel often, so i wanted to try with the Thrustmaster... thx, Xander
Just installed CMR 2005 demo, exactly the same problem.. so probably some winxp sp2 + thrustmaster problem... Tried to download the w2k/xp driver from thrustmaster site, but that file doesn't seem to download correctly... Will try tomorrow.. Olla, Xander
Xander Vlasveld wrote: | Just installed CMR 2005 demo, exactly the same problem.. Your wheel is not calibrated properly. Calibrate it again, and *carefully* follow the steps (including clicking buttons, not pressing "Next"). Or get DXTweak2 and adjust the values until they are right.
I have the full version of RBR. I have not installed SP2 though. I have the SP2 CD but I don't wanna update unless I have too since everything is running fine for me right now. --------------------------------------- Thanks, Aaron Markham *RATE MY CAR AT CARDOMAIN.COM* http://www.cardomain.com/id/amarkham *RIP AYRTON SENNA & DALE EARNHARDT* "Xander Vlasveld" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (16 lines)> >I have used a TM T2 since NASCAR1 was released and it is working great in > > all my racing sims even RBR. *knock on wood* lol > > > > --------------------------------------- > > Thanks, > > Aaron Markham > > Aaron, > > Are you playing the demo? and also xp sp2? > > thx, > > Xander > >
> Your wheel is not calibrated properly. Calibrate it again, and *carefully* > follow the steps (including clicking buttons, not pressing "Next"). > > Or get DXTweak2 and adjust the values until they are right. But in the control panel, the dot is in the middle, and it reacts correctly with the input from the wheel and peddals. Strange.. so perhaps sp2 is the problem... Xander
Ignore Destroy, <VBG> just like he ignoreed your post--> (Any suggestions next to buying a new wheel) Here is probably the problem, in a generalized nutshell. find the latests and greatest drivers for the wheel, or are you using XP? If so, might be tough luck there... XP doesnt seem to like the gameport as well. next thing could be dirty pots. Second, RBR likes Seperate pedals, in the readme inside RBR (full version I think), I thought that I read that the game looks for the controller and tries to uncheck the "combined" axes for pedals. So why not start with the wheels setup like the game wants it? IF yo do this, you will probably need to uninstall, delete the demo dir, then reinstall? (I dont know an easier way, but Im sure others here might iknow exactly what files to get rid of, so you dont have to delete & reinstall the demo). PS TM wheels & drivers were/are just lousy, you might have better luck & Enjoyment if you ebay them away (like Destroy said), & Ebay replace with some better wheel-pedals Xander Vlasveld enlightened us with:
Quoted text (17 lines)> "Destroy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:5Nxcd.152908$[email hidden]... >> I got rid of that wheel several years ago cause of poor game >> compatability problems. >> >> Get yourself a Logitech Momo FF, you'll thank yourself big time >> after a few wonderful gravel powerslides in RBR. FF is amazing in >> this game!! > > Destroy, > > I don't know if i'm gonna use the wheel often, so i wanted to try > with the Thrustmaster... > > thx, > > Xander
"> just like he ignoreed your post--> (Any suggestions next to buying a new
Quoted text (18 lines)> wheel) > > Here is probably the problem, in a generalized nutshell. find the latests > and greatest drivers for the wheel, or are you using XP? If so, might be > tough luck there... XP doesnt seem to like the gameport as well. next > thing could be dirty pots. > > Second, RBR likes Seperate pedals, in the readme inside RBR (full version > I think), I thought that I read that the game looks for the controller and > tries to uncheck the "combined" axes for pedals. So why not start with > the wheels setup like the game wants it? IF yo do this, you will probably > need to uninstall, delete the demo dir, then reinstall? (I dont know an > easier way, but Im sure others here might iknow exactly what files to get > rid of, so you dont have to delete & reinstall the demo). > > PS TM wheels & drivers were/are just lousy, you might have better luck & > Enjoyment if you ebay them away (like Destroy said), & Ebay replace with > some better wheel-pedals
Thanx 4 the input Plowboy, I finally downloaded the drivers 4 the thrustmaster, and now i could select a wdm driver in the joystick list. Calibrated again.. booted up rbr, and no reaction at all from the level meters in options. Tried Cmr 2005, and yes, in the options they worked perfectly.I even could "steer" my way true the menus. Started the race, and completely nothing... ahhhhhhhh.. I know that a new steering wheel probably will cure my problems.. it's just that i want to try the games a bit first ;)) And i'm a system engineer, so i love solving problems, haha... ok, gonna try some more things, will let you know how it goes. Xander
Xander, I would, if you havent already remove the demo, delete the dir it was in, or if in the game, (only have it at home) there is a button to redetect input devices? also, if you click on the controller assignments you can then change them, as the game waits for an input. At that point you might be able to figure out which "axis" is doing something funny? I personally never had this problem, I have XP SP2, but I have the MS wheel (force), so I only read the 20 or 30 posts of others having the problem, more like skimmed. Most seemed to fix using some util to fix how Direct X saw and passed the values of the inputs. search for that DXtweak & RBR, via google on this group maybe? Xander Vlasveld enlightened us with:
