NASCAR Racing Accessories

I was wondering if anyone happens to have the steering wheel, gear shifting accessory to enhance their simulation. I've seen this thing in many catalogs, but I don't quite have the money at the time, and I'm satisfied with the joy stick. I may be able to justify buying it if someone says that it's great for the simulation. Any comments? Randy Kennedy.

There is a version of the Thrustmaster T1 wheel/peddle assembly specifically designed for Papyrus NASCAR racing - called the BB1 (Billy_Bob_1). It is just like the T1, except the wheel has one of those "suicide knobs" on it and there is a beverage attachment suitable for a beer can, including tall boys. Joe "Bob" Murphy Driver and Pit Crew Wild Weasel Racing Disclaimer: I think Papyrus NASCAR Racing is the best racing sim on the PC, and a Thrustmaster T1 owner which a great addition to any racing game. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-= Computer Networking Specialist National Institutes of Health Distributed Systems Branch Bldg. 12A Room 3039 Bethesda, MD. USA 20892 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-= "The bubble gum card doesn't lie" - Chris Sabo

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>Subject: NASCAR Racing Accessories >Date: 8 Dec 1994 16:53:35 GMT >Summary: NASCAR Racing Accessories >I was wondering if anyone happens to have the steering wheel, gear shifting >accessory to enhance their simulation. I've seen this thing in many catalogs, >but I don't quite have the money at the time, and I'm satisfied with the joy >stick. I may be able to justify buying it if someone says that it's great for >the simulation. >Any comments? >Randy Kennedy.

I have the Thrustmaster T1 steering wheel / pedal combination and I wouldn't race without it! If you are a true fan of the various racing sims, ie IndyCar, WC, or NASCAR, you *MUST* get one! the Chips & Bits mail order house sells them for around $109 plus S&H. I paid $129 for mine when they first came out and haven't ever regretted it. Also, Thrustmaster has the best customer service in any business that I have ever seen or heard of. Several people, including myself, need replacement parts, and simply sent them e-mail and they had parts in the mail at no charge to me, the next day. One guy on the Papyrus BBS even had his pedal springs break when in heated competition for the championship and when he told Thrustmaster this, they Fed-Ex'd the parts to him via OverNight delivery at no charge! +=================================================================+ | Robert Berryhill - Scarecrow from Wizard of Oz| | Plano, Tx or was that Congress? | +=================================================================+

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>>Subject: NASCAR Racing Accessories >>Date: 8 Dec 1994 16:53:35 GMT >>Summary: NASCAR Racing Accessories >>I was wondering if anyone happens to have the steering wheel, gear shifting >>accessory to enhance their simulation. I've seen this thing in many catalogs, >>but I don't quite have the money at the time, and I'm satisfied with the joy >>stick. I may be able to justify buying it if someone says that it's great for >>the simulation. >>Any comments? >>Randy Kennedy. >I have the Thrustmaster T1 steering wheel / pedal combination and I wouldn't >race without it! If you are a true fan of the various racing sims, ie >IndyCar, WC, or NASCAR, you *MUST* get one! the Chips & Bits mail order house >sells them for around $109 plus S&H. I paid $129 for mine when they first >came out and haven't ever regretted it. Also, Thrustmaster has the best >customer service in any business that I have ever seen or heard of.

I agree. If you are at all serious about driving sims, and face it, you're reading this newsgroup so you are, I fully recommend the Formula T1 steering wheel combo. Here in Australia they cost $295.00 which really hurt to pay out, but in 6 months, I haven't regretted it for a moment. BTW, I also have a simulation ***pit that I made for under $50.00 that makes it the most realistic sim I have ever used. You actually sit inside the***pit and drive. Oh well, lucky I am the only person in a 3 bedroom house, otherwise I'd have run out of room. Pete

Thanks for the information. By the way, since I'm not familiar with these wheel/pedal accessories, I don't feel silly in asking. Does the Thrustmaster plug into the joystick port, or does it have its separate card to plug into? Randy Kennedy University of Louisville Scientific Speed School Louisville, Kentucky Dept of Mathematics and Computer Science

