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Thrustmaster T1 Steering Wheel

2 posts by 2 people · 22 Mar 1995 (approx.) - 01 Apr 1995

Daniel Ts 22 Mar 1995 (approx.)#300487
I'm looking to buy a thrustmaster formula T1 steering wheel. I would be interested in comments from players using this device. How much better is the control with the wheel compared with a standard joystick? does it come with pedals / gear stick? Will other thrustmaster products (eg. weapons control Mk 2) enhance the playability of auto simulators? How well does it work with indy car racing & Microprose F1GP? Anyone know of any good and reliable mail order places in the states to buy this from? (and possibly contactable via internet?) please e-mail any comments. daniel.
>I'm looking to buy a thrustmaster formula T1 steering wheel. I would be >interested in comments from players using this device. >How much better is the control with the wheel compared with a standard >joystick? Like night and day. And I have a pretty good joystick (Wingman Extreme). Yes. (Both.) By the time you use the controls on the T1, there's not much else left to remap. I don't have F1GP/WC, but I race IndyCar IICC and ICRS95, and it works VERY well. The feel of the wheel is good, and the pedals are adequate. I personally don't care for the shift lever, though. I bought mine from Chips & Bits in Vermont. 1-800-753-GAME, I think. I have no association with Thrustmaster. I have used most of the avaialble wheels and other control devices with IndyCar and NASCAR, including the T1 and what seems to be its primary competitor, the Simulation Systems ACP. I have found the T1 to be the most useful of all these devices. It has a good, accurate wheel, and the control is very good. It permits left- or right-foot braking. The drawbacks are that the shift lever isn't for everyone, and - in particular - the pedal springs are prone to breakage under heavy use. Thrustmaster is very good about replacing them, but this is a pain nonetheless. The T1 wheel unit drapes over the edge of your comptuer table/desk, and needs something to secure it. This also is a pain, but at least it's not hard to do. The ACP is a rather different beast. It is a free-standing unit that has a wheel and pedals below. There is NO option: you must use left-foot braking. (Why not? Because the brake pedal is 28" from the accelerator.) The ACP has gear shift buttons actually on the back of the wheel, which is AWESOME for road courses where manual shift and great control is mandatory. Unfortunately, the ACP has its drawbacks too. The first one for me is the left-foot braking, which I just don't grok for some reason. Second, I'm kind of weird-shaped; I have VERY short legs for my height (or, alterntaively you could say that I have a very tall torso and arms for my legs...), and the fixed relationship between the pedals and wheel does not suit me very well. (Others have used my unit and it is obvious that it fits them much better than it fits me.) My wife reminds me incessantly that the ACP takes up a LOT of floor space, too. My preference is for the T1. My ICR teammate tells me very good things about a wheel called the Thomas wheel, but I haven't seen one yet. I can also say that for me both the T1 and the ACP blew away the various other options I tried, including a couple of yokes, my joystick, and of course the keybaord. If anyone's interested, my ACP is for sale. It's nearly new - it just doesn't suit my shape and right-footed braking. I'm asking $115 + postage for it ($155 at Chips and Bits). I do wish Thrustmaster would come up with a solution for the springs. I've done qhite a lot of work on mine and still no solution. (Yes, I've limited the travel - in fact, I've limited it more than the new design pedals do, and I have still broken springs.) -- Brian Wong Product Marketing Engineering

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