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How do you set the camber on the rear wheels? I notice that it doesn't let you on the camber screen, but the NCSETUP utility prints it out. Can I assume that these are hard coded numbers, and like normal cars the camber is seldom if ever modified on the rear?

You never need to, I believe. If you check your tire temps, they'll always be about equal across the rear tires. That's prpbably a concession by the game designers since they did not give us the ability to change rear camber. Cheers, John -- John C. McCanless Department of Electrical Engineering University of ***ia

>Subject: Camber question >Date: 23 Jan 1995 13:42:34 GMT >How do you set the camber on the rear wheels? I notice that it doesn't >let you on the camber screen, but the NCSETUP utility prints it out. >Can I assume that these are hard coded numbers, and like normal >cars the camber is seldom if ever modified on the rear? The cars run a straight axel. You cannot change the setting even on the real cars from what I understand. They explain it in the setup part of the manual. Rich

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>>How do you set the camber on the rear wheels? I notice that it doesn't >>let you on the camber screen, but the NCSETUP utility prints it out. >>Can I assume that these are hard coded numbers, and like normal >>cars the camber is seldom if ever modified on the rear? >You never need to, I believe. If you check your tire temps, they'll >always be about equal across the rear tires. That's prpbably a >concession by the game designers since they did not give us the >ability to change rear camber.

Well, another reason for this is that you cannot LEGALLY change the camber on the rear of a Winston Cup car. First off, to change the camber on the rear-end, you have to bend the axle (it's a solid axle). A couple of years ago, someone came up with the idea to do this, giving the cars more rear-end traction. The result? A lot of broken axles. After three or four races, NASCAR mandated no more cambered rear-ends. Pat ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Pat Campbell Go #6, #94 Huntsville, AL War Eagle!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

: >How do you set the camber on the rear wheels? I notice that it doesn't : >let you on the camber screen, but the NCSETUP utility prints it out. : >Can I assume that these are hard coded numbers, and like normal : >cars the camber is seldom if ever modified on the rear? : > : You never need to, I believe. If you check your tire temps, they'll : always be about equal across the rear tires. That's prpbably a : concession by the game designers since they did not give us the : ability to change rear camber. In Nascar they use a solid rear axle, so realy the only way to change the camber is to bend the axle, and if that happens your fubar anyway. The rear camber settings are fixed in Nascar, You only need to set the rear camber in a car with an independent rear suspension, such as Indy, or F1 -- ============================================================================ | | | '56 Ford F100 --> '78 Cutlass Salon --> '86 Mustang GT | | "thgir peek ciffart rewols" | | | ============================================================================

:stuff deleted In Nascar I have heard of the teams using positive camber in the rear of the car to get traction. This can only be done by adding and taking away stagger from either tire because of the solid rear axle. I also remeber from a an announcer on TNN that there is about .5 deg for ever 1 inch of stagger, or something like that... Matt

Thanks to all who've offered info. on car setup... On another note though, I have now got my B-inlaw hooked on the game, but his machine is running dog slow. He has a 486/DLC 33 w/ Cirrux chips/ 1 meg Diamond Star video card/ 8 Meg ram/ no cache/ no sound/ & no VLB's (all ISA's). He will boot w/ a clean autoexec (holding down left shift button) and turn most if not all detail off (really sucks too) and still the game is choppy. Further, we've tried hooking up via modem & as you would expect, even w/ 5 opponents on the track his machine is out to lunch. Any ideas? Is he hosed because of his machine? Is it the lack of VESA buses? I mention the VLB because I have a 486/33 w/ VLB's and I have no problem w/ speed... Unfortunately, I have to turn to this newsgroup since Papyrus doesn't respond to Email...go figure considering Email is highly recommened in the manual. Thanx, Tim

Well, to answer your question, I'll tell you what I have.... 486/dx33 w/ an Oak Tech. video card (1mb), 4Mb RAM, and an SBPro, I can run all details on at 15 frames/second with 33 cars enabled - without it slowing down. I don't know what is wrong, but I do know that if anything, my system should be slower than that one. I also don't know exactly what holding down that key does (Yes, I STILL have DOS 5), but if it disables everything, you are missing your HIMEM and EMM programs... --Mark

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>On another note though, I have now got my B-inlaw hooked on the game, >but his machine is running dog slow. He has a 486/DLC 33 w/ Cirrux >chips/ 1 meg Diamond Star video card/ 8 Meg ram/ no cache/ no sound/ & >no VLB's (all ISA's). He will boot w/ a clean autoexec (holding down >left shift button) and turn most if not all detail off (really sucks >too) and still the game is choppy. Further, we've tried hooking up via >modem & as you would expect, even w/ 5 opponents on the track his >machine is out to lunch.

Running without Autoexec and config.sys is good, since ICR doesn't need himem or emm- anything. I have a hunch your machine may be running it's CPU at 8mHz or its caches may be disabled - check that BIOS! This stuff won't be as obvious in Windoze as it is in IOCR, so you may even speed up some stuff you always thought was slow by design ;-)