It plugs into the joystick port -- it must be a port that supports 2 joysticks. I just use the port that comes on my sound card and it works great. +=================================================================+ | Robert Berryhill - Scarecrow from Wizard of Oz| | Plano, Tx or was that Congress? | +=================================================================+

My T1 came with an adapter that lets it use only one port. Steering using X axis and each pedal uses a direction on the Y axis. Works great! -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Raleigh, NC | Exit the Gates of Hell - run Linux! | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+

>>It plugs into the joystick port -- it must be a port that supports 2 >>joysticks. I just use the port that comes on my sound card and it works great. >My T1 came with an adapter that lets it use only one port. Steering using >X axis and each pedal uses a direction on the Y axis. Works great! It actually uses only one "port", but uses both joystick inputs, x-axis of both, one for steering, and the other for brake/gas. That's why the single "port" must support 2 joysticks. This is usually not a problem as most do, but some of the cheaper cards will only allow one joystick. +=================================================================+ | Robert Berryhill - Scarecrow from Wizard of Oz| | Plano, Tx or was that Congress? | +=================================================================+

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>Berryhill) writes... >>It plugs into the joystick port -- it must be a port that supports 2 >>joysticks. I just use the port that comes on my sound card and it works great. >OK... I think I'll be getting at T1 soon, so let me get this straight... >I DON'T need a TWO ports, just a port that supports two joysticks? I >currently use a thrustmaster-Pro joystick. As far as I can tell, the throttle >on the joystick is part of "joystick 2", so I guess I'm all set. Is that >right? (My joystick port is in a Soundblaster-16-Pro) >Thanks, >Steve

Yes, that is exactly correct, and your SB16 will work. +=================================================================+ | Robert Berryhill - Scarecrow from Wizard of Oz| | Plano, Tx or was that Congress? | +=================================================================+

>It plugs into the joystick port -- it must be a port that supports 2 >joysticks. I just use the port that comes on my sound card and it works great. OK... I think I'll be getting at T1 soon, so let me get this straight... I DON'T need a TWO ports, just a port that supports two joysticks? I currently use a thrustmaster-Pro joystick. As far as I can tell, the throttle on the joystick is part of "joystick 2", so I guess I'm all set. Is that right? (My joystick port is in a Soundblaster-16-Pro) Thanks, Steve ***************************************************************************** *****************************************************************************

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>>>It plugs into the joystick port -- it must be a port that supports 2 >>>joysticks. I just use the port that comes on my sound card and it works great. >>My T1 came with an adapter that lets it use only one port. Steering using >>X axis and each pedal uses a direction on the Y axis. Works great! >It actually uses only one "port", but uses both joystick inputs, x-axis of >both, one for steering, and the other for brake/gas. That's why the single >"port" must support 2 joysticks. This is usually not a problem as most do, >but some of the cheaper cards will only allow one joystick.

Let me reiterate. My T1 came with an adapter that lets it use only one port. Steering uses the X axis and each pedal uses a direction on the Y axis. My controller only supports 1 port. When I go to the calibration menu in NASCAR I only calibrate Port 1. The adapter is specifically made to support one joystick port (2 axis, 2 buttons) Perhaps the older T1's did not come with this adapter? -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Raleigh, NC | Exit the Gates of Hell - run Linux! | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+

Berryhill) writes: (Robert >>Berryhill) writes... >>>It plugs into the joystick port -- it must be a port that supports 2 >>>joysticks. I just use the port that comes on my sound card and it works great. >>OK... I think I'll be getting at T1 soon, so let me get this straight... >>I DON'T need a TWO ports, just a port that supports two joysticks? I >>currently use a thrustmaster-Pro joystick. As far as I can tell, the throttle >>on the joystick is part of "joystick 2", so I guess I'm all set. Is that >>right? (My joystick port is in a Soundblaster-16-Pro) >>Thanks, >>Steve >Yes, that is exactly correct, and your SB16 will work. Would anyone know if a joystick port on a Pro Audio Spectrum 16 supports 2 joysticks, and in turn would support a T1? ------------------------------------------------------------- " Religion is the opiate of the Masses", Karl Marx All beware of the GLoorrriiiooosss Revolution. -------------------------------------------------------------