Quoted text (40 lines)> "> just like he ignoreed your post--> (Any suggestions next to > buying a new >> wheel) >> >> Here is probably the problem, in a generalized nutshell. find the >> latests and greatest drivers for the wheel, or are you using XP? If >> so, might be tough luck there... XP doesnt seem to like the >> gameport as well. next thing could be dirty pots. >> >> Second, RBR likes Seperate pedals, in the readme inside RBR (full >> version I think), I thought that I read that the game looks for the >> controller and tries to uncheck the "combined" axes for pedals. So >> why not start with the wheels setup like the game wants it? IF yo >> do this, you will probably need to uninstall, delete the demo dir, >> then reinstall? (I dont know an easier way, but Im sure others here >> might iknow exactly what files to get rid of, so you dont have to >> delete & reinstall the demo). PS TM wheels & drivers were/are just lousy, >> you might have better >> luck & Enjoyment if you ebay them away (like Destroy said), & Ebay >> replace with some better wheel-pedals > > > Thanx 4 the input Plowboy, > > I finally downloaded the drivers 4 the thrustmaster, and now i could > select a wdm driver in the joystick list. > Calibrated again.. booted up rbr, and no reaction at all from the > level meters in options. > Tried Cmr 2005, and yes, in the options they worked perfectly.I even > could "steer" my way true the menus. > Started the race, and completely nothing... ahhhhhhhh.. > I know that a new steering wheel probably will cure my problems.. > it's just that i want to try the games a bit first ;)) > And i'm a system engineer, so i love solving problems, haha... > > ok, > > gonna try some more things, will let you know how it goes. > > Xander
> But in the control panel, the dot is in the middle, and it reactscorrectly > with the input from the wheel and peddals. > Strange.. so perhaps sp2 is the problem... Are your pedals set for combined or dual axis? RBR's controller assigned is funky. You have to assign accelerator and brake separately for dual and assign accelerator+brake for combined. Whichever you use, you have to manually unassign the option(s) you're not using. Alan
Have u deleted the combined throttle and brake option in RBR, if not select it, then hit delete.You want throttle on its own axis and brake on its own. -- Steve H "Alan Le" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:mC2dd.15899$[email hidden]... > > But in the control panel, the dot is in the middle, and it reacts > correctly > > with the input from the wheel and peddals. > > Strange.. so perhaps sp2 is the problem... > > Are your pedals set for combined or dual axis? RBR's controller assigned is > funky. You have to assign accelerator and brake separately for dual and > assign accelerator+brake for combined. Whichever you use, you have to > manually unassign the option(s) you're not using. > > Alan > >
There are lots of controller problems with RBR, including for those of us with MOMO wheels that work perfectly in Windows and in every other sim. I am awaiting the next patch.... Marc "Xander Vlasveld" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4173a534$0$25965$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (12 lines)>> Your wheel is not calibrated properly. Calibrate it again, and >> *carefully* >> follow the steps (including clicking buttons, not pressing "Next"). >> >> Or get DXTweak2 and adjust the values until they are right. > > But in the control panel, the dot is in the middle, and it reacts > correctly with the input from the wheel and peddals. > Strange.. so perhaps sp2 is the problem... > > Xander >
What issues with your Momo Marc? I have the Momo Force and dont notice any problems other than weak effects. I do use the ECCI 6000 pedals but they are integrated into the Momo as the stock pedals are so no difference in wiring. Mitch "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:2bFdd.54350$[email hidden]... > There are lots of controller problems with RBR, including for those of us > with MOMO wheels that work perfectly in Windows and in every other sim. I > am awaiting the next patch.... > > Marc
> There are lots of controller problems with RBR, including for those of us > with MOMO wheels that work perfectly in Windows and in every other sim. I > am awaiting the next patch.... You're the first person I've seen with Momo problems in RBR. Heck the game was pretty much designed for Momos. I'd say the problem is with your system and it's highly unlikely that it's a problem with the game.
I would have to agree, I mean when you think about it, 8 of 10 people in here, works fine with whatever pedals-wheel they got. Steve Simpson enlightened us with:
Quoted text (8 lines)>> There are lots of controller problems with RBR, including for those >> of us with MOMO wheels that work perfectly in Windows and in every >> other sim. I am awaiting the next patch.... > > You're the first person I've seen with Momo problems in RBR. Heck > the game was pretty much designed for Momos. I'd say the problem is > with your system and it's highly unlikely that it's a problem with > the game.