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>>It actually uses only one "port", but uses both joystick inputs, x-axis of >>both, one for steering, and the other for brake/gas. That's why the single >>"port" must support 2 joysticks. This is usually not a problem as most do, >>but some of the cheaper cards will only allow one joystick. >Let me reiterate. My T1 came with an adapter that lets it use only one port. >Steering uses the X axis and each pedal uses a direction on the Y axis. >My controller only supports 1 port. When I go to the calibration menu in >NASCAR I only calibrate Port 1. The adapter is specifically made to support >one joystick port (2 axis, 2 buttons) >Perhaps the older T1's did not come with this adapter?

That's cool! And no, mine did not come with this adapter so I assume all of the originals didn't. Does that mean that you can only use either the buttons or the "stick" shift? It's nice to see that they added this. Thrustmaster just keeps getting better and better in my book. Everyone I know has had excellent response from them. I have a 2 year old Mark I Joystick that isn't working and they even said that if I mailed it to them they would fix it and send it back -- at no cost to me! Sorry for the misunderstanding at first. And thanks for not flaming me right off the bat! +=================================================================+ | Robert Berryhill - Scarecrow from Wizard of Oz| | Plano, Tx or was that Congress? | +=================================================================+

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>Berryhill) writes: > Would anyone know if a joystick port on a Pro Audio Spectrum 16 >supports 2 joysticks, and in turn would support a T1? >------------------------------------------------------------- >" Religion is the opiate of the Masses", Karl Marx >All beware of the GLoorrriiiooosss Revolution. >-------------------------------------------------------------

I think that all of the sound cards support 2 joysticks, but according to Bob Hruska the new T1s come with an adapter that will allow them to work with a "single" joystick port, so I guess it doesn't really matter after all. +=================================================================+ | Robert Berryhill - Scarecrow from Wizard of Oz| | Plano, Tx or was that Congress? | +=================================================================+

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>>My controller only supports 1 port. When I go to the calibration menu in >>NASCAR I only calibrate Port 1. The adapter is specifically made to support >>one joystick port (2 axis, 2 buttons) >>Perhaps the older T1's did not come with this adapter? >That's cool! And no, mine did not come with this adapter so I assume all of the originals didn't. >Does that mean that you can only use either the buttons or the "stick" shift?

Unfortunately, it disables the buttons on the console. The shifter uses buttons 1 and 2. But it's still better than ripping out my cheap IO card and buying one that allows me to turn of the game port so I can use my SB16 ports. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Raleigh, NC | Exit the Gates of Hell - run Linux! | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+

I'm trying to figure out if the Thrustmaster has sterring wheel mounted shift buttons? You mentioned console buttons...are they on the wheel (the shifter seems like such antiquated technology) Thanks, Wammo

>I'm trying to figure out if the Thrustmaster has sterring wheel mounted >shift buttons? You mentioned console buttons...are they on the wheel (the >shifter seems like such antiquated technology) There are two console buttons, they are *not* on the wheel. You could use them for up/down shift but I don't. There is also a small shifter lever slightly to the right of the wheel, in about the same place as you'd find one in an IndyCar. -- Brian Wong Product Marketing Engineering 415-336-0082 Palo Alto, CA 94303

: There are two console buttons, they are *not* on the wheel. You could use : them for up/down shift but I don't. There is also a small shifter lever : slightly to the right of the wheel, in about the same place as you'd find : one in an IndyCar. : Brian Wong Product Marketing Engineering That is unless you have an IndyCar with electronic pushbutton shifting ;). Darrel ------------------------------------------------------------------------- __&__ | Darrel Cherry / \ | San Jose State Math/Computer Science C ,---_) ------------------------------------------------------ | |,___| "I am Homer of Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance | \__/ is futile. Preparation is futi...MMMmmm...doughnut!" /_____\ /_____/ \ -------------------------------------------------------------------------