Plowboy2 schrieb:
Quoted text (17 lines)> I would have to agree, I mean when you think about it, 8 of 10 people in > here, works fine with whatever pedals-wheel they got. > > > Steve Simpson enlightened us with: > >>>There are lots of controller problems with RBR, including for those >>>of us with MOMO wheels that work perfectly in Windows and in every >>>other sim. I am awaiting the next patch.... >> >>You're the first person I've seen with Momo problems in RBR. Heck >>the game was pretty much designed for Momos. I'd say the problem is >>with your system and it's highly unlikely that it's a problem with >>the game. > > >
FF with my new Thrustmaster Enzo FF doesn�t work right. I can not turn down the strenght. Only full or off. Michael
I have very strong effects, but 3 other problems...and no it isn't just me. Despite Logitech sponsorship, RBR doesn't work perfectly with all MOMO's. See discussions at BHMotorsports. Even the post-patch RBR seems to be in a latre beta state regarding video, sound and controller problems. Marc "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YmFdd.16721$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (17 lines)> What issues with your Momo Marc? I have the Momo Force and dont notice > any problems other than weak effects. I do use the ECCI 6000 pedals but > they are integrated into the Momo as the stock pedals are so no difference > in wiring. > > Mitch > > > "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:2bFdd.54350$[email hidden]... >> There are lots of controller problems with RBR, including for those of us >> with MOMO wheels that work perfectly in Windows and in every other sim. >> I am awaiting the next patch.... >> >> Marc > >
I'm not the first person with these problems. If it is my wheel or configuration, how do we explain that my MOMO works flawlessly (with no fiddling) in GTR, GPL, NR2003, NT2004, F1C and about 15 other lesser titles? Marc "Steve Simpson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)>> There are lots of controller problems with RBR, including for those of us >> with MOMO wheels that work perfectly in Windows and in every other sim. >> I am awaiting the next patch.... > > You're the first person I've seen with Momo problems in RBR. Heck the > game was pretty much designed for Momos. I'd say the problem is with your > system and it's highly unlikely that it's a problem with the game. >
I didnt mean to insinuate the problem was only with your Momo. Another patch is on the way soon. Hopefully this will help you out. Mitch "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bhPfd.11347$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (28 lines)>I have very strong effects, but 3 other problems...and no it isn't just me. >Despite Logitech sponsorship, RBR doesn't work perfectly with all MOMO's. >See discussions at BHMotorsports. Even the post-patch RBR seems to be in a >latre beta state regarding video, sound and controller problems. > > Marc > > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:YmFdd.16721$[email hidden]... >> What issues with your Momo Marc? I have the Momo Force and dont notice >> any problems other than weak effects. I do use the ECCI 6000 pedals but >> they are integrated into the Momo as the stock pedals are so no >> difference in wiring. >> >> Mitch >> >> >> "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:2bFdd.54350$[email hidden]... >>> There are lots of controller problems with RBR, including for those of >>> us with MOMO wheels that work perfectly in Windows and in every other >>> sim. I am awaiting the next patch.... >>> >>> Marc >> >> > >
It did completely solve the problems. Marc "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:I%Pfd.12159$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (39 lines)>I didnt mean to insinuate the problem was only with your Momo. Another >patch is on the way soon. Hopefully this will help you out. > > Mitch > > > "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:bhPfd.11347$[email hidden]... >>I have very strong effects, but 3 other problems...and no it isn't just >>me. Despite Logitech sponsorship, RBR doesn't work perfectly with all >>MOMO's. See discussions at BHMotorsports. Even the post-patch RBR seems >>to be in a latre beta state regarding video, sound and controller >>problems. >> >> Marc >> >> "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:YmFdd.16721$[email hidden]... >>> What issues with your Momo Marc? I have the Momo Force and dont notice >>> any problems other than weak effects. I do use the ECCI 6000 pedals but >>> they are integrated into the Momo as the stock pedals are so no >>> difference in wiring. >>> >>> Mitch >>> >>> >>> "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>> news:2bFdd.54350$[email hidden]... >>>> There are lots of controller problems with RBR, including for those of >>>> us with MOMO wheels that work perfectly in Windows and in every other >>>> sim. I am awaiting the next patch.... >>>> >>>> Marc >>> >>> >> >> > >
No need to answer as the 1.02 patch eliminated the problems. Marc "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1jPfd.11348$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (19 lines)> I'm not the first person with these problems. If it is my wheel or > configuration, how do we explain that my MOMO works flawlessly (with no > fiddling) in GTR, GPL, NR2003, NT2004, F1C and about 15 other lesser > titles? > > Marc > > "Steve Simpson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >>> There are lots of controller problems with RBR, including for those of >>> us with MOMO wheels that work perfectly in Windows and in every other >>> sim. I am awaiting the next patch.... >> >> You're the first person I've seen with Momo problems in RBR. Heck the >> game was pretty much designed for Momos. I'd say the problem is with >> your system and it's highly unlikely that it's a problem with the game. >> > >

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